15 minute supercut of missiles hitting Israel. Do people still think Iran just got lucky that this was not a precision operation? If there weren't any civilian casualties it can't be because "they couldn't aim". Iran vs Israel is Cabal taking out each other with a little helping hand from the WHs.
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I have heard:
"Iran is impotent, it was too scared to retaliate"
"Iran is evil, they just destroyed a bunch of Jews"
"Iran is incompetent, they couldnt kill a single Jew"
And now
"Iran must have killed civilians, but Israel is covering up"
Agreed, we are in the thick of the fog of battle and anything is possible.
BUT. The "appear strong when you are weak" doesn't really apply here. Sure, they would cover up any damage to military because that would make them look weak. But they thrive on civilian deaths. They would make the max use of any civilians who died to gain the sympathy of the world. After all, the whole reason for all this is to escalate this into a full fledged WW3, so they need all the civilian casualties they can collect to be able to escalate further.
We also know this from Oct 7th. They didnt "hide their weakness" but infact paraded it everywhere so they could start hitting back.
Okay but none of that has anything to do with what I'm saying.
Full disclosure; IDGAF about Israel, Palestine, Iran, or any other middle eastern country. I'm not an apologist for any side.
That being said ...
We just watched 15 straight minutes of missiles raining down on Jerusalem and we're supposed to believe that no civilians were killed at all? That's pretty damn miraculous. I'm going to go Occam's razor on that. Civilians were almost certainly killed and yet it's being kept quiet. The only question really is why.
Normally I would 100% agree with you.... But.... No one is coming to help them right now. Biden and the Dems aren't gonna get into a war right before the election. Especially since ALOT of their younger base are pro Palestine & Islam. The majority of Americans don't want it's troops sent overseas to fight in wars that don't involve us. Sending over troops now would be political suicide for the Dems and they know it.
So what can Israel do? Play a good defense for starters and act like the punches that landed didn't hurt. It's a bluff to discourage further attacks. Showing death and destruction would only motivate the other side at this junction.
I trust Israel's media and government about as much as I trust ours.
I genuinely hope I'm wrong but I'm just not that optimistic based upon what I'm seeing.
Nothing beyond the fact that what you were saying is a unique point of view.
This is the most important point. As long as we are not taking any side of this illusion, we are good!
Not very hard to imagine that, if it were a precision operation targeting critical military points.
I stopped using Occam's razor once I found Q, because according to occam's razor there is no grand conspiracy in this world. The world cannot be explained by the simplest possible explanation, by design, and hence using that to find answers would yield us wrong answers.
If that were really the case how do you explain all of Israeli actions, starting from allowing the Oct 7th to happen, to bold escalation against Gaza, Hamas, Lebenon, Iran etc? These are not actions of a country that stands alone, and wants to just survive.
However, these are indeed the actions of someone trying paint themselves into a corner, in the hopes of starting a WW3
Category error and logical fallacy.
Just because we've stumbled on to something that seemed far-fetched to most people that didn't share our level of pattern recognition, doesn't mean we should set aside basic logical processes. In fact Q teaches us to "think logically"
Occam's razor is a principle that suggests the simplest explanation is usually the best one when faced with multiple competing explanations.
We can actually use it to proof Q. So if you set it aside you've actually lost a good deal of your Q proofs and you're left with coincidences.
I don't know. And you don't know either. All we can do is speculate. There could have been a major attack coming that they got windows and they needed to preemptively attack in order to disrupt it. It could be countless other reasons. We don't know and we can't simply look at it from this very narrow position and especially with such a myopic view.
But which countries have sent troops over there to fight alongside them exactly? Has world War 3 started yet? No.
"No one is coming to help them right now. Biden and the Dems aren't gonna get into a war right before the election."
So far... Yes that is EXACTLY the case. If that changes I reserve the right to change my position But for now that's exactly where we're at.
I think we can both agree that Israel is a bad actor. Why is it such a stretch to think that they might be lying about civilians being killed? Again I think it's far more likely that those hundreds and hundreds of missile strikes, as precise as they could possibly be aimed, killed some civilians than it's likely that they did not. This is Urban warfare, not widespread isolated targets. Precision only works so well when you share three walls with civilians.
Its not about whether I look at this point on its own, without any other context and ask myself "Is this a stretch?". Such a narrow view would, of course, offer us any answer we may be inclined to believe in.
I tend to see things in their entirety and this question connects to a far more important question: "Are the Zionists in Israel trying to escalate to WW3?"
Whether they would be covering up civilian deaths would be a direct result of how you answer that question and thats the crux of where we both differ and what I am going to dig deeper into.
In your case, you believe that Zionists are not trying to escalate to WW3. If you not evaluate this position with even bigger picture of the sequence of events, it is easy to see that this position is inconsistent with everything Israel has been doing:
July 30 - Israel killed Hezbollah's top military commander Faud Shukur
July 31 - Within days after that Israel assassinated Hamas Leader not simply anytime but exactly when Iran's new president was being inaugurated.
Even the MSM cannot but agree that this is an escalation
Sep 17 & 18 Israel explodes pagers belonging to Hezbollah members.
This attack turned out to be not a precise attack only against the terrorists since Iran's Ambassador was seriously injured in this attack.
Through all these events, Iran's response was still measured and there was no retaliation, even as the MSM
At this point, lets set aside the fact that the simples explanation for this pattern is that Israel is trying to escalate, and instead examine why you believe this couldn't possibly be true.
This - if I understand correct - is the basis for your belief. Again, this is such a narrow view that you are missing the bigger picture. Biden and Dems are on their way out. We are at the eve of the elections.
Ask yourself this simple question- When Israel is making their calculations, is Dem's support the only factor in their decision making? Is it logical for them to game out a scenario that extends beyond a month?
What if they are convinced that if Trump wins, he would be motivated to jump in a war against Iran?
Lets interpose significant Trump events to this time line shall we?
July 13th - Trump 1st assassination attempt
July 25th - Trump is open to the possibility of wiping Iran off the face of earth
July 30 - Israel assassinates Faud Shukur
July 31 - Israel assassinates Ismail Haniyeh
Sep 16th - Trump 2nd assassination attempt
Fren, if you look at this pattern now and still tell me with a straight face that Israel even cares about Biden & Dem's support, honestly there is no helping you.
If you want simple answers, its your prerogative. Just don't assume they are correct answers.
If you want a more detailed analysis I made a post explaining how all this fits together with the coming precipice and the defaut of the Cabal
During war in Israel tjere are no civilians. The entire country becomes military. Likely they consider children combatant too. Remember the masada complex became the Goliath complex. So by definition they can say no civilians were killed. We know how they love to twist semantics.