There is no "true pope". There's no call in the Bible for a "pope" to exist.
The notion that Catholics have abducted Peter into role of "pope" and thinking they developed pedigreed lineage of flawless, sinless popes that weren't at all flawed until the advent of social media, and hold the patent on Christianity to the exclusion of all who protest (i.e. protestants), is ridiculous.
This comment is not directed towards CMAnon. It's more directed at people who place Vigano on a pedestal because he has taken baby steps towards protesting the Catholic church and therefore became a better Catholic, instead of a better Protestant.
From my observation, it's akin to Bill Maher scolding leftists for being too wacky, or Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks scolding her fellow communists for looting too many stores.
Jesus Christ said Peter was a little pebble and that He Christ is the ROCK upon which the churchb
would be built. Bible says Christ is the head of the church. Peter never even went to Rome in the bible, in fact he disappeared after a dispute with Paul and the bible never mentions him again. Paul in the other hand did onto Rome against God's directive. PAUL ended up in prison.
To add to that, Jesus Christ said there were at least 7 completely independent churches in the book of Revelation, of which 5 were scolded for wrongdoing and threatening them that if they didn't get their shit together, their church would be taken from them.
And also in Mark 9:38:
And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part. 41For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
John the apostle said "hey these guys over there are starting their own church can we stop them?" and Jesus said "no".
Catholics didn't abduct Peter, Christ chose him. Matthew 16:18. From then until today there has been an unbroken line of disciples who have filled the seat of Peter otherwise known as Popes. Flawed, yes? Sinless, no? Vigano, is rightfully calling out Jorge Bergoglio to resign.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
According to John 8:31-32, all Christians are disciples.
If you actually meant "apostles", Acts 1:22 explains what an apostle was, that there was only 12 of them, minus one who needed to be replaced.
Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
The rules of being an apostle were laid out to be
with the 11 apostles from the time John was baptizing until the time Jesus ascended to heaven on the Mt. of Olives
actually witnessed the resurrection
No Catholic popes were apostles by that definition, and regardless of the catholic gross misinterpretation of Matthew 16:18, Peter was not the first pope.
Vigano is protesting the catholic church, and by catholic church definition Vigano is no longer a catholic because he was excommunicated. He is a protestant.
My arguments referenced actual scripture. If you have some counter-point to debunk my points, I'd expect it to come from the only material we both agree is legitimate, the 66 canonical books of the Bible.
There is no "true pope". There's no call in the Bible for a "pope" to exist.
The notion that Catholics have abducted Peter into role of "pope" and thinking they developed pedigreed lineage of flawless, sinless popes that weren't at all flawed until the advent of social media, and hold the patent on Christianity to the exclusion of all who protest (i.e. protestants), is ridiculous.
This comment is not directed towards CMAnon. It's more directed at people who place Vigano on a pedestal because he has taken baby steps towards protesting the Catholic church and therefore became a better Catholic, instead of a better Protestant.
From my observation, it's akin to Bill Maher scolding leftists for being too wacky, or Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks scolding her fellow communists for looting too many stores.
Jesus Christ said Peter was a little pebble and that He Christ is the ROCK upon which the churchb would be built. Bible says Christ is the head of the church. Peter never even went to Rome in the bible, in fact he disappeared after a dispute with Paul and the bible never mentions him again. Paul in the other hand did onto Rome against God's directive. PAUL ended up in prison.
Which bible are you quoting this from? "Jesus Christ said Peter was a little pebble and that He Christ is the ROCK upon which the church"
I agree.
To add to that, Jesus Christ said there were at least 7 completely independent churches in the book of Revelation, of which 5 were scolded for wrongdoing and threatening them that if they didn't get their shit together, their church would be taken from them.
And also in Mark 9:38:
John the apostle said "hey these guys over there are starting their own church can we stop them?" and Jesus said "no".
Catholics didn't abduct Peter, Christ chose him. Matthew 16:18. From then until today there has been an unbroken line of disciples who have filled the seat of Peter otherwise known as Popes. Flawed, yes? Sinless, no? Vigano, is rightfully calling out Jorge Bergoglio to resign.
"unbroken line of disciples"
This is what Jesus actually says:
According to John 8:31-32, all Christians are disciples.
If you actually meant "apostles", Acts 1:22 explains what an apostle was, that there was only 12 of them, minus one who needed to be replaced.
The rules of being an apostle were laid out to be
with the 11 apostles from the time John was baptizing until the time Jesus ascended to heaven on the Mt. of Olives
actually witnessed the resurrection
No Catholic popes were apostles by that definition, and regardless of the catholic gross misinterpretation of Matthew 16:18, Peter was not the first pope.
Vigano is protesting the catholic church, and by catholic church definition Vigano is no longer a catholic because he was excommunicated. He is a protestant.
This might bring some clarity regarding the successors of Peter.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/peter-and-his-successors
My arguments referenced actual scripture. If you have some counter-point to debunk my points, I'd expect it to come from the only material we both agree is legitimate, the 66 canonical books of the Bible.