The juicy contracts on some of the labor unions drive the companies overseas, and when you consider the unions make more money if they have more people than actually required to make a product it gives them incentive to work slower and have more people hired. If you try and get rid of unproductive or "trouble" folks in a union place, well good luck with that.
I've enjoyed working with a lot of union folks, especially skilled labor. But they all will admit in a "personal setting" that the above is much of the issue. Given enough time of that system "working" (especially generationally) and now you understand how we've gotten to this point of John Deere looking to move outside the US.
Its ok to get what you can get, but some unions don't give the company their moneys worth. Dragging up is a term I have heard from Union Construction people which refers to working slow to stretch out the job.
Yeah, I remember working with a guy who had been a Ford factory worker. This was decades ago, and I think he had said he'd made 75 Bucks an Hour, but I think that was counting all the benefits.
My last long term factory Job I left at the End of 1991 and was making 10.15 an hour, with good benefits and even a pension. We weren't union, it was in Orlando, but we made a store-brand soda. Our pay was more than coke, but less than Pepsi. That was big money in Orlando at that time. Disney kept wages low in Orlando. Still lower there than Here in Nashville. Pay for my type of work middle of the road is top pay in Orlando, but rent is somewhat higher here and Sales tax too, and they even tax food in the grocery.
The juicy contracts on some of the labor unions drive the companies overseas, and when you consider the unions make more money if they have more people than actually required to make a product it gives them incentive to work slower and have more people hired. If you try and get rid of unproductive or "trouble" folks in a union place, well good luck with that. I've enjoyed working with a lot of union folks, especially skilled labor. But they all will admit in a "personal setting" that the above is much of the issue. Given enough time of that system "working" (especially generationally) and now you understand how we've gotten to this point of John Deere looking to move outside the US.
Its ok to get what you can get, but some unions don't give the company their moneys worth. Dragging up is a term I have heard from Union Construction people which refers to working slow to stretch out the job.
Yeah, I remember working with a guy who had been a Ford factory worker. This was decades ago, and I think he had said he'd made 75 Bucks an Hour, but I think that was counting all the benefits.
My last long term factory Job I left at the End of 1991 and was making 10.15 an hour, with good benefits and even a pension. We weren't union, it was in Orlando, but we made a store-brand soda. Our pay was more than coke, but less than Pepsi. That was big money in Orlando at that time. Disney kept wages low in Orlando. Still lower there than Here in Nashville. Pay for my type of work middle of the road is top pay in Orlando, but rent is somewhat higher here and Sales tax too, and they even tax food in the grocery.