If religion comes into play in a significant way here, it's going to be one giant clusterfuck
Obviously the majority of people are going to take it to mean that we're a "Christian Nation", but when I ask them what they think that means, they can't give an answer other than something along the lines of "people will turn to God" or something along those lines.
So right off the bat, every religion other than Christianity is going to be disenfranchised. Lovely, we're just going to rip that whole First Amendment Establishment Clause right out of the Constitution and wipe our asses with it.
But depending on how stupid the country gets over this whole "Christian Nation" stuff, it's going to be an EPIC clusterfuck when Catholics and Protestants start fighting over who the "True Christians" (there really needs to be a trademark on that term) are, thus who rules the country under the umbrella term of "Christianity".
I'm sure that's not going to cause any trouble at all. It's not like we have literally centuries of wars all over the European continent that was caused because of this stuff. It's not like it was one of the reasons our forefathers came here just to get away from this shit. (I need to point out that this is sarcasm, because it's inevitable that if I don't, some troglodyte will pop up telling me how I'm wrong.)
So apparently we're just going to reenact the Thirty Years War and The Eighty Years War and shit, let's just redo the Spanish Inquisition while we're at it. No one will expect that!
I'm sure the Protestants will win, due to numbers alone. (We'll just conveniently ignore that whole "mob rule" jibber jabber that people talk about when it concerns the Popular Vote vs Electoral College stuff).
So now the Protestants will duke it out amongst themselves as to which denomination are "True Christians". I'm sure that this will be settled peacefully. Because surely there has never been an issue of countries fighting over which particular flavor of their religion should be in charge. (This is sarcasm as well. Because, you know, that whole Sunni vs Shia stuff...).
It's going to be ever so much fun to see how this is going to turn out. Depending on who the top dog is when the dust settles, I suppose we'll all learn, after thousands of years of fighting over it, who the "True Christians" are.
So, yeah, excellent decision on making religion a divisive factor in the country. I'm sure that will not blow up in our faces at all. (Again, sarcasm.)
Fuck my life, this is going to be a goddamn nightmare.
When were found clearly on Christian principles. The freedom of worship allows for people of any belief system to continue. I lived in a Muslim country (jordan) where christianity is legal but not the state recognized belief system. Majority of people were Muslim and it seemed fine for.the rest. I prefer a Christian paradigm since our majority are Christian here.
Which principles were we founded on that are unique to Christianity? I would be absolutely thrilled if you could list those for me. Because every time I have a conversation about this, I ask the same question and have yet to get an actual answer.
The principles we were founded on can be found, in some form, in most major religions. They can also be found in the writings of ancient Greek philosophers and in the Code of Hammurabi.
I could just as easily say that America is a polythiestic country, because we were founded on the same principles as those of ancient Greece.
But more importantly, when you think of the US being a Christian Nation, what do you think that means, practically speaking? Does it mean Christians get preferential treatment over others? Normally I would ask if it means that only Christians should be allowed to live here, but thankfully that was already made clear in your post that you don't believe that.
A true Christian is someone who follows Jesus and has a personal relationship with our savior following repentance and confession to being a sinner. We don’t need religion to do that. But we do need to recognize HE is God and died for our sins to bring us salvation and offer us each a relationship with HIM. Being a Christian nation would mean that we follow in the footsteps of Jesus as we recognize we live in his promised land. This country was founded as “One Nation Under God”. God needs to be recognized and identified as Jesus (since there are other lower fake gods being worshipped = moloch’s) HOWEVER I do not believe in religion and agree we do not need to push any of that crap on the American people as it will only deter them further and push them away from the truth. I didn’t like that Trump used the word religion in his speech but hopefully in time his message will clear up and only pertain to what is written in the constitution. ✝️
You are talking about how the country will be religiously divided over this. I can see your point. However aren’t we already divided within the church? My point is we don’t need religion at all. We just need to recognize who God is - Jesus who died for our sins. Question however is whether that is our governments job to do or the job of the church (or personal responsibility)? The constitution is founded as “One Nation Under God” but never does it define who God is nor does it state a particular religion. The fact that majority of Americans agree that Jesus is Lord does not change this fact. There is also the clause with seperation of Church and Government. IMO each and everyone one of us has the right to believe what we want and it should not be pushed unto us by our Government.
I don’t have a problem with them recognizing God almighty as it’s the basis of our constitution. But it doesn’t make any recognition that God in the constitution is the Christian God. I believe of course He is but I also believe we all have the right to come to that conclusion on our own. Or not. Now that we will have Trump back in office we can rest assured that the God in the constitution will be honored as the Christian God. For too long have we been ruled by Moloch, his puppets and his flying monkeys. But we need to pray that God will guide President Trump well and not allow any religious pollution.
Well said. 100% agree.
If religion comes into play in a significant way here, it's going to be one giant clusterfuck
Obviously the majority of people are going to take it to mean that we're a "Christian Nation", but when I ask them what they think that means, they can't give an answer other than something along the lines of "people will turn to God" or something along those lines.
