I often wondered how an incorporated municipality (town or city) can arbitrarily create "ordinances" and then legally enforce them.
Incorporated Municiple ordinances are not law even if they read the same as a state statute.
An ordinance might read, if the grass on a lawn within the Town limits exceeds 6 inches in growth, the renter or owner of said property will be subject to a fine of $500 and $59 a day until the lawn is maintained according to City ordinance 173.2.
I understand that as a resident or a traveler within any one of the 50 states of the union that that person is subject to the Constitution of that State and its statutes, which where duly written, debated on and voted in by the "Law Makers" we call Congressmen and Senators. But a corporately owned territory, with it's own privately owned enforcement units, have no Constitutional basis for arrest, detainment, issuance of fines or confiscation of property.
The only constitutionally provided "Statute" Enforcement agency within any given state is the County Sheriff and his deputies. Sheriff is an office of the state that lies directly under the Governor. Each county within a state has one top dog and that is Sheriff, an office that is decided by the voters of said county.
Someone please explain to me how this tyranny of corporately owned cops in every village, enforcing corporate ordinances, is allowed by the real courts and tolerated by "we the people"!
All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.
I often wondered how an incorporated municipality (town or city) can arbitrarily create "ordinances" and then legally enforce them.
Incorporated Municiple ordinances are not law even if they read the same as a state statute.
An ordinance might read, if the grass on a lawn within the Town limits exceeds 6 inches in growth, the renter or owner of said property will be subject to a fine of $500 and $59 a day until the lawn is maintained according to City ordinance 173.2.
I understand that as a resident or a traveler within any one of the 50 states of the union that that person is subject to the Constitution of that State and its statutes, which where duly written, debated on and voted in by the "Law Makers" we call Congressmen and Senators. But a corporately owned territory, with it's own privately owned enforcement units, have no Constitutional basis for arrest, detainment, issuance of fines or confiscation of property.
The only constitutionally provided "Statute" Enforcement agency within any given state is the County Sheriff and his deputies. Sheriff is an office of the state that lies directly under the Governor. Each county within a state has one top dog and that is Sheriff, an office that is decided by the voters of said county.
Someone please explain to me how this tyranny of corporately owned cops in every village, enforcing corporate ordinances, is allowed by the real courts and tolerated by "we the people"!
All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
It is flagrant criminal extortion.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.