The purpose of the 10 commandments is 1. a guideline on how to act as a Christian, as mandated by God, and 2. as the means with which we as humans can obviously see we cannot follow the commandments perfectly because we are sinful creatures as it stands rn, and subsequently need Jesus as our savior because we can't get to heaven or be perfectly righteous in God's eyes without HIM. As for all the saints and Godly people who died before Christ, I have an interesting theory about where they went as the heaven 'placeholder' till Jesus fulfilled the prophecies and reunited us with our Father and opened the pearly gates for us again. Abrahams bosom. But thats a little bit sidetracking kek
I would add that it was Israel alone, not any of the Gentile nations (including USA, sorry Christian Nationalists) that were bound in covenant with God to obey all 10 commandments perpetually so that they can maintain peace and blessings in that land God gave them. The 10 commandments include prohibition against any false religion, and strict adherence to the sign of the Sabbath which was meant to distinguish Israel as a nation granted certain privileges by God.
However a good portion of the 10 commandments (6 - 9 or 10) handily summarize the general equity of a righteous society that can function peacably and justly. Murder, theft, adultery, and so on. This portion overlaps with the Noahic code and covenant that God mad with all nations in Gen 11, a means by which societies and nations may be preserved and justice would protect the injured or vulnerable. But idolatry and false religious beliefs were not in purview for how society can continue to preserve humanity.
All that to say, the 10 commandments were really a handy pocket constitution for the nation of Israel, summarizing their responsibilities as a special nation with God as their covenant Lord. To rip it out of that covenantal context and think it applies to America or anywhere else at the nation-state level, is both wrong and dangerous to the mission of the Gospel.
I agree with your addition as well fren! Thank you for expanding on it. Thats what discussion is all about! Definitely not trying to take it out of a covenantal status by any means, but its quite interesting how, like you said better than me, TTC double as a pocket constitution on how to preserve a functioning society as well. Almost like God knows best or something kek
The purpose of the 10 commandments is 1. a guideline on how to act as a Christian, as mandated by God, and 2. as the means with which we as humans can obviously see we cannot follow the commandments perfectly because we are sinful creatures as it stands rn, and subsequently need Jesus as our savior because we can't get to heaven or be perfectly righteous in God's eyes without HIM. As for all the saints and Godly people who died before Christ, I have an interesting theory about where they went as the heaven 'placeholder' till Jesus fulfilled the prophecies and reunited us with our Father and opened the pearly gates for us again. Abrahams bosom. But thats a little bit sidetracking kek
Correct.
I would add that it was Israel alone, not any of the Gentile nations (including USA, sorry Christian Nationalists) that were bound in covenant with God to obey all 10 commandments perpetually so that they can maintain peace and blessings in that land God gave them. The 10 commandments include prohibition against any false religion, and strict adherence to the sign of the Sabbath which was meant to distinguish Israel as a nation granted certain privileges by God.
However a good portion of the 10 commandments (6 - 9 or 10) handily summarize the general equity of a righteous society that can function peacably and justly. Murder, theft, adultery, and so on. This portion overlaps with the Noahic code and covenant that God mad with all nations in Gen 11, a means by which societies and nations may be preserved and justice would protect the injured or vulnerable. But idolatry and false religious beliefs were not in purview for how society can continue to preserve humanity.
All that to say, the 10 commandments were really a handy pocket constitution for the nation of Israel, summarizing their responsibilities as a special nation with God as their covenant Lord. To rip it out of that covenantal context and think it applies to America or anywhere else at the nation-state level, is both wrong and dangerous to the mission of the Gospel.
I agree with your addition as well fren! Thank you for expanding on it. Thats what discussion is all about! Definitely not trying to take it out of a covenantal status by any means, but its quite interesting how, like you said better than me, TTC double as a pocket constitution on how to preserve a functioning society as well. Almost like God knows best or something kek
The 10 Commandments are not for Christians. Jesus gave us His commandments.
Hebrews 8:14 — By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.