Let Kamala be chosen the Democrat candidate in their August convention.
Immediately afterwards, Trump can challenge Kamala's candidacy to the Supreme Court. She is ineligible by law and doesn't meet the Constitution requirements to be president. She was never born as a natural citizen of the U.S., which is a legal requirement. There is no way around it.
The Democrats will waste time making Kamala the candidate... and then in September they will have to name a different ELIGIBLE candidate instead. That new candidate will be too late to get on the ballot in many states, and too late for mail-out ballots in some states.
Actually 14th is not clear.
I believe White Hats may use this issue to overturn the US v. Wong (anchor baby) decision which wrongly interpreted 14th. For instance American Indians were not recognized as citizens until a law in 1920s well after the Wong decision even though they obviously were born in US.
SCOTUS also never made decision with respect to Article 2 meaning of ‘natural born’, only the 14th. Could conceivably wind up with 2 definitions of natural born one for birthright citizenship for anchor babies and other for presidential eligibility.
But preferably they would overturn Wong and make natural born mean Jus Sanguinis
Her father was working for the Jamaican government. Her parents were not USA citizens and were ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of Jamaica. Not the USA. Therefore she’s not eligible.
Many articles and arguments have been written about this. Also the Federalist Papers detail this. It’s ridiculous to think anyone can spawn on USA soil and that spawn be classified as a citizen.
Can you quote the legal definition of “natural born citizen” in the 14th Amendment, as you so justify as “pretty clear,” for us?
Given the propensity of the Supreme Court to take on such things lately, and actually rule justly, I’d consider not speaking in absolutes - but that’s just how I roll these days…
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
The "definition" was decided on by the SC in the Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision, only Congress has the power to change it.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
It will be up to Congress to override The SC to clarify if someone born to "alien" parents is a citizen so guess what, they won't do crap! Don't kill the messenger, I am just saying what the current system allows.
need to be natural born citizen, not just a citizen. very strong argument that both parents need to have been citizens before she was born to qualify as natural born ants hence qualify for office
That argument went before the SC and they ruled in favor of the plaintiff. We may not like what they ruled but the only way to change is is Congress so we are pretty much screwed on that attack mode!
The SC made the wrong ruling on this in Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision but only Congress can change it so this battle plan against Harris is going to fail. Her merits should be enough to get her UN-elected! Keke
Let Kamala be chosen the Democrat candidate in their August convention.
Immediately afterwards, Trump can challenge Kamala's candidacy to the Supreme Court. She is ineligible by law and doesn't meet the Constitution requirements to be president. She was never born as a natural citizen of the U.S., which is a legal requirement. There is no way around it.
The Democrats will waste time making Kamala the candidate... and then in September they will have to name a different ELIGIBLE candidate instead. That new candidate will be too late to get on the ballot in many states, and too late for mail-out ballots in some states.
The Constitution says she is eligible. She was born in the US even though her parents were not citizens. The 14th is pretty clear.
Actually 14th is not clear. I believe White Hats may use this issue to overturn the US v. Wong (anchor baby) decision which wrongly interpreted 14th. For instance American Indians were not recognized as citizens until a law in 1920s well after the Wong decision even though they obviously were born in US. SCOTUS also never made decision with respect to Article 2 meaning of ‘natural born’, only the 14th. Could conceivably wind up with 2 definitions of natural born one for birthright citizenship for anchor babies and other for presidential eligibility. But preferably they would overturn Wong and make natural born mean Jus Sanguinis
Her father was working for the Jamaican government. Her parents were not USA citizens and were ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of Jamaica. Not the USA. Therefore she’s not eligible.
Many articles and arguments have been written about this. Also the Federalist Papers detail this. It’s ridiculous to think anyone can spawn on USA soil and that spawn be classified as a citizen.
They are Democrats working for the Cabal (Spectre of the Bond series). They do what they want. Look at Barry!
There was an exception made specifically regarding the citizenship of Indians
Trump has mentioned he wants to end “Birth Tourism” so I think you’re right on that.
Can you quote the legal definition of “natural born citizen” in the 14th Amendment, as you so justify as “pretty clear,” for us?
Given the propensity of the Supreme Court to take on such things lately, and actually rule justly, I’d consider not speaking in absolutes - but that’s just how I roll these days…
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
The "definition" was decided on by the SC in the Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision, only Congress has the power to change it.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
It will be up to Congress to override The SC to clarify if someone born to "alien" parents is a citizen so guess what, they won't do crap! Don't kill the messenger, I am just saying what the current system allows.
That precedent doesn’t define “natural born citizen” definitively…
This again?
They keep beating this dead horse and he ain't gonna win no race! SC ruled on this already! Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision
need to be natural born citizen, not just a citizen. very strong argument that both parents need to have been citizens before she was born to qualify as natural born ants hence qualify for office
That argument went before the SC and they ruled in favor of the plaintiff. We may not like what they ruled but the only way to change is is Congress so we are pretty much screwed on that attack mode!
We MUST have an uncompromised Congress! Thanks fren!
are you referring to Wong? that wasn't on point legally if my memory serves
I look forward to the day when the 14th is overturned...the way it's being interpreted was never it's intention.
The SC made the wrong ruling on this in Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision but only Congress can change it so this battle plan against Harris is going to fail. Her merits should be enough to get her UN-elected! Keke
This seems like the most plausible and likely scenario.
GWP already has a story that in Wisconsin you cannot take Biden off the ballot unless by DEATH. So since he hasn't died yet, he's still the (D) in WI.
Nevada and Georgia had similar rules.
So what happens if someone still votes for him? Just tossed?
I think every D voter should write in Joe Biden :) Don't let them tell you No to Joe lol!
The intent of the voter shall come into play here since it is a vote for a Democrat. Rules and laws are for Republicans only.
And it shall be Hillary.