15 minute supercut of missiles hitting Israel. Do people still think Iran just got lucky that this was not a precision operation? If there weren't any civilian casualties it can't be because "they couldn't aim". Iran vs Israel is Cabal taking out each other with a little helping hand from the WHs.
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Category error and logical fallacy.
Just because we've stumbled on to something that seemed far-fetched to most people that didn't share our level of pattern recognition, doesn't mean we should set aside basic logical processes. In fact Q teaches us to "think logically"
Occam's razor is a principle that suggests the simplest explanation is usually the best one when faced with multiple competing explanations.
We can actually use it to proof Q. So if you set it aside you've actually lost a good deal of your Q proofs and you're left with coincidences.
I don't know. And you don't know either. All we can do is speculate. There could have been a major attack coming that they got windows and they needed to preemptively attack in order to disrupt it. It could be countless other reasons. We don't know and we can't simply look at it from this very narrow position and especially with such a myopic view.
But which countries have sent troops over there to fight alongside them exactly? Has world War 3 started yet? No.
"No one is coming to help them right now. Biden and the Dems aren't gonna get into a war right before the election."
So far... Yes that is EXACTLY the case. If that changes I reserve the right to change my position But for now that's exactly where we're at.
I think we can both agree that Israel is a bad actor. Why is it such a stretch to think that they might be lying about civilians being killed? Again I think it's far more likely that those hundreds and hundreds of missile strikes, as precise as they could possibly be aimed, killed some civilians than it's likely that they did not. This is Urban warfare, not widespread isolated targets. Precision only works so well when you share three walls with civilians.
Its not about whether I look at this point on its own, without any other context and ask myself "Is this a stretch?". Such a narrow view would, of course, offer us any answer we may be inclined to believe in.
I tend to see things in their entirety and this question connects to a far more important question: "Are the Zionists in Israel trying to escalate to WW3?"
Whether they would be covering up civilian deaths would be a direct result of how you answer that question and thats the crux of where we both differ and what I am going to dig deeper into.
In your case, you believe that Zionists are not trying to escalate to WW3. If you not evaluate this position with even bigger picture of the sequence of events, it is easy to see that this position is inconsistent with everything Israel has been doing:
July 30 - Israel killed Hezbollah's top military commander Faud Shukur
July 31 - Within days after that Israel assassinated Hamas Leader not simply anytime but exactly when Iran's new president was being inaugurated.
Even the MSM cannot but agree that this is an escalation
Sep 17 & 18 Israel explodes pagers belonging to Hezbollah members.
This attack turned out to be not a precise attack only against the terrorists since Iran's Ambassador was seriously injured in this attack.
Through all these events, Iran's response was still measured and there was no retaliation, even as the MSM
At this point, lets set aside the fact that the simples explanation for this pattern is that Israel is trying to escalate, and instead examine why you believe this couldn't possibly be true.
This - if I understand correct - is the basis for your belief. Again, this is such a narrow view that you are missing the bigger picture. Biden and Dems are on their way out. We are at the eve of the elections.
Ask yourself this simple question- When Israel is making their calculations, is Dem's support the only factor in their decision making? Is it logical for them to game out a scenario that extends beyond a month?
What if they are convinced that if Trump wins, he would be motivated to jump in a war against Iran?
Lets interpose significant Trump events to this time line shall we?
July 13th - Trump 1st assassination attempt
July 25th - Trump is open to the possibility of wiping Iran off the face of earth
July 30 - Israel assassinates Faud Shukur
July 31 - Israel assassinates Ismail Haniyeh
Sep 16th - Trump 2nd assassination attempt
Fren, if you look at this pattern now and still tell me with a straight face that Israel even cares about Biden & Dem's support, honestly there is no helping you.
If you want simple answers, its your prerogative. Just don't assume they are correct answers.
If you want a more detailed analysis I made a post explaining how all this fits together with the coming precipice and the defaut of the Cabal
The basis for my belief that civilians have indeed been killed is:
Seeing hundreds of missiles falling with my own eyes.
Many of those missiles seeming in large part nothing remotely resembling a surgical strike.
Acknowledging that even with the finest precision strikes we are talking about many targets that share up to 3 walls with civilians.
The odds that there are zero civilian casualties are very small.
That's is. That's the underlying belief for my original assertion. That's beyond reasonable which then grants me the second assertion that Israel is lying about these numbers..... for some reason.
The odds Israel is lying is greater than the odds No civilians have been killed.
The rest is speculation and I'll bow out of it at this point lest I be told "I'm beyond help" again.
To imply that trying to guess what's happening during the fog of war makes potentially irredeemable in some way is just frankly kind of a dick thing to insinuate.
Have a good one hoss.
Dude, what do you think my entire analyses have been about? To try and cut through the fog of war.
Thats what you been doing calling me myopic while you settle on the simplest explanation without context
My point has always been simple - you can't cut through the fog of war using simplest explanations.
Misrepresentation. Disagree with me all you like but don't straw-man my ass in the process.
I literally JUST reiterated what my assertion was..... which you ignore to make your response fit. My possible explanations were all speculation..... which I freely admitted.
Calling a viewpoint "myopic" is addressing your assertions, not you. Yours however was a ad hominem directed at my person, not my position.
I can't continue with someone that is willing to be intellectually dishonest and misrepresent myself and my position.
I frequently enjoy reading your analysis and posts but this conversation has lost its ability to be productive since one of us has their position no longer being drawn to scale by the other making further exchanges pointless.
Good day
Israelis have bunkers and advance warning of the strike. The iron dome doesn't have to stop all rockets etc, only the ones that are a threat to something they prioritize.
I've heard the targets were military targets inside occupied lands (which isn't a strike on Israel) so it's unlikely civilians were in the area.
edit: found the down voting jew.