When the true history of the world is written, we will fully understand what role Henry VIII played. One thing is for sure - Vatican has been compromised by the secret occult for a long time, one could argue that the very existence of Vatican / Pope is because the Satanists subverted Jesus teachings.
Henry VIII played a very important role in breaking the grip of the Vatican. Him wanting annulment of his marriage with Katherine brought up so many issues to the front where it concerns the role of the Church and Pope and just how much they oughta control people's lives.
More was amongst the people who tried to stop this, to tried to keep Vatican all powerful, and while the actual charges against him is probably fake, he died because she stood on the wrong side of this.
One thing I have learnt is that almost everything in history has been warped. Whenever there is a story that just doesnt make sense, you can bet there is something hidden behind the cover story.
If you dig into this more, you will see Pope was very flexible with his dispensations when needed. The reason he wouldn’t allow annulment was because we was being controlled by Katherine’s brother. I think the real reason is political, power balance between Spain and the rest of the Europe and pope’s role in it.
Btw here is an interesting read of what Pope did to King Henry IV
The Catholic church is the TRUE & ORIGINAL Apostolic Church. King Henry the VIII intially rejected Luther's revolt & Rome titled him "Defender of the Faith". It was only after King VIII was forced to marry his older brothers sister, him being bewitched by Anne Bolyen, did he attempt a divorce. When Rome rejected his request for a divorce, did Henry jump on the Protestant Revolt band wagon.
Henry would execute Anne Boylen, his protestant wife, for witchcraft. Her Daughter, Queen Elizabeth I performed a coup on Catholic queen Mary & proceeded to participate in SATANISM & Kabalab with her warlock, John Dee.
Research the break up. The Catholic Church is the TRUE Church, currently being held Hostage by Freemasons.
Jesus & his Apostles instituted it & continued it throughout Jewish Persecution & Rome finally converted & aseembled that Bible you claim you have authority to interpret.
Jesus instituted ONE Church & gave sacraments. I personally do not believe there are 45,000 man-made protestant ways to attain salvation unfortunately.
Its good that Christians are having these difficult conversations after 500 years of apostasy & cabal driven wars.
I am not sure who keeps downvoting you, this is good discussion. And just to be clear I am not saying protestantism is the way to attain salvation either. Infact, I am against all forms of organised religion as far as spirituality is concerned. I found my own way to Jesus after being a lifelong atheist/agnostic, via Q, when I learnt exactly what got Jesus crucified.
As far as salvation is concerned, each person needs to find their own connection to Jesus and God.
But my point is the other aspect of Church - social control. Breaking that power structure away from a monopoly allowed weakening of that power, even though, like you correctly pointed out, Satanists albeit a different faction, managed to fill the vacuum left after Henry VIII created Church of England when they put Elizabeth on the throne.
This is actually the story of the Cabal all the way to Q. Each time a faction of Cabal turns against another faction, and the good folks have been manipulating it to the eventual Great Awakening we are at.
For example, in recent times, the whole of 1900s makes a lot of sense when you realise it was that everything that happened during that century is the result of the factional warfare between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers / Mossad vs CIA.
As far as Henry VIII, like I said, only real history will tell us how much of what Henry did was intentional vs accidental. I personally do not accept any great changes in history happened accidentally. Its quite possible but highly improbable that something as big as that happened purely so he could marry a girl whom he beheaded eventually anyways.
All that apart, I am curious to know what versus in Bible do you offer as proof that he Jesus and his Apostles instituted it? I hope you don't just say Isiah 22.
So here is my personal perspective. For 1,500 years there was just one church until the infamous German monk came around & edited the original bible, removing 7 books & adding words to justify his new theology. So one thing Protestants resist, reject or simply fail research is the Church's role in combating heresy, occult forces & secret societies centuries before they came along.
▪️Saint William of Norwich, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️saint Simon of Trent, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️Holy Child of Lagardia, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️14th Century, French Catholics execute the Knights Templar (forrunners to Freemasonry) for being Satanic gay bankers.
▪️15th Century, Catholic Authorities hunting down Lumbrosos (Illumaniti).
▪️1738. Pope Clement calls out Freemasons dead to rights & bans all Catholics from joining
Protestants sincerely believe that "true" Christianity began in 1517, but they fail to understand that their ongoing protest against the original Church further strengthen the Cabal & while weakening Christiandom (divide and conquer).
