I often wondered how an incorporated municipality (town or city) can arbitrarily create "ordinances" and then legally enforce them.
Incorporated Municiple ordinances are not law even if they read the same as a state statute.
An ordinance might read, if the grass on a lawn within the Town limits exceeds 6 inches in growth, the renter or owner of said property will be subject to a fine of $500 and $59 a day until the lawn is maintained according to City ordinance 173.2.
I understand that as a resident or a traveler within any one of the 50 states of the union that that person is subject to the Constitution of that State and its statutes, which where duly written, debated on and voted in by the "Law Makers" we call Congressmen and Senators. But a corporately owned territory, with it's own privately owned enforcement units, have no Constitutional basis for arrest, detainment, issuance of fines or confiscation of property.
The only constitutionally provided "Statute" Enforcement agency within any given state is the County Sheriff and his deputies. Sheriff is an office of the state that lies directly under the Governor. Each county within a state has one top dog and that is Sheriff, an office that is decided by the voters of said county.
Someone please explain to me how this tyranny of corporately owned cops in every village, enforcing corporate ordinances, is allowed by the real courts and tolerated by "we the people"!
All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
Yes. This appears to be lawfully and Constitutionally correct if you can get a Federal Judge and sheriff to actually enforce the LAW. Problem is that all Obama-appointed Federal judges have no oaths so they cannot be charged with treason, intentionally, only fraud. They are intentionally violating the Constitution and not enforcing the LAW, but do not wish to be executed for treason.
State courts are all corporate courts and you may have waived Const rights via “user agreement” with DMV corporation when you registered which is also unconstitutional. Fed courts are still reluctant to intervene within states and enforce sovereign authority. 7-1-24 stripping of immunity for “unofficial acts” of Executive Branch (Article II) flows down to local city corps. City corp and county corp owned by state corp domiciled in DC. State corps owned by US Treasury which is under Executive Branch.
“Unofficial act” is any act that is based on a nonlaw or is unconstitutional. On 6-28-24 Chevron doctrine strikedown made ~95% of all Federal rules and regulations unlawful as well as all “admin courts” unlawful per violation of sep of powers (reinforced on 6-27-24 Jarkesy ruling, see W. Virginia v EPA 2022?). Federal courts are still formerly defining “official acts” vs “unofficial acts” due to newness of ruling, but likely to be “all things not laws” are “unofficial”.
You could sue ProSe ($405 filing fee) and argue that the court is “administrative Article II court” that is unlawful and judge has no immunity per 7-1 SCOTUS. If you hire a lawyer it likely will cost $10k and looks 50/50 unless you issue “30 day notice of liabilty” via certified mail to judge demanding refund and stripping judge of “intent defense”.
Man, I have got to get my mind wrapped around this stuff.
I understand fragments of it and parts of the general concept, but it seems like something that needs to be known and understood well before trying to wade into the waters..
I’m a bit sad that Dave Jose was teaching this four years ago, and I knew about him then, but didn’t know he was teaching it.
I wish I had deep enough pockets to do it, just to be an ass and start a precedence.
I'm still confused as to what court I would file this with, which Federal court would even hear a case on civil fraud and extortion under duress with the 203x statutory damages, is that Federal Statute and if so, which court would even hear such a case?
She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.
By people placing themselves, albeit unintentionally by tacit agreement to the Stat’s deception, in corporate jurisdiction. Claiming to be a person, resident, individual, Citizen, or other associated legal term, other than a living soul, along with the contracts you sign, put you in corporate jurisdiction. This is a very high level general description. The deception goes much deeper and removing yourself from corporate jurisdiction requires more than just you deciding and verbally stating such.
Keep in mind that a living soul cannot legally contract with a fictitious entity such as a corporation so we are deceived into accepting corporate status and living as one. This is the corporate legal system that our founding fathers fought to escape from. That is why privacy was so important to them.
I often wondered how an incorporated municipality (town or city) can arbitrarily create "ordinances" and then legally enforce them.
Incorporated Municiple ordinances are not law even if they read the same as a state statute.
An ordinance might read, if the grass on a lawn within the Town limits exceeds 6 inches in growth, the renter or owner of said property will be subject to a fine of $500 and $59 a day until the lawn is maintained according to City ordinance 173.2.
I understand that as a resident or a traveler within any one of the 50 states of the union that that person is subject to the Constitution of that State and its statutes, which where duly written, debated on and voted in by the "Law Makers" we call Congressmen and Senators. But a corporately owned territory, with it's own privately owned enforcement units, have no Constitutional basis for arrest, detainment, issuance of fines or confiscation of property.
The only constitutionally provided "Statute" Enforcement agency within any given state is the County Sheriff and his deputies. Sheriff is an office of the state that lies directly under the Governor. Each county within a state has one top dog and that is Sheriff, an office that is decided by the voters of said county.
Someone please explain to me how this tyranny of corporately owned cops in every village, enforcing corporate ordinances, is allowed by the real courts and tolerated by "we the people"!
