15 minute supercut of missiles hitting Israel. Do people still think Iran just got lucky that this was not a precision operation? If there weren't any civilian casualties it can't be because "they couldn't aim". Iran vs Israel is Cabal taking out each other with a little helping hand from the WHs.
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The basis for my belief that civilians have indeed been killed is:
Seeing hundreds of missiles falling with my own eyes.
Many of those missiles seeming in large part nothing remotely resembling a surgical strike.
Acknowledging that even with the finest precision strikes we are talking about many targets that share up to 3 walls with civilians.
The odds that there are zero civilian casualties are very small.
That's is. That's the underlying belief for my original assertion. That's beyond reasonable which then grants me the second assertion that Israel is lying about these numbers..... for some reason.
The odds Israel is lying is greater than the odds No civilians have been killed.
The rest is speculation and I'll bow out of it at this point lest I be told "I'm beyond help" again.
To imply that trying to guess what's happening during the fog of war makes potentially irredeemable in some way is just frankly kind of a dick thing to insinuate.
Have a good one hoss.
Dude, what do you think my entire analyses have been about? To try and cut through the fog of war.
Thats what you been doing calling me myopic while you settle on the simplest explanation without context
My point has always been simple - you can't cut through the fog of war using simplest explanations.
Misrepresentation. Disagree with me all you like but don't straw-man my ass in the process.
I literally JUST reiterated what my assertion was..... which you ignore to make your response fit. My possible explanations were all speculation..... which I freely admitted.
Calling a viewpoint "myopic" is addressing your assertions, not you. Yours however was a ad hominem directed at my person, not my position.
I can't continue with someone that is willing to be intellectually dishonest and misrepresent myself and my position.
I frequently enjoy reading your analysis and posts but this conversation has lost its ability to be productive since one of us has their position no longer being drawn to scale by the other making further exchanges pointless.
Good day
Wait where did I misrepresent you?
Your entire thesis has been that the simplest explanation is the correct explanation.
You settled on a simple explanation - That looking at the videos you don't think these could be strategic bombardments. (No one can make that judgement, not even military experts, without more data)
And the only context you are willing to engage with is that Biden and Dem's are not gonna help Israel. I already addressed that.
Please tell me how I am misrepresenting me.
I'll repeat:
The basis for my belief that civilians have indeed been killed is:
Seeing hundreds of missiles falling with my own eyes.
Many of those missiles seeming in large part nothing remotely resembling a surgical strike.
Acknowledging that even with the finest precision strikes we are talking about many targets that share up to 3 walls with civilians.
The odds that there are zero civilian casualties are very small.
That's is. That's the underlying belief for my original assertion. That's beyond reasonable which then grants me the second assertion that Israel is lying about these numbers..... for some reason.
The odds Israel is lying is greater than the odds No civilians have been killed
Looking at the videos I don't think this could be strategic bombardment SO PRECISE THAT NO CIVILIANS WERE KILLED.
Could this be a combination of random bombardment and precision strikes? Absolutely.
Could these all be precision strikes? Possibly but doubtful in my opinion.
Either way, there would almost certainly be civilian casualties.
That's it. That's my position. If you have any questions look at it again because you skipped over The contents of it apparently to make the comment I'm replying to.
I don't care about the rest of it. The rest was just speculation. But I'll be damned if I'm going to give an inch in this REASONABLE position people died in these strikes.
Why would Israel lie about it? I don't know. I've got 911 questions that I'd love for them to answer honestly.
I'll end with a simple rhetorical question (I'm done here. This is my last reply)
If they were looking for sympathy and help and they thought civilian casualties would help them achieve that goal why haven't they said hundreds+ of women and children were killed? They don't need casualties they just need to say they have casualties.
Good night
Israelis have bunkers and advance warning of the strike. The iron dome doesn't have to stop all rockets etc, only the ones that are a threat to something they prioritize.
I've heard the targets were military targets inside occupied lands (which isn't a strike on Israel) so it's unlikely civilians were in the area.
edit: found the down voting jew.