Lastly, analyze Martin Luthers crest looks EXACTLY like a Rosecrtian emblem. Is it too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that the "reformation" was a Cabal operation?
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Pontiff = Pontifex Maximus, leader of highest priestly order in Roman Empire.
After Julius Caesar the title became a prerogative of Roman Emperors, and they continued holding that title until it was passed to the Pope.
Pope Boniface VIII, publicly and on record, seated on the throne in Constantine, declared "I am Caesar" while adorned in imperial attire.
Knights Templar were created in 1119, nothing to do with Christianity, King Baldwin sent the recommendation to Pope to officially offer them a charter. They were running the worlds first major international banking for more than 200 years, acquiring immeasurable wealth and were used by the Christian kings as mercenaires before they were destroyed.
The reason for destroying the Templars was more to do with the political struggele between the Popes and King Phillip for France, and France being deeply in debt to the Templars (as is the end result of any usury) and wanting to take over the order which De Molay did not agree.
Of course when the Satanists throw one of their own under the bus they bring out the satanic crimes that everyone already knew. Just optics.
Ever wonder why so many old churches have spires on them? They represent exactly the same as the Washington Monument. The penis of Osiris. Because in the day they were Catholic Churches, in the night they were Satanic Churches.
There is so much we can keep digging into. And yes, like the criminals that FBI catches is 90% real criminals, but the remaining 10% are their real targets, and like how 90% of the FBI agents dont even know they are working for evil, the same is true for Catholic Church (and every other Satanic organisation).
The point is, Catholic Church was the facade the Satanic Roman Empire melted into when their power started crumbling, much like how the Nazis melted into the US Deep State after WW2.
Added: We cannot say the Catholic Church is the original church since there was no Catholic Church for 300 years after Jesus. So technically you can say its the first church but thats all.
Why do Protestant WASP Freemasons Larp as Catholic Knights templars? Look up the Knights Templar chapel in Alexandria, VA. The Templars were an honorable order until it was subverted by Gnostics.
Who executed the Templars? That's right, the Catholic Church. Who kicked out the Jew Bankers from France? Yup, Catholics.
Look up Knight Kadosh Masonic rite. They stab the Tripple Tiara (Pope) in effigy? Why? Because the Catholic Church the TRUE & ORIGINAL their enemy. The Pope Clement had them dead to rites in 1738 & banned Catholics from joining. Can you show me where your personal church has ever banned Masonry? Please provide proof.
The Judeo-masons were behind the "reformation" movement, Luther himself was influenced by the Kabbalah.
Look up the Keys of the Bastielle hanging in George Washington's house. The Satanic Freemasons double crossed the French Monarchy & Masons overthrew the Christian mobarch.
It would appear to be in the Catholic Church, is the only real church that the freemasons fear. Protestant WASP were okay being in bed with Judeo-Masons,kicking off revolutions around the world against Catholic lands but it would appear to me that Protestants have outlasted their usefulness & now the Jews are fooding your WASP countries, sending you guys off to war...again. Wasps must have never gotten the memo.
Interestigly enough, Loyola was caught up in the Spanish Inquisition while the Church was hunting down the Illumaniti. A full century before the heretical Protestant sects began popup.
So, we both can be technically correct. The Church is the Original Church fighting the enemies of Jesus Christ & the Jesuits may have never actually been a good order.
I personally do not believe there are 45,000 man-made protestant ways to attain salvation unfortunately.
True , something closer to 8 billion today.
Neither shall men say, Lo here, or lo there: for behold, the kingdom of God is within you. -- Luke 17:21
For where two or three are gathered together in my Name, there am I in the midst of them. -- Matthew 18:20
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against the worldly governors, the princes of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness, which are in the high places. -- Ephesians 6:12 --1599 Geneva
Were or are Popes & Pharisees "in the high places" ?
You can chose to ignore 2,000 years of Christian Doctrine & tradition but you do so, at your own spiritual parrel.
There's a reason why the FBI is targetting traditional Catholics, who reject the Masonic Vatican II coup. The question you should ask yourself is, why aren't they targetting your church? Because you dont pose a threat to the Masonic empire.
