James O'Keefe -Undercover video of non-citizens voting in Philadelphia, PA
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I looked it up myself. If this isn't the person you're talking about, please let me know.
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/non-us-citizen-charged-casting-ballot-michigan-general-election/
This has nothing to do with what this post is about, or what I commented.
O'Keefe is talking about non-citizens voting in local elections in Philadelphia. It is 100% legal for non-citizens to vote in local elections there. If you read the article linked above, you'll see that nowhere does he say that they're voting in Federal elections, such as for President.
The Chinese citizen you're talking about cast his vote in Michigan (Anne Arbor, I believe) where it is not legal for non-citizens to vote in either local or federal elections.
So, other than it being about a non-citizen voting in an election, it's not relevant to the topic.
Details matter, you know. Such as if a city legally allows non-citizens to vote in their local elections. If you don't agree with that, and think they shouldn't allow non-citizens to vote in their local elections, I understand that. That's fine. But it's NOT the same as voter fraud, and that's what people are assuming when they read titles like that.
I don't like it when people deliberately try to stir up shit, relying on the fact that few people will check details. Such as if it's legal for non-citizens to vote in their local elections. Which it is where O'Keefe is talking about. This is rage porn. It's deliberately trying to mislead people into thinking that voter fraud is happening in cases where it is not. It doesn't mean that voter fraud doesn't happen, because obviously it does. But this is pure intellectual dishonesty when he knows (he should absolutely know that it's legal for non-citizens to vote in local elections there, and if he doesn’t, he's a shitty journalist) that the people he's talking about here are not breaking the law for voting in their local election.
Not only that, but he places those people at risk of being doxxed and harassed by people who don't have enough sense to check for themselves what the situation is there. I'm surprised I haven't seen any *hang them and have it broadcasted on tv!" type comments here about it. Yet. The day is still young, though.
I am happy to see that they caught that Chinese guy so quickly, though, and I hope they deport him for it.
The point is that you, as usual, parrot the leftist line that "non-citizens don't vote", and now you have been shown that they do -- whether it is against the law or it isn't.
They are still counting his vote.
No, again, details matter. I have never said "non-citizens don't vote". Ever.
What I AM saying is that it's 100% legal for non-citizens to vote in local elections where O'Keefe is talking about.
If you don't like that non-citizens are allowed to vote in local elections, that's understandable.
But you think that it's illegal for them to do in the case here (the original post) when that simply is not true.
Facts matter. Details matter.
Agreed Anon. Your information is correct. Some States, just like here in Cali have implemented such laws.
Sucks but it is what it is until we can take power back to remove such laws.
Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I've fallen into Bizarro World.
When talking about things like voter fraud, details like if something is legal or not is pretty damn important. I didn't think I'd ever have to point that out (or drill it into someone's head) but...
It's going to cause problems when people try to use this as an example to prove rampant voter fraud, by citizens or non-citizens.
I'm not saying that voter fraud doesn't happen, because it obviously does. What I am saying is that this stuff from O'Keefe is not an example to use. It will do nothing but damage our credibility even more.
I also find it concerning that being diligent about things like facts and details (especially when it's something as important as voter fraud) is considered leftist behavior. 😕
The reason why it's important to understand that the case that O'Keefe is talking about it legal is because liberals will use this type of thing to discredit everything we might say about voter fraud.
They will say that we're too stupid to understand the difference between legal and illegal.
This is why I get annoyed when I see stuff like this. It's stuff like this that hurts our credibility. I don't know why others don't see this.
Whenever you're talking to someone about an important issue like voter fraud, and they didn't bother to learn virtually anything about what they're claiming, how likely is it that you will respect anything they have to say?