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The REAL WORLD political spectrum is a circle, not a line, with both Communism (left) path and Fascism (right) path converging at the same “zero individual rights” Totalitarianism point. (media.greatawakening.win) 🤡 MSM Conspiracy Theory 🤡
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– TrumpTrollMaster 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Fascism is a socialist movement. Stop with this horseshit and stop selling what the leftists are selling you. It's not a right wing movement at all.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Your main point is correct. Right/Left politics is a totally fake construct created for socialist (centralized) control.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That is the whole point of the post. It is called “Fascism” or “Communism” but is really the same thing. Traditionally, fascism is “centralized corporate control” of economy assumed to be “rightwing” and communism is “centralized gov’t control” of economy assumed to be “leftwing”. They are both really attempts at centralized control by different means.


We are currently in a very odd “breakdown” resulting in Fasco-Communism where they have merged and international corporations appear to control the US gov’t which then controls domestic corporations.


It is represented as a straight line to Totalitarianism right down the center of the circle from the top point of the circle which would be “decentralized control” of both economy and gov’t. In that case it collapses back down to a line spectrum, but it is important to understand its components, imo.

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– Sadness 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I agree with most of this analysis, For example, I don't ascribe 'right' or 'left; to the two ideas, because I believe it is artificial, and joined at the hip, as suggested.

Yes, fascism is corporate control of government (Most of the West), and communism is state control of, oh, everything, if they can (LOL Marxists, Trotskyites, and traditional Maoists).

But, I believe the whole paradigm is being smashed by the issue of genocide, and the return of religious values, i.e. ethical morals to politics (Russia, Hungary - note that these are ex-Soviet, so supposedly communist - but then I have a theory about that too - for another discussion).

e.g. Huge anti-war rally in NATO member’s capital (VIDEOS). https://www.rt.com/news/598644-budapest-peace-march-nato/

So, IMO that's a human/anti-human dialectic that is smashing the paradigm.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Moar paradigm smash, please.

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– Sadness 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

OK since you asked, re. paradigm smashing:

One of the Early Soviet doctirnes was to eliminate religion altogether. The idea was that the state would replace it with science, technology, higher education, and use any moral fervor to make people more patriotic for the communist ideal. This back-fired, because people did not want to give up their precious (gold-leaf embossed) icons, customs, and of course there were clandestine meetings with similarly-minded folks - i.e. their neighbours and relations.

Anyway with the fall of the Soviets, there were several countries that reclaimed their religion, because it was deemed necessary. And guess what? It was very popular. So, even as Westerners were flooding their countries with Big Macs and Jeans, and rainbow dildoes, in a chaotic world of collapse, people realized they needed a compass. And this is at the core of my argument. It means the leaders now openly say that they are Religious. They reject anything that is anti-human that they see coming from the West. And they have good reason to be suspicous of the West, since hundreds of years, at the cost of millions of lives. For example, Larry Johnson mentioned very recently, that St Petersburg, where he is right now, lost 800 000 people because Hitler starved them in a siege. But the ugly raids from the West stretch back hundreds of years, as Putin pointed out to Tucker. So, that memory induces self-preservation.

Now compare this with Trump, and Q, and the Great Awakening which, in the past would be called a Revival. USA has seen revivals before. But I'll warrant this revival will be a big one, because that MArxist/Maoist idea of killing religion? Well that was done softly in the West, from the top down (Yeah I remember those edgy guys wearing berets with stars on them at university). And now there will be a popular backlash. People refuse to accept atheism, or agnosticism or whatever they prefer to label themselves as. (It is foolish to debate them because they DO have a religion). Anyway, It is wrong to kill innocents. It says Thou shalt not kill for a reason - and that first principles approach, without all the medieval stuff of indoctrination and coercion, has worked for thousands of years. When an atheist starts talking they come across as stupid and selfish.

But there is that other thread: Even as they rejected the church, Soviet Communism modelled itself on Christianity. There's that meme that declares that Jesus was the original communist. That is because the Soviets were trying to replace Christianity, so they had to use the 'useful' bits, such as workers being housed; very cheap medical care, bomb shelters underneath low-rise buildings, high employment, clean streets and advancement opportunities through the military-related industries etc. And guess what? Patriotism is much higher now. In the end the country found it better to just have religion back with all it's pomp and rituals.

In Russia there are now intellectuals who espouse communism, for all the good things it brought to a feudal society - and those that despise it for its repressions. But there is no argument about the benefit of people going to church. The tables have turned and the paradigm has been smashed.

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– TrumpTrollMaster 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Dumb fuck Gentile called himself a socialist when he invented fascism.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It appears to be a bit of a language game by the writers of the history to intentionally distort. This is likely why much of our history sounds like nonsensical bullshit. Probably only 30% of what is written is true going back 100 years, and even less the further back you go.

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– CIngone 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You're spot on with that. The line above the circle should have Fascism just above Communism along that same exact line. The argument they try to make is that Republicans are fascist simply because of patriotism which they try to label nationalism like Hitler while ignoring the rest of the step to get there

Other than that, there is little to no difference beyond the name

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– Standingoak 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

From Uncle Ugg , the biggest meanest SOB ,with a club , to the Warlord , Chief , King , Emperor , Descendant of a God , President or Resident. There has only been Two forms of Governance : Either the little people (peasants) are too stupid or lazy to take care of themselves or THEY ARE NOT.

RULE YOURSELF or others will seek to Rule You

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