Vatican II was influenced by the CIA, Communists & Freemasons & yes, some protestants Ministers were involved in the development of the Novos Ordo Mass.
Vatican II was a coup executed by the enemies of the Church. They can never destroy the church but they sure did demoralize the only Church to stand up to the Communists, Freemasons/Templars & synagogue of Satan.
Catholics that still hold on to the traditions of the past seem to be target #1. Tells me that they fear traditionalists taking back the church & spear heading the re-Christianization of the West.,
Actually, his actions were counterreactions to Katherine's position of being a catholic woman with no great faults refusing to dissappear into a monastery. That is an example that one person can change the world. Her position created a church of England as a result. What do you mean by stating that she was on the wrong side. She was raised as a catholic and a princess of a powerful royal family. She was a woman of her times. You can't expect her being a revolutionary. She was defending her faith and her name.
There's currently 45,000 protestant churches each giving their own discernment; are you sure you chose the right one?
What if it was infact the devil who influenced Luther, a Rosecruitian who dabbled in kabbala? What then? What if it was the cabal who splintered the original Church, thus weakening Christiandom?
Did you know that the Catholics were hunting down the Illumaniti (Lumbrosos) during the Spanish Inquisition of 15th century? A full century before Luther's schism? What if there is MORE to the story behind the sham "Reformation"? What if the "Reformers" were the BLM of their day?
Highly recommend this movie. Amongst film making's greatest achievements. Pay close attention to more's admonition to son Roper about knocking down the law to get to the devil. "And when the devil turns round on you...how will you stand in the wind that blows then, the laws all being flat?"
I also think this is one of God's great ironies, that He would use a man like Henry to usher in The Reformation.
When the true history of the world is written, we will fully understand what role Henry VIII played. One thing is for sure - Vatican has been compromised by the secret occult for a long time, one could argue that the very existence of Vatican / Pope is because the Satanists subverted Jesus teachings.
Henry VIII played a very important role in breaking the grip of the Vatican. Him wanting annulment of his marriage with Katherine brought up so many issues to the front where it concerns the role of the Church and Pope and just how much they oughta control people's lives.
More was amongst the people who tried to stop this, to tried to keep Vatican all powerful, and while the actual charges against him is probably fake, he died because she stood on the wrong side of this.
Thank u for that mini history lesson , love it !!!
He could have had something call McLeod Syndrome, this could explain his personality change when in his 40's.
https://www.rcpe.ac.uk/sites/default/files/stride_5.pdf
One thing I have learnt is that almost everything in history has been warped. Whenever there is a story that just doesnt make sense, you can bet there is something hidden behind the cover story.
If you dig into this more, you will see Pope was very flexible with his dispensations when needed. The reason he wouldn’t allow annulment was because we was being controlled by Katherine’s brother. I think the real reason is political, power balance between Spain and the rest of the Europe and pope’s role in it.
Btw here is an interesting read of what Pope did to King Henry IV
The Catholic church is the TRUE & ORIGINAL Apostolic Church. King Henry the VIII intially rejected Luther's revolt & Rome titled him "Defender of the Faith". It was only after King VIII was forced to marry his older brothers sister, him being bewitched by Anne Bolyen, did he attempt a divorce. When Rome rejected his request for a divorce, did Henry jump on the Protestant Revolt band wagon. Henry would execute Anne Boylen, his protestant wife, for witchcraft. Her Daughter, Queen Elizabeth I performed a coup on Catholic queen Mary & proceeded to participate in SATANISM & Kabalab with her warlock, John Dee. Research the break up. The Catholic Church is the TRUE Church, currently being held Hostage by Freemasons.
So who came from heaven to Earth and designated them as the "TRUE" church?
And why did they exclude books like Book of Enoch from the Bible ?
Jesus & his Apostles instituted it & continued it throughout Jewish Persecution & Rome finally converted & aseembled that Bible you claim you have authority to interpret.
Jesus instituted ONE Church & gave sacraments. I personally do not believe there are 45,000 man-made protestant ways to attain salvation unfortunately.
Its good that Christians are having these difficult conversations after 500 years of apostasy & cabal driven wars.
I am not sure who keeps downvoting you, this is good discussion. And just to be clear I am not saying protestantism is the way to attain salvation either. Infact, I am against all forms of organised religion as far as spirituality is concerned. I found my own way to Jesus after being a lifelong atheist/agnostic, via Q, when I learnt exactly what got Jesus crucified.
