It is called The War between the States , some call it The Civil War. But NO declaration of war was ever approved and no peace treaty ever signed. But it did allow the creation of a New Government .
Good discussion between you and u/standingoak. As I have sympathy and agreement toward both sides, may I proffer that we do both? In my opinion, you’re talking past each other.
At some point, [they] successfully knocked us off course, somehow. The specific actuals aren’t as important as knowing ways they might have done it to think about how to fix and protect against that attack.
Per notes, recover what we can and get to work on rebuilding.
“Conservatism” has mostly been a useless controlled opposition party for at least 50 years, if not much longer. Let’s learn how to properly oppose them while … wait for it … enacting “progress”. Commies can be the regressive consumers trying to conserve their democracy. “Progress” is ours now, but only if it irritates them!
I'm not the only one who sees it differently.
What is left-wing ideology? Socialism
Leftist ideology is any ideology that is based on collectivism, that only allows individuals to be part of a group, regardless of whether that group is an ethnic group, gay, queer or black. Any ideology that reserves rights for groups and prioritizes group rights over individual rights, for example by using alleged laws to prevent perceived hatred against "group members" as a reason to restrict or eliminate individual freedoms, is a leftist ideology.
There is also a flaw that defines left-wing ideology. Leftist ideology has no concrete and positive definitions of its own usefulness to offer. Left-wing ideology offers cloudy utopias to be achieved in the future, which mostly consist of a collection of positively valued set pieces that have no connection to questions of feasibility and meaning.
The consequence of this flaw is that although left-wing ideology has no concrete idea of what it is specifically striving for, it does have very concrete ideas of what it is fighting against. Left-wing ideology ALWAYS and without exception provides a clear and personalized image of the enemy. The enemy images have a common core, which is that the people labeled as enemies are blamed for a state of affairs that currently prevails and is declared to be bad. The narratives of man-made climate change, the claims of racism, the hatred of capitalism, they all have in common that those who do not want to follow these narratives or are identified as enemies in the narratives, the rich, the "climate change deniers", the homophobes and the far-right are blamed for the fact that we do not live in the paradise that left-wing ideology promises to those who are stupid enough to make it theirs, and stupid enough they must be. And once again they find stupid people in abundance.
And so once again they supply weapons and the stupid supply the corpses.
After all, all left-wing ideologies contain a promise of non-performance benefit, be it concretely in material benefits (money without work: citizens' income), in the form of status or as an offer of identity. Four features formally characterize ALL left-wing ideologies:
Collectivism,
no concrete positive content;
instead: concrete enemy image with guilt and atonement
atonement narrative;
offer of parasites;
This is why left-wing ideology generally and inevitably always leads to state terrorism.
What left-wing ideologies promise cannot be realized empirically. As a consequence, there is a growing gap between promise and ideology.
Left-wing ideologies are attractive to people who are characterized by a personality syndrome in which intellectual underachievement, inability to perform on their own merit and laziness prevent them from achieving important developmental achievements. (Green/left "sects").
No planned economy has ever worked. No socialist or communist regime has brought wealth and prosperity to its people. No left-wing ideology that has ever been implemented has resulted in social property being equally distributed and accessible to everyone. On the contrary, left-wing ideologies have always led to an economy of scarcity, to a party oligarchy that reserved for itself the few luxuries that the inefficient economy could provide, and to oppression and coercion, to state terrorism in the extreme class state.
That this is the case has to do with the fact that at the heart of left-wing ideology is a completely unworldly view of humanity that can only understand individuals as an organic part of a larger whole, which negates human passions, human interests, the entire human condition. The fact that this is the case ultimately has to do with the fact that the goals, the utopias proclaimed by left-wing ideologies are cloud-cuckoo land that cannot be achieved. A society of equals is not viable because the question of who should take care of the others and thus inevitably become unequal cannot be solved without implementing inequality. In fact, left-wing systems are generally extreme class societies with a party oligarchy that enriches itself abundantly and unscrupulously, which makes corruption an integral part of left-wing systems, which is opposed by the proletarian class, which in turn is kept in check by a sycophant class of military and administration and other servants, because no left-wing system survives if it does not use coercion and oppression.
What left-wing ideologies promise cannot be realized empirically. As a consequence, there is a growing gap between promise and ideology.
Left-wing ideologies are attractive to people who are characterized by a personality syndrome in which intellectual underachievement, inability to perform on their own merit and laziness prevent them from making important developmental achievements. (Green/left "sects").
No planned economy has ever worked. No socialist or communist regime has brought wealth and prosperity to its people. No left-wing ideology that has ever been implemented has resulted in social property being equally distributed and accessible to everyone. On the contrary, left-wing ideologies have always led to an economy of scarcity, to a party oligarchy that reserved for itself the few luxuries that the inefficient economy could provide, and to oppression and coercion, to state terrorism in the extreme class state.
