I don't owe or borrow money so quit bearing false witness and repent of that.
Remind me if King David was rich?
You are the one lecturing from an unbiblical position.
I'm asking you to back up your position with scripture.
Most of my giving is anonymous. Funding adoptions isn't tax deductible.
Oh and PS.... I was homeless over 20 years ago before I came to Christ. Recently God blessed me abundantly for saving the lives, jobs, and freedoms of countless Christians and patriots.
King David existed inside of a monarchy that also had a just and righteous king. It's not accurate to compare yourself to him. The Bible says it's difficult for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven. I'm not a rich man and that allows me carte blanche in my assessment of rich men.
Do you have interest bearing accounts?
Do you collect rent?
Do you have static revenue?
Do you exploit your workers?
Do you exploit your tenants?
Don't play word games with me. You're not gonna sit there and be like "I'm debt free" while you have accounts making interest. "I don't believe in usury" but does your company or companies in any form at all in any sense whatsoever have a loan with any bank or financial institution or provide assets for a financial institution to utilize?
You were a king but now you're working
Your employees were kings too but now they're were-a-king for you.
The fact that you even consider tax deductions is a barfable offense.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
I didn't compare myself to King David you dishonest POS.
I gave you an example from scripture of how wealth isn't evil.... From a man "after God's own heart"
I'll end with a little lesson in scripture to mop you up and then we're done (or to put it more accurately, you are)
In Matthew 19:24, Jesus says: "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." On the surface, this statement seems to suggest a condemnation of wealth. However, a deeper look at Scripture shows that Jesus is not condemning wealth itself, but the dangers of wealth when it leads to idolatry, greed, and reliance on worldly things instead of God.
Here’s a broader case that Matthew 19:24 does not forbid Christians from being wealthy, supported by other Scripture:
Wealth is a Blessing from God, Not Inherently Evil
In Scripture, wealth is often depicted as a blessing from God, especially when it is used responsibly and in accordance with God's will.
Deuteronomy 8:18 – "But remember the Lord your God, for it is He who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms His covenant, which He swore to your ancestors, as it is today."
This passage highlights that wealth itself is a gift from God and can be part of His covenant blessings. God grants people the ability to acquire wealth, and it’s a sign of His favor when handled righteously.
Proverbs 10:22 – "The blessing of the Lord brings wealth, without painful toil for it."
Here, wealth is described as a blessing from the Lord, not something to be rejected outright.
Righteous People in the Bible Had Wealth
There are numerous examples of faithful men and women in the Bible who were wealthy and remained righteous before God.
Abraham – Genesis 13:2 says, "Abram had become very wealthy in livestock and in silver and gold." Abraham is one of the most important figures in the Bible, yet his wealth did not hinder his relationship with God.
Job – Job was one of the wealthiest men of his time (Job 1:3) and was still described as “blameless” and “upright.” When his wealth was taken, God restored it twofold, showing that wealth in itself wasn’t the problem, but rather how one responds to its gain and loss.
Joseph of Arimathea – He was a rich man and a disciple of Jesus (Matthew 27:57). His wealth enabled him to provide a tomb for Jesus' burial, showing how wealth can be used for good in the service of God.
The Context of Matthew 19:24
The context of this verse is the encounter between Jesus and the rich young ruler (Matthew 19:16-22). The issue here is not that the man was wealthy, but that his wealth had become an obstacle to following Christ. The man asked what he must do to have eternal life, but when Jesus told him to sell his possessions and follow Him, the man walked away sorrowful because he was unwilling to part with his wealth.
Jesus is teaching that wealth can become a spiritual hindrance when it controls one's heart. It's not the wealth itself, but the love of money that is the problem, as 1 Timothy 6:10 says, "For the love of money is the root of all evil." Christians are warned to guard against putting their trust in wealth instead of in God.
Christians Can Own Property and Employ Others
There is no biblical command that forbids Christians from owning property or employing others, as long as these are done ethically and with fairness:
Proverbs 12:11 – "Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense."
This verse implies that working and owning land, a form of property, is wise and can lead to abundance.
Ephesians 6:5-9 – This passage gives instructions to masters (employers) and slaves (employees), showing that such relationships existed and were not condemned. Instead, both parties are encouraged to treat each other with respect and fairness. In today’s context, this can be applied to employers and employees.
Proverbs 13:22 – "A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous."
This shows that a righteous person may accumulate wealth and property to pass on to future generations, further confirming that having wealth and property is not inherently sinful.
The Purpose of Wealth in a Christian Life
The Bible teaches that wealth should be used wisely, for the glory of God and the benefit of others:
1 Timothy 6:17-19 – "Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share."
This passage doesn’t condemn the rich but gives instructions on how they should use their wealth responsibly.