As far as salvation is concerned, each person needs to find their own connection to Jesus and God.
But my point is the other aspect of Church - social control. Breaking that power structure away from a monopoly allowed weakening of that power, even though, like you correctly pointed out, Satanists albeit a different faction, managed to fill the vacuum left after Henry VIII created Church of England when they put Elizabeth on the throne.
This is actually the story of the Cabal all the way to Q. Each time a faction of Cabal turns against another faction, and the good folks have been manipulating it to the eventual Great Awakening we are at.
For example, in recent times, the whole of 1900s makes a lot of sense when you realise it was that everything that happened during that century is the result of the factional warfare between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers / Mossad vs CIA.
As far as Henry VIII, like I said, only real history will tell us how much of what Henry did was intentional vs accidental. I personally do not accept any great changes in history happened accidentally. Its quite possible but highly improbable that something as big as that happened purely so he could marry a girl whom he beheaded eventually anyways.
All that apart, I am curious to know what versus in Bible do you offer as proof that he Jesus and his Apostles instituted it? I hope you don't just say Isiah 22.
So here is my personal perspective. For 1,500 years there was just one church until the infamous German monk came around & edited the original bible, removing 7 books & adding words to justify his new theology. So one thing Protestants resist, reject or simply fail research is the Church's role in combating heresy, occult forces & secret societies centuries before they came along.
▪️Saint William of Norwich, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️saint Simon of Trent, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️Holy Child of Lagardia, ritually murdered by the Epstein tribe. Cabal executed by Catholic authorities.
▪️14th Century, French Catholics execute the Knights Templar (forrunners to Freemasonry) for being Satanic gay bankers.
▪️15th Century, Catholic Authorities hunting down Lumbrosos (Illumaniti).
▪️1738. Pope Clement calls out Freemasons dead to rights & bans all Catholics from joining
Protestants sincerely believe that "true" Christianity began in 1517, but they fail to understand that their ongoing protest against the original Church further strengthen the Cabal & while weakening Christiandom (divide and conquer).
Lastly, analyze Martin Luthers crest looks EXACTLY like a Rosecrtian emblem. Is it too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that the "reformation" was a Cabal operation? .
Pontiff = Pontifex Maximus, leader of highest priestly order in Roman Empire.
After Julius Caesar the title became a prerogative of Roman Emperors, and they continued holding that title until it was passed to the Pope.
Pope Boniface VIII, publicly and on record, seated on the throne in Constantine, declared "I am Caesar" while adorned in imperial attire.
Knights Templar were created in 1119, nothing to do with Christianity, King Baldwin sent the recommendation to Pope to officially offer them a charter. They were running the worlds first major international banking for more than 200 years, acquiring immeasurable wealth and were used by the Christian kings as mercenaires before they were destroyed.
The reason for destroying the Templars was more to do with the political struggele between the Popes and King Phillip for France, and France being deeply in debt to the Templars (as is the end result of any usury) and wanting to take over the order which De Molay did not agree.
Of course when the Satanists throw one of their own under the bus they bring out the satanic crimes that everyone already knew. Just optics.
Ever wonder why so many old churches have spires on them? They represent exactly the same as the Washington Monument. The penis of Osiris. Because in the day they were Catholic Churches, in the night they were Satanic Churches.
There is so much we can keep digging into. And yes, like the criminals that FBI catches is 90% real criminals, but the remaining 10% are their real targets, and like how 90% of the FBI agents dont even know they are working for evil, the same is true for Catholic Church (and every other Satanic organisation).
The point is, Catholic Church was the facade the Satanic Roman Empire melted into when their power started crumbling, much like how the Nazis melted into the US Deep State after WW2.
Added: We cannot say the Catholic Church is the original church since there was no Catholic Church for 300 years after Jesus. So technically you can say its the first church but thats all.
Why do Protestant WASP Freemasons Larp as Catholic Knights templars? Look up the Knights Templar chapel in Alexandria, VA. The Templars were an honorable order until it was subverted by Gnostics.
Who executed the Templars? That's right, the Catholic Church. Who kicked out the Jew Bankers from France? Yup, Catholics.
