I gave up about 14 minutes in because it was just a bunch of yapping about stuff we already know about and for which nobody involved has really faced consequences for. Maybe it ended with some plan to actually do something about it, but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it.
Did Ivan say anything of consequence that we didn't already know?
Do you think that the restoration of America hinges on anons? Or is the broader population of the People of America? Are such retweets important because they teach us something? or because it reaches people who don't know this stuff?
6.5 million views. Have you or I or anyone here been able to share what WE know with 6.5 million other humans? If not, then why is the "we already know all this" argument relevant?
Honestly, I think the system is so corrupt at this point unless the military steps in it cannot get fixed by any external force unless it is willing and capable of unleashing massive violence. I think you'd also be surprised if I were to hazard a guess where that violence would be most effective, but obviously I am not suggesting any violence occur.
As far as 6.5 million people seeing this view I count in that number and I highly suspect most of the people that saw this had considerable knowledge already. I don't expect most of the ones that didn't already know this are going to suddenly believe because of some guy they've probably never heard is saying.
As far as reach, Joe Rogan and Tucker reach 10x that view count on certain topics.
"Hey, trump got elected in 2016!!! How come the swamp wasn't drained by 2018? or 2019? or 2020?"
3 stages:
Stage #1 : "The Sting": Trump Administration No. 1, laying the foundation, laying the traps, preparation phase
Stage #2 : "Disclosure and Exposure": Devolution Phase aka "sort of" Administration #2: Building the public mandate via awakening, exposing the reality of the Deep State and Swamp, red-pilling America
Stage #3 : "Justice And Execution": Trump Administration No. 2, implementation of justice, cleaning the swamp, reestablishment of rule of Law, restoring the republic
I asked how you measure "normies waking up". If you can't measure that you have no way of knowing if you're actually waking them up and have no way to know when you've awoken enough. I suggested election results as a metric, since if you can't get them to change how they vote or show up to vote you either haven't really awoken them or that it doesn't matter that you have if they don't do anything.
So, instead of suggesting I don't see, perhaps you could HELP me by answering my question how we measure normie awakening.
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
Let me ask the question that remains.
Why are you here?
Why are you on a board that is dedicated to figuring this out and Helping?
You're sitting in your chair, naysaying, clearly not doing anything yourself - waiting for someone else to ride in on a horse and save You.
Meanwhile - you're speaking that you have decided that Nothing is going to happen because it didn't fit into your expectations of timeline and method.
So I will ask you again - why are you here?
Just wait somewhere else if this is what you're going to take the time to post.
But here's one other option - Be Honest.
Ask the Honest question that you have - Express that you have Doubt - but ask for information that is Seeking.
At that point - your posture will have changed from sitting in your chair and spending effort typing doomsaying messages, to someone who is Honest about their doubt - BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
You're not doing anything about it.
This is a "tough love" message from me - And you need that.
You're here. Notice the posture of people here around you. Seeking. Not Consuming. Not finger pointing like all the normies.
I appreciate your question, and your challenge, and it made me think for a bit.
I'm here because most days there are at least a few posts that have meaningful information that I may not have found elsewhere.
But I'm also here because I enjoy frens, like minded individuals that share my basic values and hopes for the restoration of the Republic. And for their wisdom and the connections between events and individuals that either I don't know about or wouldn't have made on my own.
Have I been able to share much? Not as much as I would have liked, as I've only created a few topics that seemed important or of interest. I've been able to confirm a few posts from others and question far more as likely false. But mostly I exist in the domain of what I hope is healthy skepticism, but I fear that gets labeled dooming and perhaps isn't at all helpful, so maybe I should follow grandma's advice and if I don't have something nice to say (positive to ad), just don't say anything. My hope is that my 6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful.
RE: "...6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful."
Are you here to collect updoots?
I've seen posts that say only "Kek" or "LOL" or "agreed" have 50+ "updoots".
Updoots don't always mean what you think they imply - so they are Not a badge of bragging rights worthwhile of polishing.
RE: "here for the frens and shared values and hopes" - great.
