You bring up an interesting point about focusing on self-love and love of countrymen, and I agree that societies do thrive when they embrace a shared sense of purpose.
However, I think it's important to redefine what we mean by diversity, and I'd argue that "Economic Diversity" is a more powerful concept than "Cultural Diversity" when it comes to driving progress and improving quality of life.
Take America, for example. What has made the country thrive historically is not just cultural or ethnic diversity but economic diversity—the presence of a wide range of entrepreneurs and innovators from all over the world, bringing different skills, ideas, and approaches to the same economic ecosystem. It’s not about everyone having the same ethnic background or cultural heritage; it's about people from different walks of life contributing unique economic value.
Entrepreneurs, whether they come from different ethnic backgrounds or not, are the ones responsible for improving the quality of life. They create jobs, innovate in technology, and find new ways to solve old problems. In America, we’ve seen that having a diverse pool of entrepreneurs—whether they’re in tech, medicine, finance, or small business—creates a synergy that no homogenous group can compete with. A country that fosters a wide range of economic activity, fueled by entrepreneurs from all over the world, has a significant advantage over one that relies on a single group with a singular worldview.
You asked for an example of where diversity increased human progress, and I’d point to the American economy itself. The U.S. is a global economic powerhouse precisely because it has welcomed entrepreneurs from different parts of the world—whether it’s immigrants founding iconic companies like Google, Tesla, or Pfizer. These aren’t successes born out of ethnic diversity for its own sake but out of economic diversity: people with different perspectives coming together to create something bigger than they could have done individually.
When you focus on fostering a community of entrepreneurs, you don’t just encourage collaboration across ethnic lines; you create an environment where different ideas and innovations compete and evolve. This is what drives human progress—economic cooperation and competition among people with different skills, experiences, and expertise. No single, homogenous group can replicate the dynamism that comes from a diverse set of economic actors working toward a common goal.
As for the post-WW2 era and universalism, I understand your concerns. But I’d argue that the challenges we’re facing today are not due to a failure of universalism but rather the lack of focus on economic opportunity and innovation. It’s not just about “identity politics” or ethnic division; it’s about ensuring that everyone, regardless of their background, can contribute economically and improve their lives through entrepreneurship and innovation.
In the end, reducing conflict isn’t about promoting or rejecting ethnocentrism—it’s about fostering economic diversity and creating a society where people from different backgrounds can collaborate and compete in ways that lift everyone up. That’s the real key to less conflict and more prosperity.
Do you enjoy America as it is today? Is that why you’re on a site called the Great Awakening? America’s success largely comes from its marriage of English people and Germanic peoples. Otherwise known as Western European people, who primarily account for a majority of human advancement whether you like it or not. I’m not impressed with the high IQ foreign nationals here to loot the empire. Anyone can do that and it’s the sign of society in decline. America was like 80% white as recently as the 90s and I think you can agree that it’s been in decline since.
Do you think the diversity of our society has been good for it? Are you more well connected to your local community than you were in the 90s? Do you think our society is healthier today? Are you connected to a local church? Is it thriving? Do you think our society is more divided than it ever has been? When you look at the future of America, do you have more hope for it today? Or in the 90s?
I hope you think of this conversation in the future when you realize that you’re completely and totally wrong. I hope you enjoy continuing to be the shock troop for the current world order as it gets destroyed around you. Have a good day, boomer.
Take America, for example. What has made the country thrive historically is not just cultural or ethnic diversity but economic diversity ...
What you are ignoring is that America was built on White power.
All that "cultural or ethnic diversity" to which you refer that BUILT America were people from EUROPE.
The Mexicans played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
The Somalis played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
The Chinese played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
I can understand why non-Whites want to live in White countires. It's because they benefit greatly.
BUT ...
Whites have been nothing but harmed by the invasion of non-Whites.
The schools are MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
The economic progress is MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
The prosperity is MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
Google, Tesla, or Pfizer
All 3 of these companies were built on government largesse, not on free market enterprise.