Look up Knight Kadosh Masonic rite. They stab the Tripple Tiara (Pope) in effigy? Why? Because the Catholic Church the TRUE & ORIGINAL their enemy. The Pope Clement had them dead to rites in 1738 & banned Catholics from joining. Can you show me where your personal church has ever banned Masonry? Please provide proof.
The Judeo-masons were behind the "reformation" movement, Luther himself was influenced by the Kabbalah.
Look up the Keys of the Bastielle hanging in George Washington's house. The Satanic Freemasons double crossed the French Monarchy & Masons overthrew the Christian mobarch.
It would appear to be in the Catholic Church, is the only real church that the freemasons fear. Protestant WASP were okay being in bed with Judeo-Masons,kicking off revolutions around the world against Catholic lands but it would appear to me that Protestants have outlasted their usefulness & now the Jews are fooding your WASP countries, sending you guys off to war...again. Wasps must have never gotten the memo.
Yes. A quick read of the Spiritual Exercises of Loyola shows the Jesuit order is Satanic to the core.
Interestigly enough, Loyola was caught up in the Spanish Inquisition while the Church was hunting down the Illumaniti. A full century before the heretical Protestant sects began popup.
So, we both can be technically correct. The Church is the Original Church fighting the enemies of Jesus Christ & the Jesuits may have never actually been a good order.
True , something closer to 8 billion today.
Neither shall men say, Lo here, or lo there: for behold, the kingdom of God is within you. -- Luke 17:21
For where two or three are gathered together in my Name, there am I in the midst of them. -- Matthew 18:20
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against the worldly governors, the princes of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness, which are in the high places. -- Ephesians 6:12 --1599 Geneva
Were or are Popes & Pharisees "in the high places" ?
You can chose to ignore 2,000 years of Christian Doctrine & tradition but you do so, at your own spiritual parrel.
There's a reason why the FBI is targetting traditional Catholics, who reject the Masonic Vatican II coup. The question you should ask yourself is, why aren't they targetting your church? Because you dont pose a threat to the Masonic empire.
Thanks , I worry more about God than the FBI. He always Wins.
Could it be because they became Protestants?
Vatican II was influenced by the CIA, Communists & Freemasons & yes, some protestants Ministers were involved in the development of the Novos Ordo Mass.
Vatican II was a coup executed by the enemies of the Church. They can never destroy the church but they sure did demoralize the only Church to stand up to the Communists, Freemasons/Templars & synagogue of Satan.
Catholics that still hold on to the traditions of the past seem to be target #1. Tells me that they fear traditionalists taking back the church & spear heading the re-Christianization of the West.,
TheFBI is & has always been a MASONIC organization. The Stazi police for the Wasp- Freemasons.
Actually, his actions were counterreactions to Katherine's position of being a catholic woman with no great faults refusing to dissappear into a monastery. That is an example that one person can change the world. Her position created a church of England as a result. What do you mean by stating that she was on the wrong side. She was raised as a catholic and a princess of a powerful royal family. She was a woman of her times. You can't expect her being a revolutionary. She was defending her faith and her name.
Ah, looks like I made a typo. I meant to say "he was on the wrong side" not "she", sorry.
I see, ty for clarification
The pope has no authority.
Who gave you authority to make that claim?
The gift of discernment.
There's currently 45,000 protestant churches each giving their own discernment; are you sure you chose the right one?
What if it was infact the devil who influenced Luther, a Rosecruitian who dabbled in kabbala? What then? What if it was the cabal who splintered the original Church, thus weakening Christiandom?
Did you know that the Catholics were hunting down the Illumaniti (Lumbrosos) during the Spanish Inquisition of 15th century? A full century before Luther's schism? What if there is MORE to the story behind the sham "Reformation"? What if the "Reformers" were the BLM of their day?
Highly recommend this movie. Amongst film making's greatest achievements. Pay close attention to more's admonition to son Roper about knocking down the law to get to the devil. "And when the devil turns round on you...how will you stand in the wind that blows then, the laws all being flat?"
I also think this is one of God's great ironies, that He would use a man like Henry to usher in The Reformation.
And the 45,000 man-made protestant church's that followed sinful, rebellious men like Luther & King Henry.
ALL fall short.
Not that this kind of thing every happens now and in the U.S....
Just another example of men trying to be "God-Emperors"! RIP sir ❤️🙏