@elonmusk
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4h
If you exclude security guards & maintenance personnel, the number of government workers who show up in person and do 40 hours of work a week is closer to 1%!
Other than building overhead, I don't care about workers showing up in person. I care how many hours they work.
I work for a national organization where 90% of staff work remotely 100% of the time, and it had been that way before covid. Remote work is still work...
Only if they do it. How do you know if they actually do the work? Actually put in the hours? I don’t trust the federal government workers to actually do the work they are being paid to do. Most are not needed.
So there's a difference between a few of the things that you're talking about putting in the amount of hours or the amount of hours put in is not the same thing if whether someone is doing the work or not what shows of someone is doing the work or not is if their duties and tasks and responsibilities are taken care of.
And the question of most are not needed again I don't know if most or not needed or not government workers are no different than any other workers either just humans. My sister worked for the government for several years and she worked her ass off she did four long hour days and then she would have Friday off.
But again the ethic of someone is individual it's not like one giant brush of everyone who works in this field is a lazy POS. However they're probably is because of the government bloat in money a lot of positions that could be Consolidated or that could be excised because they're trying to blow the budget so that they can get more money for more clandestine reasons.
Are they paid by the hour? Or salary? How do you know if you are getting your money’s worth? Many if not most are paid by the hour. If salary it’s a monthly amount based on some minimum amount of hours. Salary jobs usually assume you are working more than the typical 40 hr week. At least it was in my case. The issue I see with people working at home is determining the value of the work done. If they work 8 hours at an office for example, doing the tasks assigned then they are paid for the 8 hours of work. If working at home and they get the tasks done in 4 hours you have not assigned enough work for that person. And over paid them for the work that was done. If in the office it would be easy for their supervisor to see that they could be doing more in that 8 hour period. At home not so much. Great deal for the worker but not so much for the tax payer in the case of government workers. I would rather see our tax dollars used wisely rather than squandered.
Like I said I work from home so this isn't theoretical my entire organization works from home so that's also not theoretical even the ones that are local to the office work from home most days of the week. So I know that you're all suspicious but most people actually do work. Because what happens when you don't do your work is that the work of your office or your company doesn't get done. And people can notice that. If your boss tells you that you need to do an analysis of a certain event or topic whatever and it has to be done by in two weeks and you don't turn it in in 2 weeks then they know you haven't done your work.
In fact working from home what typically happens is you are able to work without boundaries there is no time that you have to get up and commute or go to the Subway or take a train or whatever it is you work until. It doesn't need to be tracked people are responsible. Of course there are people that will flake off but you know those are the same people that would have a poor work ethic even if they were in the office. Just because you switch locations doesn't mean that you can't still be a slacker and that's down to personal choice not because you work from home.
Honestly I don't care where you work, I'm more concerned about what kind of work you are doing and how is getting done. If you're a software dev you can work at home, it's proven just as efficient as being in office. If you're a plumber or guardsman yeah u need to be onsite. I'm really concerned about is the work being issued getting done. That's all I care about imo
@elonmusk · 4h If you exclude security guards & maintenance personnel, the number of government workers who show up in person and do 40 hours of work a week is closer to 1%!
Almost no one.
Other than building overhead, I don't care about workers showing up in person. I care how many hours they work.
I work for a national organization where 90% of staff work remotely 100% of the time, and it had been that way before covid. Remote work is still work...
I don't even care how many hours they work if they get the job done in 6 hours then I'm fine
Yep. I agree.
Only if they do it. How do you know if they actually do the work? Actually put in the hours? I don’t trust the federal government workers to actually do the work they are being paid to do. Most are not needed.
So there's a difference between a few of the things that you're talking about putting in the amount of hours or the amount of hours put in is not the same thing if whether someone is doing the work or not what shows of someone is doing the work or not is if their duties and tasks and responsibilities are taken care of.
And the question of most are not needed again I don't know if most or not needed or not government workers are no different than any other workers either just humans. My sister worked for the government for several years and she worked her ass off she did four long hour days and then she would have Friday off.
But again the ethic of someone is individual it's not like one giant brush of everyone who works in this field is a lazy POS. However they're probably is because of the government bloat in money a lot of positions that could be Consolidated or that could be excised because they're trying to blow the budget so that they can get more money for more clandestine reasons.
Are they paid by the hour? Or salary? How do you know if you are getting your money’s worth? Many if not most are paid by the hour. If salary it’s a monthly amount based on some minimum amount of hours. Salary jobs usually assume you are working more than the typical 40 hr week. At least it was in my case. The issue I see with people working at home is determining the value of the work done. If they work 8 hours at an office for example, doing the tasks assigned then they are paid for the 8 hours of work. If working at home and they get the tasks done in 4 hours you have not assigned enough work for that person. And over paid them for the work that was done. If in the office it would be easy for their supervisor to see that they could be doing more in that 8 hour period. At home not so much. Great deal for the worker but not so much for the tax payer in the case of government workers. I would rather see our tax dollars used wisely rather than squandered.
Like I said I work from home so this isn't theoretical my entire organization works from home so that's also not theoretical even the ones that are local to the office work from home most days of the week. So I know that you're all suspicious but most people actually do work. Because what happens when you don't do your work is that the work of your office or your company doesn't get done. And people can notice that. If your boss tells you that you need to do an analysis of a certain event or topic whatever and it has to be done by in two weeks and you don't turn it in in 2 weeks then they know you haven't done your work.
In fact working from home what typically happens is you are able to work without boundaries there is no time that you have to get up and commute or go to the Subway or take a train or whatever it is you work until. It doesn't need to be tracked people are responsible. Of course there are people that will flake off but you know those are the same people that would have a poor work ethic even if they were in the office. Just because you switch locations doesn't mean that you can't still be a slacker and that's down to personal choice not because you work from home.
So we could do without 94% of them? Hell, I'm just glad we don't get all the government we pay for. Now THAT would be pure hell.
Honestly I don't care where you work, I'm more concerned about what kind of work you are doing and how is getting done. If you're a software dev you can work at home, it's proven just as efficient as being in office. If you're a plumber or guardsman yeah u need to be onsite. I'm really concerned about is the work being issued getting done. That's all I care about imo