As true capitalism, which America was built on, has been replaced with a corrupt cronyism, it is not surprising that these 3 companies, in particular, became "successful" entirely on the backs of government gibs.
Google - built on grants from CIA and NSA (gee, I wonder what that means ...)
Tesla - without tax credits and government gibs, Tesla never would have gotten off the ground
Pfizer - a monoply on certain drugs, with a government preventing you from suing them when they harm you or your loved ones.
THIS. IS. NOT. CAPITALISM.
This is a slice of big government taking over your life.
So, it does not support your thesis.
This type of government dominance in our lives is not better than early America.
Early America was based upon certain fundamental and commonly-held beliefs, which have largely been destroyed by people who lack those beliefs ... BECAUSE THEY ARE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
This is the reason we have so much division today.
The diversity of cultures -- that are of different ethnicities -- is a problem, not a solution.
And if you find that statement repulsive, it only proves how much our modern society has been destroyed by harmful new ideas (which never existed before) via societal programming.
I want you to explain to me.
What the hell is WHITE power?
White Labors (Machine Workers, Steel Mill Workers, etc)
White Marketers (Advertising, Marketing, Sales)
White Inventors (Vision and Idea, this is not implementation of an idea)
White Finance (Typically don't have the idea, they invest in the idea)
The person who builds the most allies in life is always better off.
On the other hand, the person who creates the most enemies will suffer for it.
Viewing the world solely through a racial or group lens will inevitably condition you to see others as enemies. But I’m here to tell you, as a Black man, I am not your enemy.
However, if you continue to look at the world racially, you increase the chances of viewing me as a threat. Let’s put this into perspective: there are roughly 40 million Black people in America. By framing them as enemies, you're only adding unnecessary conflict to your life.
If I want to drive through your neighborhood to find a place to eat, that doesn’t threaten your cultural values or upbringing. The two are completely unrelated.
In fact, many white Americans are already a blend of different European backgrounds—German, Irish, Russian, and so on.
If someone of mixed German and Russian heritage can teach their children about both cultures, why can’t a family with mixed African and German backgrounds do the same?
It's about celebrating both, not erasing one.
I’m not here to insult or attack your views.
I just know that implementing any race-based ideology increases government policing and control—precisely what powerful elites want.
When we focus too much on race, we lose sight of the bigger picture: unity, freedom, and the ability to choose our own paths without unnecessary divisions.
You bring up an interesting point about focusing on self-love and love of countrymen, and I agree that societies do thrive when they embrace a shared sense of purpose.
However, I think it's important to redefine what we mean by diversity, and I'd argue that "Economic Diversity" is a more powerful concept than "Cultural Diversity" when it comes to driving progress and improving quality of life.
Take America, for example. What has made the country thrive historically is not just cultural or ethnic diversity but economic diversity—the presence of a wide range of entrepreneurs and innovators from all over the world, bringing different skills, ideas, and approaches to the same economic ecosystem. It’s not about everyone having the same ethnic background or cultural heritage; it's about people from different walks of life contributing unique economic value.
Entrepreneurs, whether they come from different ethnic backgrounds or not, are the ones responsible for improving the quality of life. They create jobs, innovate in technology, and find new ways to solve old problems. In America, we’ve seen that having a diverse pool of entrepreneurs—whether they’re in tech, medicine, finance, or small business—creates a synergy that no homogenous group can compete with. A country that fosters a wide range of economic activity, fueled by entrepreneurs from all over the world, has a significant advantage over one that relies on a single group with a singular worldview.
You asked for an example of where diversity increased human progress, and I’d point to the American economy itself. The U.S. is a global economic powerhouse precisely because it has welcomed entrepreneurs from different parts of the world—whether it’s immigrants founding iconic companies like Google, Tesla, or Pfizer. These aren’t successes born out of ethnic diversity for its own sake but out of economic diversity: people with different perspectives coming together to create something bigger than they could have done individually.