So right off the bat, every religion other than Christianity is going to be disenfranchised. Lovely, we're just going to rip that whole First Amendment Establishment Clause right out of the Constitution and wipe our asses with it.
But depending on how stupid the country gets over this whole "Christian Nation" stuff, it's going to be an EPIC clusterfuck when Catholics and Protestants start fighting over who the "True Christians" (there really needs to be a trademark on that term) are, thus who rules the country under the umbrella term of "Christianity".
I'm sure that's not going to cause any trouble at all. It's not like we have literally centuries of wars all over the European continent that was caused because of this stuff. It's not like it was one of the reasons our forefathers came here just to get away from this shit. (I need to point out that this is sarcasm, because it's inevitable that if I don't, some troglodyte will pop up telling me how I'm wrong.)
So apparently we're just going to reenact the Thirty Years War and The Eighty Years War and shit, let's just redo the Spanish Inquisition while we're at it. No one will expect that!
I'm sure the Protestants will win, due to numbers alone. (We'll just conveniently ignore that whole "mob rule" jibber jabber that people talk about when it concerns the Popular Vote vs Electoral College stuff).
So now the Protestants will duke it out amongst themselves as to which denomination are "True Christians". I'm sure that this will be settled peacefully. Because surely there has never been an issue of countries fighting over which particular flavor of their religion should be in charge. (This is sarcasm as well. Because, you know, that whole Sunni vs Shia stuff...).
It's going to be ever so much fun to see how this is going to turn out. Depending on who the top dog is when the dust settles, I suppose we'll all learn, after thousands of years of fighting over it, who the "True Christians" are.
So, yeah, excellent decision on making religion a divisive factor in the country. I'm sure that will not blow up in our faces at all. (Again, sarcasm.)
Fuck my life, this is going to be a goddamn nightmare.
When were found clearly on Christian principles. The freedom of worship allows for people of any belief system to continue. I lived in a Muslim country (jordan) where christianity is legal but not the state recognized belief system. Majority of people were Muslim and it seemed fine for.the rest. I prefer a Christian paradigm since our majority are Christian here.
Which principles were we founded on that are unique to Christianity? I would be absolutely thrilled if you could list those for me. Because every time I have a conversation about this, I ask the same question and have yet to get an actual answer.
The principles we were founded on can be found, in some form, in most major religions. They can also be found in the writings of ancient Greek philosophers and in the Code of Hammurabi.
I could just as easily say that America is a polythiestic country, because we were founded on the same principles as those of ancient Greece.
But more importantly, when you think of the US being a Christian Nation, what do you think that means, practically speaking? Does it mean Christians get preferential treatment over others? Normally I would ask if it means that only Christians should be allowed to live here, but thankfully that was already made clear in your post that you don't believe that.
A true Christian is someone who follows Jesus and has a personal relationship with our savior following repentance and confession to being a sinner. We don’t need religion to do that. But we do need to recognize HE is God and died for our sins to bring us salvation and offer us each a relationship with HIM. Being a Christian nation would mean that we follow in the footsteps of Jesus as we recognize we live in his promised land. This country was founded as “One Nation Under God”. God needs to be recognized and identified as Jesus (since there are other lower fake gods being worshipped = moloch’s) HOWEVER I do not believe in religion and agree we do not need to push any of that crap on the American people as it will only deter them further and push them away from the truth. I didn’t like that Trump used the word religion in his speech but hopefully in time his message will clear up and only pertain to what is written in the constitution. ✝️
I think you missed my point entirely.
You are talking about how the country will be religiously divided over this. I can see your point. However aren’t we already divided within the church? My point is we don’t need religion at all. We just need to recognize who God is - Jesus who died for our sins. Question however is whether that is our governments job to do or the job of the church (or personal responsibility)? The constitution is founded as “One Nation Under God” but never does it define who God is nor does it state a particular religion. The fact that majority of Americans agree that Jesus is Lord does not change this fact. There is also the clause with seperation of Church and Government. IMO each and everyone one of us has the right to believe what we want and it should not be pushed unto us by our Government. I don’t have a problem with them recognizing God almighty as it’s the basis of our constitution. But it doesn’t make any recognition that God in the constitution is the Christian God. I believe of course He is but I also believe we all have the right to come to that conclusion on our own. Or not. Now that we will have Trump back in office we can rest assured that the God in the constitution will be honored as the Christian God. For too long have we been ruled by Moloch, his puppets and his flying monkeys. But we need to pray that God will guide President Trump well and not allow any religious pollution.
How can we be assured of that? How is that going to be accomplished? What does it mean to "honor God", exactly?
Are people going to be punished for not honoring the Christian god, and if so, how?
What do you imagine will change concerning religion now that Trump is back in office? How did it change under his first term?
I would really appreciate it if you could give me some examples of what you think will change.
And all along, Jesus is sitting in Heaven with his face in his palm. The Taoists got it right, and they never even mention his name.