(1) I read the "manifesto." (Must they always have a "manifesto?") It was an interesting read. Felt sympathy for the mother and him. If it is shown to a jury, it might be enough to get him a hung jury -- especially in NYC. But ...
He complained that the insurance deductible was $6,000. End of year, hit the deductible, and a new year started with another $6,000 deductible. Also complained of a quack telling mom she needed back surgery that would cost $180,000. They found out later it would not have helped at all.
I can understand the pain mom (and he) went through. I can understand the frustration that the pain was not solved. I can understand the increased frustration that United Health did nothing but play games and violate the insurance contract to save money for the company.
I understand all that. And yes, that needs to change in BigHealth America.
But I do not understand why the money issue was such a big deal for THIS person and THIS family.
They are wealthy. $1.9 million house. Own a country club, hotels, real estate, businesses.
Sent kid through private school that cost probably around $1 milllion -- $500,000 just for K-12, then bachelor's and master's degrees at UPenn. They have a daughter who is a high-earner, and probably had an expensive education, too. Maybe more children (not sure).
These people have money. Money cannot kill the pain. I understand that, but it sure as hell can pay medical bills and alternative treatments, insurance company or not.
So, the money complaint does not really add up for THIS particular family.
It would for most families, but I am skeptical about why it would accelerate such hatred for THIS particular situation.
(2) CEO was the leader of the investor conference (or, at least, one of the key participants). Conference was held at the Hilton. When the conference room was booked, it would be natural to also book rooms in the same hotel for company attendees.
Why did he stay at a hotel across the street?
AND ... how the hell did Luigi KNOW that the CEO stayed at a different hotel, and not the Hilton? How would he KNOW there would ever be an opportunity for a shooting, at all? How did he KNOW the exact timing?
Conference started at 8:00 am. CEO showed up at 6:45. CEO could have arrived earlier or later. Seems the shooter had a pretty good idea when CEO would arrive on the scene.
How?
(3) Why, several days later, did he still have the weapon, fake ID's, face masks, clothes, AND a "manifesto" on him? Maybe he expected to be caught. But why have all that evidence on his person?
He could have grown a beard, or had a fake one ready to go. Could have shaved his head. Could have worn fake glasses, a plastic nose that looks different.
Hell ... he could have TRIMMED THOSE BUSHY EYEBROWS!
Something just doesn't seem to add up.
Maybe the story is 100% legit, but ramping up the public to turn to violence to solve "corrupt corporate America problems" seems like a move the criminal cabal would love to see.
Anon gets it.
Or Pelosi did it.
Or both.
Nothing legit about this story . Everything the news has reported is OBVIOUS bullshit. They knew the "type" of gun used ? It was 3D printed how could they know the "type "? He had the clothes with him in a rucksack, sure I always carry my dirty murder clothes around. He wrote a manifesto? Nothing screams MK ultra like a manifesto, ask Ted Kazinsky.
Killing someone for $6K??
if this ceo was going to testify in an upcoming trial for insider trading, as has been reported previously, that seems most likely to square the circle
Maybe.
Either (a) this is the real shooter, or (b) someone else was the real shooter and he is a patsy. Those are the only 2 options.
If he is the real shooter, then why such a well-planned out attack, and also such a stupid follow up? Why cruise around on busses? Why not a car? How did he know where/when CEO would be? Etc.
If he is a patsy, then the perps have a BIG problem. He spoke up at the arraignment and corrected the prosecutor on two issues. This is VERY unusual, because most defendants say nothing. Most are in shock or too stupid or uninformed to understand what is going on and what they can do in that situation.
Not this guy. He is aware enough (i.e. not drugged out) and smart enough (i.e. not an idiot) to rise to his own defense.
If he is not the real shooter, this could get wild -- potentially saying things that are not supposed to be said.
If he is, someone on the jury might vote not guilty -- even more wild, potentially opening the door to copycats.
and none of us have seen the dead body... you would think anyone doing a real crime would try to disappear into their life of normalcy asap.
It is also important to note that we have not seen the face of the shooter.
We have seen pics of someone, who we are TOLD is the shooter, and those pics more or less match up with Luigi, but the actual shooter's face could not be really seen in the shooting video. No other camera angle available?
Of course, hard to dismiss him having gun on him and fake ID that matches.
But that is weird, in and of itself. Not the actions of someone trying to get away with it.
Looks like the manifesto was written before the patsy was selected.
Anything on the chans theorizing anything?
Most of the comments focus on the unibrow
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/491071696
The Ins. industry was #1 on the list of corruption and stealing the American People's hard earned money Until big pharma replaced them. Big Ins. just moved down to #2.
Some great points. Especially after what Hochal said. The Mani was well written and after reading it you can pretty much sympathize with him and even though murder is of course bad, I see what he did there with the 2nd amendment and "war" on his mother and him per say. It seems this was more about his mother's pain, but his pain probably set him off. It wasnt about the money, but the constant run around and contract changes and fuckery they put his family through. Notice how he also criticized western medicine because it didn't do anything to actually help his mother or him. I could sense some serious frustration. There's a lot of conspiracy and connections. I'm also very interested how he knew the timing and where abouts of the CEO which could suggest he had help. He is a smart kid though, can tell in his writings. He did what he felt like he had to do. Its really hard to blame the guy if you do understand the mentality of our founders. I think his mistake was not being part of a militia. A one man band is risky. I'm not sure why he wanted to get caught though. That's also something I can't figure out. Was he in a secret society? Was he in intelligence community? Or just a lone wolf who had enough? It's a very interesting story for sure but I just cannot figure out why he wanted to get caught.
I watched a show about hypnosis, one key take away was that you can’t make someone do something against their inner will.
To hypnotise the guy to actually kill someone, they would start by grooming him into hating the company that screwed him. Fueling the emotions. Well, I would.
NANCY PELOSI
https://nitter.poast.org/ShadowofEzra/status/1866561871446180239
AND: The shooter and Luigi Mangione's eyebrows are different. Look up photos of both and compare. Luigi's a patsy.
Shooter vs Luigi Mangione: https://img07.rl0.ru/afisha/e-x750i/daily.afisha.ru/uploads/images/3/38/338c75d8536434aaa6ae91b5543f775d.png
All legit wtfs.
Regarding time he walked out, maybe he was going to join some others for breakfast. I think it was a hit and I think he will get paid for it. It might be worth alittle jail time for him. Would the state prison pay for any additional procedures?
They brought most of the evidence with them.
Inquiring minds want to know.