All voluntary and unenforceable, but now also litigatable as civil fraud with 203x statutory damages [3x actual, 200x punitive] with personal liabilty (no immunity) for employee issuing fine. Bad news is you have to pay the fine as coerced theft (extortion under duress) to have Federal District Court standing per Part3 of SCOTUS standing test for “actual damages” rather “theoretical damages”. [Lujen v Defenders of Wildlife (1992): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lujan_v._Defenders_of_Wildlife]
Alternatively, ignore and goad dumb municipal people into taking actions against you while you record everything for later litigation. Issue “notice of liabilty” with affidavit of action (time, date, location, action, individual) via certified mail after each action to build papertrail.
ok, a month or so back I got pulled over for not having an up-to-date sticker on my license plate. Some low life stole it off my license plate and the cop said he could not find my registry in his computer.
I went to the DMV and they said I was good thru 2025 and gave me a new sticker and then charged me 7 bucks for a print-out that i could take to court which proved my registration was valid.
I went to the false court where the "judge" was also the prosecutor, and I provided my proof of innocence. She said she would vacate the charges but I would still have to pay $48 in court costs within 30 days or I would be found guilty and the full fine would be imposed.
I thought this was bullshit but I paid it just to make it go away, fighting over 50 bucks out of principle would cost me more in time and aggravation than the worth of a bit of fiat currency.
If I hear you correctly, are you saying I have standing under Federal court to make that pseudo judge personally liable for $146 actual and $9600 in punitive damages?
Yes. This appears to be lawfully and Constitutionally correct if you can get a Federal Judge and sheriff to actually enforce the LAW. Problem is that all Obama-appointed Federal judges have no oaths so they cannot be charged with treason, intentionally, only fraud. They are intentionally violating the Constitution and not enforcing the LAW, but do not wish to be executed for treason.
State courts are all corporate courts and you may have waived Const rights via “user agreement” with DMV corporation when you registered which is also unconstitutional. Fed courts are still reluctant to intervene within states and enforce sovereign authority. 7-1-24 stripping of immunity for “unofficial acts” of Executive Branch (Article II) flows down to local city corps. City corp and county corp owned by state corp domiciled in DC. State corps owned by US Treasury which is under Executive Branch.
“Unofficial act” is any act that is based on a nonlaw or is unconstitutional. On 6-28-24 Chevron doctrine strikedown made ~95% of all Federal rules and regulations unlawful as well as all “admin courts” unlawful per violation of sep of powers (reinforced on 6-27-24 Jarkesy ruling, see W. Virginia v EPA 2022?). Federal courts are still formerly defining “official acts” vs “unofficial acts” due to newness of ruling, but likely to be “all things not laws” are “unofficial”.
https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/alerts/2024/06/supreme-court-limits-the-scope-of-administrative-proceedings
You could sue ProSe ($405 filing fee) and argue that the court is “administrative Article II court” that is unlawful and judge has no immunity per 7-1 SCOTUS. If you hire a lawyer it likely will cost $10k and looks 50/50 unless you issue “30 day notice of liabilty” via certified mail to judge demanding refund and stripping judge of “intent defense”.
Sort of like how Obama messed up the oath then retook it in private, allegedly.
Man, I have got to get my mind wrapped around this stuff.
I understand fragments of it and parts of the general concept, but it seems like something that needs to be known and understood well before trying to wade into the waters..
I’m a bit sad that Dave Jose was teaching this four years ago, and I knew about him then, but didn’t know he was teaching it.
I wish I had deep enough pockets to do it, just to be an ass and start a precedence.
I'm still confused as to what court I would file this with, which Federal court would even hear a case on civil fraud and extortion under duress with the 203x statutory damages, is that Federal Statute and if so, which court would even hear such a case?
Sounds like criminal extortion to me. Why would you be innocent unless you fail to pay? You're either innocent or you aren't.
It is flagrant criminal extortion.
She was basically saying, fine, you have proof of your innocence but if you don't pay half the fine, I'll find you guilty and charge you more than double what I'm extorting out of you today.
It's not tolerated by the likes of us but you are proving how corrupt our courts are with your questions...
It’s still tolerated by the likes of me who is trying to figure out how to switch modes of operation!
I’m intolerant of the concept of it, though.
By people placing themselves, albeit unintentionally by tacit agreement to the Stat’s deception, in corporate jurisdiction. Claiming to be a person, resident, individual, Citizen, or other associated legal term, other than a living soul, along with the contracts you sign, put you in corporate jurisdiction. This is a very high level general description. The deception goes much deeper and removing yourself from corporate jurisdiction requires more than just you deciding and verbally stating such.
Keep in mind that a living soul cannot legally contract with a fictitious entity such as a corporation so we are deceived into accepting corporate status and living as one. This is the corporate legal system that our founding fathers fought to escape from. That is why privacy was so important to them.
It's like being in an HOA without our consent.
Eddie Craig has interesting thoughts on ordinances:
https://tao-of-law.com/2016/03/16/state-constitutions-vs-ordinances-who-has-the-legitimate-power-to-make-binding-public-law-in-your-republic/