We all need that and that isn't the reason why I took the time to write to you.
RE: grandma's advice - nothing positive to add, don't say anything?
That sounds like missing the point and retreating.
Hole-pokers are wonderful to have here. We need those. You could even say that is the central spirit of this place - diggers and truth seekers.
To do that job, one inherently will be NOT having positive things to add when they poke holes. And that activity shouldn't be a problem here - it should be encouraged when we're trying to solve problems together.
However - as I keep referring to it - because it is the Frame of Mind statement that I read from you that made me stop and write to begin with...
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
This is a frame of mind statement. It is a state of hope statement. It is a Discouraging statement.
And although our job is to poke holes we need to be DILLIGENT to PROTECT our hope here. To PROTECT our motivation here. To PROTECT our frame of mind here.
And what - "but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it." - says is - There is no hope. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing is going on. And so forth.
That is the total fulfillment of "dooming" - NOT "healthy skepticism".
Would you ever say that to a crew of soldiers fighting for their lives, stranded in the middle of the jungle and surrounded?
This is what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't see it and that is why you don't understand what I'm trying to get you to see - and that's okay. That is Why we are here as a Team, so we can help each other see - strengthen each other in this fight - and continue our mission - together.
I gave up about 14 minutes in because it was just a bunch of yapping about stuff we already know about and for which nobody involved has really faced consequences for. Maybe it ended with some plan to actually do something about it, but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it.
Found the smooth brain.
Ive had him pegged as a shill for awhile now.
That would generally be people that engage with insults instead of rebutting points. I basically asserted two things:
Should be easy enough for you to tell me what that is and why it makes any difference.
Nothing of consequence has happened to any of the people he mentioned, so it should be easy for you to tell me what plan there is to change that.
Bro - you say this - but you take no accountability for yourself.
"It Should be Easy To....._____"
You've said that enough times to other people.
Why don't you say that to yourself?
"It Should be Easy To....WATCH A 19 minute video!"
Right?
How much time have you spent typing this, reading responses and typing your previous post? I bet we've crossed the 19 minute threshold.
You are not in the fight.
Get in the fight.
Watch the video.
Then come back and ask questions about things you don't understand - I personally would be happy to help you understand what you TRIED to and did not.
But you didn't even start with your own effort before you started yelling at other people about theirs.
Get in the fight!
Disclaimer: I haven't watched the video
Do you think that the restoration of America hinges on anons? Or is the broader population of the People of America? Are such retweets important because they teach us something? or because it reaches people who don't know this stuff?
6.5 million views. Have you or I or anyone here been able to share what WE know with 6.5 million other humans? If not, then why is the "we already know all this" argument relevant?
asking for a fren....
Honestly, I think the system is so corrupt at this point unless the military steps in it cannot get fixed by any external force unless it is willing and capable of unleashing massive violence. I think you'd also be surprised if I were to hazard a guess where that violence would be most effective, but obviously I am not suggesting any violence occur.
As far as 6.5 million people seeing this view I count in that number and I highly suspect most of the people that saw this had considerable knowledge already. I don't expect most of the ones that didn't already know this are going to suddenly believe because of some guy they've probably never heard is saying.
As far as reach, Joe Rogan and Tucker reach 10x that view count on certain topics.
Dude's a former Green Beret and Lt. Col. He's a pretty big hitter. Remember, this show isn't for us, it's for the normies.
We had to wait for more normies to wake up. Timing is everything.
I mean, lol, yeah.
"Hey, trump got elected in 2016!!! How come the swamp wasn't drained by 2018? or 2019? or 2020?"
3 stages:
Stage #1 : "The Sting": Trump Administration No. 1, laying the foundation, laying the traps, preparation phase
Stage #2 : "Disclosure and Exposure": Devolution Phase aka "sort of" Administration #2: Building the public mandate via awakening, exposing the reality of the Deep State and Swamp, red-pilling America
Stage #3 : "Justice And Execution": Trump Administration No. 2, implementation of justice, cleaning the swamp, reestablishment of rule of Law, restoring the republic
Please explain that to Aaron Rogers, he's in that pool of thought that it could have been done in a couple of years.
yes. he's pretty redpilled but not on this
Yep, Aaron needs to dig a little deeper.