Acts 4:34-35 – Early Christians shared their possessions, ensuring no one was in need. While this isn’t a requirement for all believers, it demonstrates the importance of using wealth for the benefit of others.
Conclusion
Matthew 19:24 does not forbid Christians from being wealthy, but it warns against the spiritual dangers that can come with wealth if it leads to greed, idolatry, or self-reliance instead of reliance on God. Scripture shows that wealth is a blessing when used in accordance with God's will, and it is possible to be both wealthy and righteous. Christians are encouraged to be generous, ethical, and mindful of their spiritual priorities when it comes to wealth, property, and employing others. Wealth should be a tool for advancing God's kingdom, not an idol that competes with God for devotion.
Now go sit in the corner and think about all the stupid things you said.
You sure seem to focus a lot on wealth for someone who explicitly "doesn't love it"
I don't see how any of those versus disqualifies the verse in Matthew. You just keep bringing up other rich ppl in the Bible. Compare yourself to Jesus only.
I've known rich men that were given so much that they couldn't give it away fast enough. Ive known millionaires that live in their first home still and drive used cars.
Dont sit there and pretend that you don't know better. It's elitist or at least is comes off as elitist.
The last will be first and the first will be last. How you treat the least of these.....
I don't care that I'm poor. I care that you dismiss me bc of my perceived lack of success or wealth. My lack of ability to influence you other than an awe shucks kinda blessing. You know the one you get when you help a poor person and they say something kinda of wise after. That's all poor ppl are good for it seems, fortune cookie wisdom.
That and you can hire them for less (ethically and fairly) than they're worth and put them in your rental property where you can overcharge them but then you tithe 10% so now your just and righteous too!
Ah yes .... the eye of a needle
You're dismissive bc of my poverty and full of pride.
I'm poor - nothing more.
I'm the one teaching you.
You're not teaching me nothing .... let's get that clear
You think you can "mop" me up. Like dude. I'm a poor single dad. You're vastly wealthier, taller, better looking, works out, hot wife, kids that listen, a paid house, blah blah blah
Yet you have no wisdom to offer me?
No blessing?
Do you ever consider generational curses as a reason for someone's poverty? Or do you just blanket piss on poor people bc theyre obviously immoral or they'd be rich?
You're just defending the position of wealth and using wealth itself as justification for your wisdom.
You sure seem to focus a lot on wealth for someone who explicitly "doesn't love it"
It's literally what the conversations about. Should I be talking about the price of tea in China? That would be nonsensical. Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.
I'm standing on God's word. You're standing on covetness, envy, and bitterness.
All assumptions. You love making those.
I don't owe or borrow money so quit bearing false witness and repent of that.
Remind me if King David was rich?
You are the one lecturing from an unbiblical position.
I'm asking you to back up your position with scripture.
Most of my giving is anonymous. Funding adoptions isn't tax deductible.
Oh and PS.... I was homeless over 20 years ago before I came to Christ. Recently God blessed me abundantly for saving the lives, jobs, and freedoms of countless Christians and patriots.
Have a good day being bitter and envious.
King David existed inside of a monarchy that also had a just and righteous king. It's not accurate to compare yourself to him. The Bible says it's difficult for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven. I'm not a rich man and that allows me carte blanche in my assessment of rich men.
Do you have interest bearing accounts? Do you collect rent? Do you have static revenue? Do you exploit your workers? Do you exploit your tenants?
Don't play word games with me. You're not gonna sit there and be like "I'm debt free" while you have accounts making interest. "I don't believe in usury" but does your company or companies in any form at all in any sense whatsoever have a loan with any bank or financial institution or provide assets for a financial institution to utilize?
You were a king but now you're working Your employees were kings too but now they're were-a-king for you.
The fact that you even consider tax deductions is a barfable offense.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:24
I didn't compare myself to King David you dishonest POS.
I gave you an example from scripture of how wealth isn't evil.... From a man "after God's own heart"
I'll end with a little lesson in scripture to mop you up and then we're done (or to put it more accurately, you are)
In Matthew 19:24, Jesus says: "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." On the surface, this statement seems to suggest a condemnation of wealth. However, a deeper look at Scripture shows that Jesus is not condemning wealth itself, but the dangers of wealth when it leads to idolatry, greed, and reliance on worldly things instead of God.
Here’s a broader case that Matthew 19:24 does not forbid Christians from being wealthy, supported by other Scripture:
In Scripture, wealth is often depicted as a blessing from God, especially when it is used responsibly and in accordance with God's will.
Deuteronomy 8:18 – "But remember the Lord your God, for it is He who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms His covenant, which He swore to your ancestors, as it is today."
This passage highlights that wealth itself is a gift from God and can be part of His covenant blessings. God grants people the ability to acquire wealth, and it’s a sign of His favor when handled righteously.