When you focus on fostering a community of entrepreneurs, you don’t just encourage collaboration across ethnic lines; you create an environment where different ideas and innovations compete and evolve. This is what drives human progress—economic cooperation and competition among people with different skills, experiences, and expertise. No single, homogenous group can replicate the dynamism that comes from a diverse set of economic actors working toward a common goal.
As for the post-WW2 era and universalism, I understand your concerns. But I’d argue that the challenges we’re facing today are not due to a failure of universalism but rather the lack of focus on economic opportunity and innovation. It’s not just about “identity politics” or ethnic division; it’s about ensuring that everyone, regardless of their background, can contribute economically and improve their lives through entrepreneurship and innovation.
In the end, reducing conflict isn’t about promoting or rejecting ethnocentrism—it’s about fostering economic diversity and creating a society where people from different backgrounds can collaborate and compete in ways that lift everyone up. That’s the real key to less conflict and more prosperity.
Do you enjoy America as it is today? Is that why you’re on a site called the Great Awakening? America’s success largely comes from its marriage of English people and Germanic peoples. Otherwise known as Western European people, who primarily account for a majority of human advancement whether you like it or not. I’m not impressed with the high IQ foreign nationals here to loot the empire. Anyone can do that and it’s the sign of society in decline. America was like 80% white as recently as the 90s and I think you can agree that it’s been in decline since.
Do you think the diversity of our society has been good for it? Are you more well connected to your local community than you were in the 90s? Do you think our society is healthier today? Are you connected to a local church? Is it thriving? Do you think our society is more divided than it ever has been? When you look at the future of America, do you have more hope for it today? Or in the 90s?
What non white innovators have you researched?
I hope you think of this conversation in the future when you realize that you’re completely and totally wrong. I hope you enjoy continuing to be the shock troop for the current world order as it gets destroyed around you. Have a good day, boomer.
Then why don't I have "Racial" Tribalist thoughts? I grew up with white, blacks and hispanics.
So why don't I have it?
LOL!
Yes it is being destroyed. So are you suggesting that America is heading towards JIM CROW again?
You know.. whites over here. Blacks over there?
What are you suggesting here?
Is Trump promoting returning back to Jim Crow??
Trump and Elon both had said.
They support LEGAL IMMIGRATION that has a VETTING process.
Let me ask you the same question I asked someone else.
How many black people do you have real bonds with? That you spend time together doing things?
You evaded his questions.
What you are ignoring is that America was built on White power.
All that "cultural or ethnic diversity" to which you refer that BUILT America were people from EUROPE.
The Mexicans played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
The Somalis played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
The Chinese played NO PART in 18th-19th century America.
I can understand why non-Whites want to live in White countires. It's because they benefit greatly.
BUT ...
Whites have been nothing but harmed by the invasion of non-Whites.
The schools are MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
The economic progress is MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
The prosperity is MUCH WORSE today than in 18th-19th century America.
All 3 of these companies were built on government largesse, not on free market enterprise.
As true capitalism, which America was built on, has been replaced with a corrupt cronyism, it is not surprising that these 3 companies, in particular, became "successful" entirely on the backs of government gibs.
Google - built on grants from CIA and NSA (gee, I wonder what that means ...)
Tesla - without tax credits and government gibs, Tesla never would have gotten off the ground
Pfizer - a monoply on certain drugs, with a government preventing you from suing them when they harm you or your loved ones.
THIS. IS. NOT. CAPITALISM.
This is a slice of big government taking over your life.
So, it does not support your thesis.
This type of government dominance in our lives is not better than early America.
Early America was based upon certain fundamental and commonly-held beliefs, which have largely been destroyed by people who lack those beliefs ... BECAUSE THEY ARE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
This is the reason we have so much division today.
The diversity of cultures -- that are of different ethnicities -- is a problem, not a solution.
And if you find that statement repulsive, it only proves how much our modern society has been destroyed by harmful new ideas (which never existed before) via societal programming.
Seriously..
I want you to explain to me. What the hell is WHITE power?
White Labors (Machine Workers, Steel Mill Workers, etc) White Marketers (Advertising, Marketing, Sales) White Inventors (Vision and Idea, this is not implementation of an idea) White Finance (Typically don't have the idea, they invest in the idea)
Who gets credit for BUILDING America here?
