If Trump wins, and self-governance begins being restored, one huge thing we will see, maybe not day one, but eventually, and probably sooner than later…
Police in this country were private militia (read: US.) until the 1900s
Fire brigades in this country were private until the 1970’s in some places, maybe even later than that
Military was private until the national guard was federalized right around the time of the federal reserve
Trump won’t be fighting off the cabal, here, after they see they have nothing left to lose. Very likely it will be us. How that looks in order to be done lawfully, I have no idea. Lots of deputization?
OF the people
BY the people
FOR the people
We should all think very hard about what those words really mean. Those guys you hear about on TV, those other guys like the Cajun Navy, that’s going to be us, so be ready.
When he said he was going to teach “them” to fight again, he was talking about us, to [them]. They bribed us into compliance, but now their money is running out.
Yep. We need to take care of ourselves, and our community by ourselves.
Once we ALL have become ungovernable we need to learn to govern ourselves.... that's a huge task.
The government has worked its way into every corner of our lives.... I think it'll be hard ; like when communism fell in many countries - people starved and didn't have a clue what to do on their own.
The mayor owns control of their paychecks. The mayor owns control of their pension funds. The city council and mayor and feds say what they file charges against. We don’t get a say in the laws they enforce, and they’re funded with a combination of free money, unwarranted property seizures, and fraudulent for-profit fines.
If we got to say what was going to be done, and how, and the accused got to face the person accusing them of damages, and perjury penalties and understanding of the meaning of “thou shalt not commit false witness” and “as you judge, you will be judged” became understood in practical ways again, sure there is option for corruption, but do you really think that the mayor of a large city stealing a multibillion dollar pension fund to throw into a graft project that he throws the weight of the mayors office into to get everyone moving… isn’t going to generate hundreds of times more corruption than private citizens getting out of bed for free to go enforce an arrest warrant to summon someone to court to face a person claiming actual damages, because we would want our neighbors property to be restored every bit as much as ours, and for our other neighbor to not be convicted falsely any more than for us to be?
Yes, because someone will see that person working for free and make it worth their while by paying them. While maybe this private enforcement will be better initially for taking some actions against the rich and powerful that wouldn't otherwise be taken, for day-to-day crimes, the quality of service will greatly decrease and probably lead to more criminality than ever since there's no one to stop people from looting and robbing and murdering. Whoever has the bigger gang will win and might will make right.
If someone can pay US working for our own justice on a volunteer basis, they can pay a permanent incorporation working for a mayor or judiciary in the same way.
Any system can fail, but you’re advocating one point of failure (which is what we’ve had), instead of distributed points of failure (our original system), and we have seen it be corrupted.
The way they corrupted the old system was by killing everyone in wars. It was much harder, and if we can’t trust ourselves as free men, then we can’t be free. Freedom requires righteousness and standing against evil and corruption, and some places will be freer and more righteous than others. Freedom isn’t standardized.
Further, if we continue to value bribes over freedom we will receive the fruits of bribes.
If Trump wins, and self-governance begins being restored, one huge thing we will see, maybe not day one, but eventually, and probably sooner than later…
Police in this country were private militia (read: US.) until the 1900s
Fire brigades in this country were private until the 1970’s in some places, maybe even later than that
Military was private until the national guard was federalized right around the time of the federal reserve
Trump won’t be fighting off the cabal, here, after they see they have nothing left to lose. Very likely it will be us. How that looks in order to be done lawfully, I have no idea. Lots of deputization?
OF the people
BY the people
FOR the people
We should all think very hard about what those words really mean. Those guys you hear about on TV, those other guys like the Cajun Navy, that’s going to be us, so be ready.
When he said he was going to teach “them” to fight again, he was talking about us, to [them]. They bribed us into compliance, but now their money is running out.
Yep. We need to take care of ourselves, and our community by ourselves.
Once we ALL have become ungovernable we need to learn to govern ourselves.... that's a huge task.
The government has worked its way into every corner of our lives.... I think it'll be hard ; like when communism fell in many countries - people starved and didn't have a clue what to do on their own.
Seems like private police forces would have even worse problems with corruption than the systems we have now.
We have private police, now.
The mayor owns control of their paychecks. The mayor owns control of their pension funds. The city council and mayor and feds say what they file charges against. We don’t get a say in the laws they enforce, and they’re funded with a combination of free money, unwarranted property seizures, and fraudulent for-profit fines.
If we got to say what was going to be done, and how, and the accused got to face the person accusing them of damages, and perjury penalties and understanding of the meaning of “thou shalt not commit false witness” and “as you judge, you will be judged” became understood in practical ways again, sure there is option for corruption, but do you really think that the mayor of a large city stealing a multibillion dollar pension fund to throw into a graft project that he throws the weight of the mayors office into to get everyone moving… isn’t going to generate hundreds of times more corruption than private citizens getting out of bed for free to go enforce an arrest warrant to summon someone to court to face a person claiming actual damages, because we would want our neighbors property to be restored every bit as much as ours, and for our other neighbor to not be convicted falsely any more than for us to be?
Yes, because someone will see that person working for free and make it worth their while by paying them. While maybe this private enforcement will be better initially for taking some actions against the rich and powerful that wouldn't otherwise be taken, for day-to-day crimes, the quality of service will greatly decrease and probably lead to more criminality than ever since there's no one to stop people from looting and robbing and murdering. Whoever has the bigger gang will win and might will make right.
If someone can pay US working for our own justice on a volunteer basis, they can pay a permanent incorporation working for a mayor or judiciary in the same way.
Any system can fail, but you’re advocating one point of failure (which is what we’ve had), instead of distributed points of failure (our original system), and we have seen it be corrupted.
The way they corrupted the old system was by killing everyone in wars. It was much harder, and if we can’t trust ourselves as free men, then we can’t be free. Freedom requires righteousness and standing against evil and corruption, and some places will be freer and more righteous than others. Freedom isn’t standardized.
Further, if we continue to value bribes over freedom we will receive the fruits of bribes.