I still don't see a metric for how we track this until perhaps election day, but I don't trust the elections are clean.
Of course, you don't see.
Who's talking about elections in this thread?
I asked how you measure "normies waking up". If you can't measure that you have no way of knowing if you're actually waking them up and have no way to know when you've awoken enough. I suggested election results as a metric, since if you can't get them to change how they vote or show up to vote you either haven't really awoken them or that it doesn't matter that you have if they don't do anything.
So, instead of suggesting I don't see, perhaps you could HELP me by answering my question how we measure normie awakening.
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
Let me ask the question that remains.
Why are you here?
Why are you on a board that is dedicated to figuring this out and Helping?
You're sitting in your chair, naysaying, clearly not doing anything yourself - waiting for someone else to ride in on a horse and save You.
Meanwhile - you're speaking that you have decided that Nothing is going to happen because it didn't fit into your expectations of timeline and method.
So I will ask you again - why are you here?
Just wait somewhere else if this is what you're going to take the time to post.
But here's one other option - Be Honest.
Ask the Honest question that you have - Express that you have Doubt - but ask for information that is Seeking.
At that point - your posture will have changed from sitting in your chair and spending effort typing doomsaying messages, to someone who is Honest about their doubt - BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
You're not doing anything about it.
This is a "tough love" message from me - And you need that.
You're here. Notice the posture of people here around you. Seeking. Not Consuming. Not finger pointing like all the normies.
Get in the fight!
I appreciate your question, and your challenge, and it made me think for a bit.
I'm here because most days there are at least a few posts that have meaningful information that I may not have found elsewhere.
But I'm also here because I enjoy frens, like minded individuals that share my basic values and hopes for the restoration of the Republic. And for their wisdom and the connections between events and individuals that either I don't know about or wouldn't have made on my own.
Have I been able to share much? Not as much as I would have liked, as I've only created a few topics that seemed important or of interest. I've been able to confirm a few posts from others and question far more as likely false. But mostly I exist in the domain of what I hope is healthy skepticism, but I fear that gets labeled dooming and perhaps isn't at all helpful, so maybe I should follow grandma's advice and if I don't have something nice to say (positive to ad), just don't say anything. My hope is that my 6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful.
"But mostly I exist in the domain of what I hope is healthy skepticism"
Is this healthy skepticism?
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
RE: "...6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful."
Are you here to collect updoots?
I've seen posts that say only "Kek" or "LOL" or "agreed" have 50+ "updoots".
Updoots don't always mean what you think they imply - so they are Not a badge of bragging rights worthwhile of polishing.
RE: "here for the frens and shared values and hopes" - great.
We all need that and that isn't the reason why I took the time to write to you.
RE: grandma's advice - nothing positive to add, don't say anything?
That sounds like missing the point and retreating.
Hole-pokers are wonderful to have here. We need those. You could even say that is the central spirit of this place - diggers and truth seekers.
To do that job, one inherently will be NOT having positive things to add when they poke holes. And that activity shouldn't be a problem here - it should be encouraged when we're trying to solve problems together.
However - as I keep referring to it - because it is the Frame of Mind statement that I read from you that made me stop and write to begin with...
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
This is a frame of mind statement. It is a state of hope statement. It is a Discouraging statement.
And although our job is to poke holes we need to be DILLIGENT to PROTECT our hope here. To PROTECT our motivation here. To PROTECT our frame of mind here.
And what - "but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it." - says is - There is no hope. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing is going on. And so forth.
That is the total fulfillment of "dooming" - NOT "healthy skepticism".
Would you ever say that to a crew of soldiers fighting for their lives, stranded in the middle of the jungle and surrounded?
This is what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't see it and that is why you don't understand what I'm trying to get you to see - and that's okay. That is Why we are here as a Team, so we can help each other see - strengthen each other in this fight - and continue our mission - together.
all of the above. i need this place for my mental health as part of my spiritual life.
u/#banhammer