Natural Born Citizen Clause Still Ignored
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And don't let the new shills out here try and convince you that United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) defined Natural Born Citizen as anyone born on U.S. Soil. It did not.
The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.
If the founders intended that anyone born on American soil was a Natural Born Citizen, then why did they have to add:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President?
Because it was not until July 4, 1811, that the first first “natural born” citizens… those born to U.S. citizens after July 4, 1776… became 35 years of age.
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Kamala Harris's Eligibility Under Originalist Interpretation
If all, or a good many Red states would refuse to allow Kamala to appear on ballot because she's is not a Natural Born Citizen, we could force SCOTUS to decide hopefully.
There are some who like to claim that Trumps mother was not a citizen at time of his birth. I think she was a naturalized citizen though. However:
Under natural law in late eighteenth-century Europe and America: the father’s blood determined the political allegiance of free persons at birth; the mother was legally irrelevant.
The founders relied on Emmerich de Vattel's text for the mesning.
Let's look directly at Emmerich de Vattel's text from "The Law of Nations" to clarify this:
In Book 1, Chapter 19, § 212, Vattel writes:
While this passage does emphasize the father's role, it mentions "parents" in the plural when defining natural-born citizens. This can be interpreted as requiring both parents to be citizens, but it also places particular importance on the father in terms of the child's legal status.
The focus on the father is typical of the time when Vattel wrote, reflecting societal norms where paternal lineage was often the primary determinant of citizenship and legal rights.
So, while Vattel's text does indeed highlight the father's condition, the broader context includes both parents as citizens when defining natural-born citizenship.
This is my understanding. I could be wrong, or the source from which I derived this understanding might have been wrong.
The founders relied on Emmerich de Vattel's text for the mesning (sic).
That the founders who wrote the amendments relied on Vattel's text is implied, but not documented anywhere explicitly. Implied because they all were known to have a copy, and I think I read somewhere that there is written evidence that they made reference to his writings, although not explicit his writings on the issue of Natural Born.
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