That this is the case has to do with the fact that at the heart of left-wing ideology is a completely unworldly view of humanity that can only understand individuals as an organic part of a larger whole, which negates human passions, human interests, the entire human condition. The fact that this is the case ultimately has to do with the fact that the goals, the utopias proclaimed by left-wing ideologies are cloud-cuckoo land that cannot be achieved. A society of equals is not viable because the question of who should take care of the others and thus inevitably become unequal cannot be solved without implementing inequality. In fact, left-wing systems are generally extreme class societies with a party oligarchy that enriches itself abundantly and unscrupulously, which makes corruption an integral part of left-wing systems, which is opposed by the proletarian class, which in turn is kept in check by a sycophant class of military and administration and other servants, because no left-wing system survives if it does not use coercion and oppression.
There is a simple reason for this: the divergence between reality and what ideology proclaims is widening, the gap between reality and ideology is widening, and with the widening gap comes the need to fight reality and to suppress all those who point to reality, to take them out of circulation, to silence them and finally to eliminate them physically. Coercion, control and suppression are elementary and indispensable means of maintaining power in left-wing systems. Coercion and oppression take many forms, ranging from granting access to social positions only to well-behaved sycophants to physical coercion, to physical oppression in camps and prisons. Murder, mass murder as a rule, is a variant of oppression that is used to subdue others who may still be flirting with resistance. Control refers to all areas of life, to access to certain positions, to what is permitted as an opinion. Control is exercised via a media that is brought into line and the exclusion of all alternative media. All of this serves to conceal the failure of the system, the ever-widening gap between reality and the proclamations of left-wing ideology, and to suppress any form of criticism that would necessarily point to this gap.
The fact that left-wing ideology is at times able to establish a left-wing system has to do with the psychological constitution of those for whom the offers of left-wing ideology are attractive. As we have described above, they are characterized by a specific personality syndrome: Intellectual underachievement, the inability to form an identity through personal achievement and laziness are inextricably linked and make the offers of left-wing ideology so attractive to the people in question. They have no personal achievements to show that would make them a person on whom a personal identity could be based. They are usually characterized by laziness, which means that achievement and work are out of the question for them as a means of achieving goals, and their intellectual underachievement amplifies these two problems. In this situation, where such individuals are faced with their failed attempts to gain identity and status, leftist ideology makes the offer to simply define themselves as victims, externalizing their own inability and blaming it on others, the rich, capitalists, homophobes, racists, others who act as secret powers in society to prevent the advancement of these excellent specimens of the human species.
The offer to define oneself as a victim and thus to reject all responsibility for one's own inability, one's own failure, is the ticket to left-wing ideology; hatred of the successful, those who get ahead through their own efforts, is the link between the mental state of these failures and ideology. Both psychology and ideology are inseparable. Linked in this way to the weal and woe of ideology, its followers, who gain their identity exclusively from their association with ideology, must now, for their part, fight reality and all those who can be expected to point out the discrepancy between ideology and reality, make the fight against dissenters their task, and the wider the gap between ideology and reality becomes, the more fiercely these puppets of ideology must fight against dissenters, the more fierce they must become in their choice of means.
This is the reason why leftist ideology sooner or later arrives at state terrorism and mass murder, it is the reason why this end point is inevitable.
And now the German reality: politically organized party criminality plundering and destroying the country. The government in a frenzy of unconstitutionality. A majority of voters cannot sink their own country any lower.
And to swear to never stop progressivism once elected, only drag your feet and complain.
Soooo, "Nothing is happening"?
Whatever is happening isn't a result of 6 decades of "conservatives" fighting to keep it the way it was
What happens to Congress when 11 out of 33 states leave the Government ?
Without a quorum can it function ? "6 decades" LOL
Has that happened?
You don't know ?
You're insufferable
But you are ignorant and I can be nice.
It is called The War between the States , some call it The Civil War. But NO declaration of war was ever approved and no peace treaty ever signed. But it did allow the creation of a New Government .
Good discussion between you and u/standingoak. As I have sympathy and agreement toward both sides, may I proffer that we do both? In my opinion, you’re talking past each other.
Being led by your anger at the piper , you are. Do what is right , let them be damned or let them follow.
They do get me sometimes, but there’s also Sun Tzu - if your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him, which is what i was after.
It’s a tactical debate, though.
Discussion on Reitschuster.de 86 comments
bernhard büter
3 days ago
I'm not the only one who sees it differently. What is left-wing ideology? Socialism
Leftist ideology is any ideology that is based on collectivism, that only allows individuals to be part of a group, regardless of whether that group is an ethnic group, gay, queer or black. Any ideology that reserves rights for groups and prioritizes group rights over individual rights, for example by using alleged laws to prevent perceived hatred against "group members" as a reason to restrict or eliminate individual freedoms, is a leftist ideology.
There is also a flaw that defines left-wing ideology. Leftist ideology has no concrete and positive definitions of its own usefulness to offer. Left-wing ideology offers cloudy utopias to be achieved in the future, which mostly consist of a collection of positively valued set pieces that have no connection to questions of feasibility and meaning.
