All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
Yes. This appears to be lawfully and Constitutionally correct if you can get a Federal Judge and sheriff to actually enforce the LAW. Problem is that all Obama-appointed Federal judges have no oaths so they cannot be charged with treason, intentionally, only fraud. They are intentionally violating the Constitution and not enforcing the LAW, but do not wish to be executed for treason.
State courts are all corporate courts and you may have waived Const rights via “user agreement” with DMV corporation when you registered which is also unconstitutional. Fed courts are still reluctant to intervene within states and enforce sovereign authority. 7-1-24 stripping of immunity for “unofficial acts” of Executive Branch (Article II) flows down to local city corps. City corp and county corp owned by state corp domiciled in DC. State corps owned by US Treasury which is under Executive Branch.
“Unofficial act” is any act that is based on a nonlaw or is unconstitutional. On 6-28-24 Chevron doctrine strikedown made ~95% of all Federal rules and regulations unlawful as well as all “admin courts” unlawful per violation of sep of powers (reinforced on 6-27-24 Jarkesy ruling, see W. Virginia v EPA 2022?). Federal courts are still formerly defining “official acts” vs “unofficial acts” due to newness of ruling, but likely to be “all things not laws” are “unofficial”.
You could sue ProSe ($405 filing fee) and argue that the court is “administrative Article II court” that is unlawful and judge has no immunity per 7-1 SCOTUS. If you hire a lawyer it likely will cost $10k and looks 50/50 unless you issue “30 day notice of liabilty” via certified mail to judge demanding refund and stripping judge of “intent defense”.
Man, I have got to get my mind wrapped around this stuff.
I understand fragments of it and parts of the general concept, but it seems like something that needs to be known and understood well before trying to wade into the waters..
I’m a bit sad that Dave Jose was teaching this four years ago, and I knew about him then, but didn’t know he was teaching it.
I wish I had deep enough pockets to do it, just to be an ass and start a precedence.
I'm still confused as to what court I would file this with, which Federal court would even hear a case on civil fraud and extortion under duress with the 203x statutory damages, is that Federal Statute and if so, which court would even hear such a case?
Yes. I believe it is Fed civil fraud statute I don’t know the number. You would file in Federal District Court that has jurisdiction over where violation occurred. Courts have ruled previously that maximum civil fraud penalty permitted is 3x actual, 200x punitive; i don’t know citation on that at the moment. It appears to be established precedent and possibly is in statute now.
You have to show in filings/arguements:
Standing
Jurisdiction-ref statute/affidavit
Violation with No Immunity-signed affidavit, Notice of Liability, ref 7-1 SCOTUS ruling on Trump immunity
Claimed damages-receipt of paid fine
Remedy-request 3x actual 200x punitive; Motion for summary judgment with remedy once above all done and Defendants motions to dismiss are defeated
She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.
All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
Yes. This appears to be lawfully and Constitutionally correct if you can get a Federal Judge and sheriff to actually enforce the LAW. Problem is that all Obama-appointed Federal judges have no oaths so they cannot be charged with treason, intentionally, only fraud. They are intentionally violating the Constitution and not enforcing the LAW, but do not wish to be executed for treason.
State courts are all corporate courts and you may have waived Const rights via “user agreement” with DMV corporation when you registered which is also unconstitutional. Fed courts are still reluctant to intervene within states and enforce sovereign authority. 7-1-24 stripping of immunity for “unofficial acts” of Executive Branch (Article II) flows down to local city corps. City corp and county corp owned by state corp domiciled in DC. State corps owned by US Treasury which is under Executive Branch.
“Unofficial act” is any act that is based on a nonlaw or is unconstitutional. On 6-28-24 Chevron doctrine strikedown made ~95% of all Federal rules and regulations unlawful as well as all “admin courts” unlawful per violation of sep of powers (reinforced on 6-27-24 Jarkesy ruling, see W. Virginia v EPA 2022?). Federal courts are still formerly defining “official acts” vs “unofficial acts” due to newness of ruling, but likely to be “all things not laws” are “unofficial”.
https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/alerts/2024/06/supreme-court-limits-the-scope-of-administrative-proceedings
You could sue ProSe ($405 filing fee) and argue that the court is “administrative Article II court” that is unlawful and judge has no immunity per 7-1 SCOTUS. If you hire a lawyer it likely will cost $10k and looks 50/50 unless you issue “30 day notice of liabilty” via certified mail to judge demanding refund and stripping judge of “intent defense”.
Sort of like how Obama messed up the oath then retook it in private, allegedly.
Man, I have got to get my mind wrapped around this stuff.
I understand fragments of it and parts of the general concept, but it seems like something that needs to be known and understood well before trying to wade into the waters..
I’m a bit sad that Dave Jose was teaching this four years ago, and I knew about him then, but didn’t know he was teaching it.
I wish I had deep enough pockets to do it, just to be an ass and start a precedence.
I'm still confused as to what court I would file this with, which Federal court would even hear a case on civil fraud and extortion under duress with the 203x statutory damages, is that Federal Statute and if so, which court would even hear such a case?
Yes. I believe it is Fed civil fraud statute I don’t know the number. You would file in Federal District Court that has jurisdiction over where violation occurred. Courts have ruled previously that maximum civil fraud penalty permitted is 3x actual, 200x punitive; i don’t know citation on that at the moment. It appears to be established precedent and possibly is in statute now.
You have to show in filings/arguements:
Standing
Jurisdiction-ref statute/affidavit
Violation with No Immunity-signed affidavit, Notice of Liability, ref 7-1 SCOTUS ruling on Trump immunity
Claimed damages-receipt of paid fine
Remedy-request 3x actual 200x punitive; Motion for summary judgment with remedy once above all done and Defendants motions to dismiss are defeated
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
It is flagrant criminal extortion.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.