“Lunch was with 5 top space scientists. It was fascinating. Space truly is the last frontier and some of the developments there in astronomy etc. are like science fiction except they are real. I learned that our shuttle capacity is such we could orbit 300 people.”
As far as the General public knew in 1985. We had 3 operational Space Shuttles. With a 4th due to have it’s maiden flight in October of that year. The stated maximum potential crew complement was 8. Which is 32.
Even if they converted the Mock-up test bed into a fully operational unit. That’s still at best 40 potential people in orbit. So where are the extra 260 coming from? It’s possible it was a reference to in a pinch they could throw together enough shuttles to put 300 people into orbit. But Reagan seems to be writing in the present tense like they could do so at any moment.
And there’s been several alleged whistleblowers from Defense Contractors. Stating they were working on the plans for just about every Sci-Fi vehicle and equipment concept you could imagine. Military Equipment. Mining Rigs. Colonial Habitats. Warships, Deep Space Freighters. Research Stations. Military Bases etc. Starting as early as the 1950s.
There’s also the story of the hacker Gary McKinnon. Who claimed to have found evidence that the U.S Navy had files labeled off world assignments. Containing the names of ships not in official public registry.
Supposedly there was a “space shuttle cargobay passenger module” that could carry 2x26 people seated side by side in two rows (similar to C-5 galaxy jumpseats in cargobay). This would make capacity 60. And supposedly ‘Enterprise’ shuttle used for landing tests could be retrofitted for flight although there likely were more shuttles built than were public, making 5x60=300.
A similar cargobay passenger module was shown in one of the sci-fi space movies of the 1990s or 2000s.
EDIT: Module design may also have been 4x13 with four rows (2 sets of face-to-face). I have seen depictions of both.
Huh. Interesting I didn’t know that. As best I’ve been able to find in a quick search. That Module never existed anywhere aside from some proposed conceptual technical drawings of different variants.
Still if it did or does exist as part of some black project. It would by virtue of its existence imply the existence of extensive space infrastructure. Or it wouldn’t have a point to justify its existence.
Heck even the drawings existence alone would suggest someone was planning on the creation of extensive infrastructure
Unclear its true purpose. I am not convinced we can get outside the “firmament” from our present “terranium-like enclosure” at this location on Earth (may be possible from other locations of larger Earth). So the need for hauling 60 people up to top of a dome is clearly not a thing to me unless we have Helium balloons holding up “space stations”. If the moon is actually inside our dome and closer than reported, maybe the need to ferry 60 people at a time to a moonbase?
Our satellites appear to be attached to Helium balloons bumping up against “top of the sky dome structure” whatever it really is (Chinese balloon was likely a reveal). They are “orbiting” circularly inside, not around the Earth. Note massive Helium consumption and ownership by NASA since Sept 30, 1958 creation from NACA.
Maybe. Doubtful the suits on the committee would risk their necks riding what is in essence a giant bomb into orbit.
And they likely don’t trust each other enough to get in those tin cans together either. All it takes is one of them deciding he’s better off without the others.
A sabotage here. A couple cut lines there. And the Committee of 300 will rapidly find itself shrinking in size.
we've seen the Tic Tac video, the gov has said it's real, so we know there is tech that ignores gravity and inertia.
I'm guessing the comm of 300 would take the "get in and sit down, have a drink, enjoy a conversation" type of trip to space rather than "get in the clunky space suit, insert the tubes, strap into the cramped seat and wait for the chaos, roll the dice, and if you live...." ride to space.
Reagan Diary entry. Dated June 11, 1985
As far as the General public knew in 1985. We had 3 operational Space Shuttles. With a 4th due to have it’s maiden flight in October of that year. The stated maximum potential crew complement was 8. Which is 32.
Even if they converted the Mock-up test bed into a fully operational unit. That’s still at best 40 potential people in orbit. So where are the extra 260 coming from? It’s possible it was a reference to in a pinch they could throw together enough shuttles to put 300 people into orbit. But Reagan seems to be writing in the present tense like they could do so at any moment.
And there’s been several alleged whistleblowers from Defense Contractors. Stating they were working on the plans for just about every Sci-Fi vehicle and equipment concept you could imagine. Military Equipment. Mining Rigs. Colonial Habitats. Warships, Deep Space Freighters. Research Stations. Military Bases etc. Starting as early as the 1950s.
There’s also the story of the hacker Gary McKinnon. Who claimed to have found evidence that the U.S Navy had files labeled off world assignments. Containing the names of ships not in official public registry.
Supposedly there was a “space shuttle cargobay passenger module” that could carry 2x26 people seated side by side in two rows (similar to C-5 galaxy jumpseats in cargobay). This would make capacity 60. And supposedly ‘Enterprise’ shuttle used for landing tests could be retrofitted for flight although there likely were more shuttles built than were public, making 5x60=300.
A similar cargobay passenger module was shown in one of the sci-fi space movies of the 1990s or 2000s.
EDIT: Module design may also have been 4x13 with four rows (2 sets of face-to-face). I have seen depictions of both.
Huh. Interesting I didn’t know that. As best I’ve been able to find in a quick search. That Module never existed anywhere aside from some proposed conceptual technical drawings of different variants.
Still if it did or does exist as part of some black project. It would by virtue of its existence imply the existence of extensive space infrastructure. Or it wouldn’t have a point to justify its existence.
Heck even the drawings existence alone would suggest someone was planning on the creation of extensive infrastructure
Unclear its true purpose. I am not convinced we can get outside the “firmament” from our present “terranium-like enclosure” at this location on Earth (may be possible from other locations of larger Earth). So the need for hauling 60 people up to top of a dome is clearly not a thing to me unless we have Helium balloons holding up “space stations”. If the moon is actually inside our dome and closer than reported, maybe the need to ferry 60 people at a time to a moonbase?
Our satellites appear to be attached to Helium balloons bumping up against “top of the sky dome structure” whatever it really is (Chinese balloon was likely a reveal). They are “orbiting” circularly inside, not around the Earth. Note massive Helium consumption and ownership by NASA since Sept 30, 1958 creation from NACA.
orbit 300 people? Like say a committee? A committee of 300 maybe?
Maybe. Doubtful the suits on the committee would risk their necks riding what is in essence a giant bomb into orbit.
And they likely don’t trust each other enough to get in those tin cans together either. All it takes is one of them deciding he’s better off without the others.
A sabotage here. A couple cut lines there. And the Committee of 300 will rapidly find itself shrinking in size.
we've seen the Tic Tac video, the gov has said it's real, so we know there is tech that ignores gravity and inertia.
I'm guessing the comm of 300 would take the "get in and sit down, have a drink, enjoy a conversation" type of trip to space rather than "get in the clunky space suit, insert the tubes, strap into the cramped seat and wait for the chaos, roll the dice, and if you live...." ride to space.
Wow... amazing find pleb! 👏