Proverbs 10:22 – "The blessing of the Lord brings wealth, without painful toil for it."
Here, wealth is described as a blessing from the Lord, not something to be rejected outright.
There are numerous examples of faithful men and women in the Bible who were wealthy and remained righteous before God.
Abraham – Genesis 13:2 says, "Abram had become very wealthy in livestock and in silver and gold." Abraham is one of the most important figures in the Bible, yet his wealth did not hinder his relationship with God.
Job – Job was one of the wealthiest men of his time (Job 1:3) and was still described as “blameless” and “upright.” When his wealth was taken, God restored it twofold, showing that wealth in itself wasn’t the problem, but rather how one responds to its gain and loss.
Joseph of Arimathea – He was a rich man and a disciple of Jesus (Matthew 27:57). His wealth enabled him to provide a tomb for Jesus' burial, showing how wealth can be used for good in the service of God.
The context of this verse is the encounter between Jesus and the rich young ruler (Matthew 19:16-22). The issue here is not that the man was wealthy, but that his wealth had become an obstacle to following Christ. The man asked what he must do to have eternal life, but when Jesus told him to sell his possessions and follow Him, the man walked away sorrowful because he was unwilling to part with his wealth.
Jesus is teaching that wealth can become a spiritual hindrance when it controls one's heart. It's not the wealth itself, but the love of money that is the problem, as 1 Timothy 6:10 says, "For the love of money is the root of all evil." Christians are warned to guard against putting their trust in wealth instead of in God.
There is no biblical command that forbids Christians from owning property or employing others, as long as these are done ethically and with fairness:
Proverbs 12:11 – "Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense."
This verse implies that working and owning land, a form of property, is wise and can lead to abundance.
Ephesians 6:5-9 – This passage gives instructions to masters (employers) and slaves (employees), showing that such relationships existed and were not condemned. Instead, both parties are encouraged to treat each other with respect and fairness. In today’s context, this can be applied to employers and employees.
Proverbs 13:22 – "A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous."
This shows that a righteous person may accumulate wealth and property to pass on to future generations, further confirming that having wealth and property is not inherently sinful.
The Bible teaches that wealth should be used wisely, for the glory of God and the benefit of others:
1 Timothy 6:17-19 – "Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share."
This passage doesn’t condemn the rich but gives instructions on how they should use their wealth responsibly.
Acts 4:34-35 – Early Christians shared their possessions, ensuring no one was in need. While this isn’t a requirement for all believers, it demonstrates the importance of using wealth for the benefit of others.
Conclusion
Matthew 19:24 does not forbid Christians from being wealthy, but it warns against the spiritual dangers that can come with wealth if it leads to greed, idolatry, or self-reliance instead of reliance on God. Scripture shows that wealth is a blessing when used in accordance with God's will, and it is possible to be both wealthy and righteous. Christians are encouraged to be generous, ethical, and mindful of their spiritual priorities when it comes to wealth, property, and employing others. Wealth should be a tool for advancing God's kingdom, not an idol that competes with God for devotion.
Now go sit in the corner and think about all the stupid things you said.
You sure seem to focus a lot on wealth for someone who explicitly "doesn't love it"
I don't see how any of those versus disqualifies the verse in Matthew. You just keep bringing up other rich ppl in the Bible. Compare yourself to Jesus only.
I've known rich men that were given so much that they couldn't give it away fast enough. Ive known millionaires that live in their first home still and drive used cars.
Dont sit there and pretend that you don't know better. It's elitist or at least is comes off as elitist.
The last will be first and the first will be last. How you treat the least of these.....
I don't care that I'm poor. I care that you dismiss me bc of my perceived lack of success or wealth. My lack of ability to influence you other than an awe shucks kinda blessing. You know the one you get when you help a poor person and they say something kinda of wise after. That's all poor ppl are good for it seems, fortune cookie wisdom.
That and you can hire them for less (ethically and fairly) than they're worth and put them in your rental property where you can overcharge them but then you tithe 10% so now your just and righteous too!
Ah yes .... the eye of a needle
You're dismissive bc of my poverty and full of pride.
I'm poor - nothing more. I'm the one teaching you. You're not teaching me nothing .... let's get that clear
You think you can "mop" me up. Like dude. I'm a poor single dad. You're vastly wealthier, taller, better looking, works out, hot wife, kids that listen, a paid house, blah blah blah
Yet you have no wisdom to offer me? No blessing? Do you ever consider generational curses as a reason for someone's poverty? Or do you just blanket piss on poor people bc theyre obviously immoral or they'd be rich?
You're just defending the position of wealth and using wealth itself as justification for your wisdom.
That's fucking sad.
It's literally what the conversations about. Should I be talking about the price of tea in China? That would be nonsensical. Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.
I'm standing on God's word. You're standing on covetness, envy, and bitterness.
Have fun with that.