Are you black?
yes
What the FUCK is White power dude?
Are you fucking kidding me????
BULLSHIT!
Let's talk about STRUCTURE!
You have IDEAS and IMPLEMENTATION of those ideas.
99% of soceity serves as ADMINISTRATOR or LABOR roles. Look at an INCOME STATEMENT.
The 1% are finance and entrepreneur types.
When you say build on white power.
WHO are you referring to?
The IDEA creator like Henry Ford
or
The Worker (ADMINSTRATOR) or (LABOR)?
Who gets credit for building something? Please define that?
We have divison today because the MEDIA is using PROPAGANDA!
Ok.,..how many blacks and whites are fighting each other at the work place? The earliest place that real division would show up.
Is when people have to work with each other on teams.
How many organized team activities do you see diferent ethnic groups fighting with each other?
As in being ... FORCED ... to do so?
I'll leave you with this thought:
The person who builds the most allies in life is always better off. On the other hand, the person who creates the most enemies will suffer for it.
Viewing the world solely through a racial or group lens will inevitably condition you to see others as enemies. But I’m here to tell you, as a Black man, I am not your enemy.
However, if you continue to look at the world racially, you increase the chances of viewing me as a threat. Let’s put this into perspective: there are roughly 40 million Black people in America. By framing them as enemies, you're only adding unnecessary conflict to your life.
If I want to drive through your neighborhood to find a place to eat, that doesn’t threaten your cultural values or upbringing. The two are completely unrelated.
In fact, many white Americans are already a blend of different European backgrounds—German, Irish, Russian, and so on.
If someone of mixed German and Russian heritage can teach their children about both cultures, why can’t a family with mixed African and German backgrounds do the same?
It's about celebrating both, not erasing one.
I’m not here to insult or attack your views.
I just know that implementing any race-based ideology increases government policing and control—precisely what powerful elites want.
When we focus too much on race, we lose sight of the bigger picture: unity, freedom, and the ability to choose our own paths without unnecessary divisions.
The problem with thinking in terms of race. You cannot do any forms of it without POLICING people to comply.
This is the reason why the CABAL pushes racial narratives.
For example:
I am a black man. I have an attraction for white red hair women who don't wear a lot of makeup.
They are rare and I find them the most attractive as a personal choice.
NOW!
How do you prevent me from approaching her? You would need the POLICE to FORCE me to stay away.
That's why RACE in general is always a CABAL concept.
Forget the idea for a momemt.
Ask yourself.
How do you ENFORCE some race base system WITHOUT the government and police state?
Sure.. you can make it optional and by choice.
But your problems will be with men like me. I am CURIOUS to talk to various groups of people to LEARN something new.
Learn something about their art, music, food, etc. I can then seek to incorporate some of my ideas into my own life.
No because each company has a hiring process.
When Jackie Robinson played Baseball. He was ok with playing in the Nergo League.
A white man watched the negro league play.
He saw GREAT talent.
The white man wanted to bring Jackie into the all white league because he saw Talent.
This is what I am talking about here. Your racial UPTOPIA cannot stand on it's own without a POLICE STATE.
Without a police state. Whites and blacks are naturally going to cross color lines to observe each other.
That's normal man.
Haven't you noticed something about anyone pushing a racial message? They never talk about HOW do you ENFORCE the IDEA??
For Example: Over here in Chicago.
I am seeing a big uptick in White Men dating Black Women. It's noticable out here.
Ok... so you want everyone to be in their own areas.
How do you prevent that white man to stop dating that black women?
Are you now going to tell him. He cannot live in XYZ area?
If so..How to you ENFORCE that?
You would need some type of government FINES or JAIL TIME laws to enforce that.
The moment you let TRUE FREEDOM rule. Someone is going to break the rules naturally.
This is why race based thinking is flawed. The idea itself doesn't bother me.
The IMPLEMENTATION of the idea will ALWAYS lead to a police state and war.