The consequence of this flaw is that although left-wing ideology has no concrete idea of what it is specifically striving for, it does have very concrete ideas of what it is fighting against. Left-wing ideology ALWAYS and without exception provides a clear and personalized image of the enemy. The enemy images have a common core, which is that the people labeled as enemies are blamed for a state of affairs that currently prevails and is declared to be bad. The narratives of man-made climate change, the claims of racism, the hatred of capitalism, they all have in common that those who do not want to follow these narratives or are identified as enemies in the narratives, the rich, the "climate change deniers", the homophobes and the far-right are blamed for the fact that we do not live in the paradise that left-wing ideology promises to those who are stupid enough to make it theirs, and stupid enough they must be. And once again they find stupid people in abundance. And so once again they supply weapons and the stupid supply the corpses. After all, all left-wing ideologies contain a promise of non-performance benefit, be it concretely in material benefits (money without work: citizens' income), in the form of status or as an offer of identity. Four features formally characterize ALL left-wing ideologies:
What left-wing ideologies promise cannot be realized empirically. As a consequence, there is a growing gap between promise and ideology. Left-wing ideologies are attractive to people who are characterized by a personality syndrome in which intellectual underachievement, inability to perform on their own merit and laziness prevent them from making important developmental achievements. (Green/left "sects"). No planned economy has ever worked. No socialist or communist regime has brought wealth and prosperity to its people. No left-wing ideology that has ever been implemented has resulted in social property being equally distributed and accessible to everyone. On the contrary, left-wing ideologies have always led to an economy of scarcity, to a party oligarchy that reserved for itself the few luxuries that the inefficient economy could provide, and to oppression and coercion, to state terrorism in the extreme class state. That this is the case has to do with the fact that at the heart of left-wing ideology is a completely unworldly view of humanity that can only understand individuals as an organic part of a larger whole, which negates human passions, human interests, the entire human condition. The fact that this is the case ultimately has to do with the fact that the goals, the utopias proclaimed by left-wing ideologies are cloud-cuckoo land that cannot be achieved. A society of equals is not viable because the question of who should take care of the others and thus inevitably become unequal cannot be solved without implementing inequality. In fact, left-wing systems are generally extreme class societies with a party oligarchy that enriches itself abundantly and unscrupulously, which makes corruption an integral part of left-wing systems, which is opposed by the proletarian class, which in turn is kept in check by a sycophant class of military and administration and other servants, because no left-wing system survives if it does not use coercion and oppression.
There is a simple reason for this: the divergence between reality and what ideology proclaims is widening, the gap between reality and ideology is widening, and with the widening gap comes the need to fight reality and to suppress all those who point to reality, to take them out of circulation, to silence them and finally to eliminate them physically. Coercion, control and suppression are elementary and indispensable means of maintaining power in left-wing systems. Coercion and oppression take many forms, ranging from granting access to social positions only to well-behaved sycophants to physical coercion, to physical oppression in camps and prisons. Murder, mass murder as a rule, is a variant of oppression that is used to subdue others who may still be flirting with resistance. Control refers to all areas of life, to access to certain positions, to what is permitted as an opinion. Control is exercised via a media that is brought into line and the exclusion of all alternative media. All of this serves to conceal the failure of the system, the ever-widening gap between reality and the proclamations of left-wing ideology, and to suppress any form of criticism that would necessarily point to this gap.
The fact that left-wing ideology is at times able to establish a left-wing system has to do with the psychological constitution of those for whom the offers of left-wing ideology are attractive. As we have described above, they are characterized by a specific personality syndrome: Intellectual underachievement, the inability to form an identity through personal achievement and laziness are inextricably linked and make the offers of left-wing ideology so attractive to the people in question. They have no personal achievements to show that would make them a person on whom a personal identity could be based. They are usually characterized by laziness, which means that achievement and work are out of the question for them as a means of achieving goals, and their intellectual underachievement amplifies these two problems. In this situation, where such individuals are faced with their failed attempts to gain identity and status, leftist ideology makes the offer to simply define themselves as victims, externalizing their own inability and blaming it on others, the rich, capitalists, homophobes, racists, others who act as secret powers in society to prevent the advancement of these excellent specimens of the human species.
The offer to define oneself as a victim and thus to reject all responsibility for one's own inability, one's own failure, is the ticket to left-wing ideology; hatred of the successful, those who get ahead through their own efforts, is the link between the mental state of these failures and ideology. Both psychology and ideology are inseparable. Linked in this way to the weal and woe of ideology, its followers, who gain their identity exclusively from their association with ideology, must now, for their part, fight reality and all those who can be expected to point out the discrepancy between ideology and reality, make the fight against dissenters their task, and the wider the gap between ideology and reality becomes, the more fiercely these puppets of ideology must fight against dissenters, the more fierce they must become in their choice of means.
This is the reason why leftist ideology sooner or later arrives at state terrorism and mass murder, it is the reason why this end point is inevitable.
And now the German reality: politically organized party criminality plundering and destroying the country. The government in a frenzy of unconstitutionality. A majority of voters cannot sink their own country any lower.
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)