I agree with you and I know what universities have become in the west. But where else would one gain an engineering degree to work in an advanced field such as engineering? That was my point and even if universities are commie infested shitholes... The real fix is to remove the rot that has infested all of our institutions.
Auditing classes and self study are not going to get a person an interview or a job offer for STEM positions. You still have to get a degree. The first job to gain experience is the hardest one. IT is an outlier. Anyone can do IT. Here's why...
I am saying this as a system engineer with 20+ years experience and no college degree. I am 100% self taught. Learned Berkeley UNIX, then Linux and Solaris. Along the way taught myself storage and now work as an engineer for a Fortune 20. It can be done but it takes an entire career...
I also know several it folks without degrees, quite successful. Engineering? We can't hire any new graduates right now. Big companies like the one I'm in are starting their own programs because the products of unis now are worse than useless, they're woke. There will be a gap but we need to redo the necessary institutions, if any can be salvaged, else restart from scratch.
I was just speaking of this today with someone. Eiher we clear the rot from our institutions or we find a new way. Maybe apprenticeship programs for high school grads who are up to snuff? Or even companies running their own programs based on their own private criteria. Both are positive if you ask me. I do believe we can salvage the public institutions though. If we don't then the system is setting itself up to fail. All the private/apprenticeship programs will be fraught with fraud and nepotism. It takes good people to run these programs. How do we get there?
Companies are already starting their own- I've seen the recruitment booths at homeschool conferences. Use organizations that have proven track records, and make your own that show real transparency, such that fraud and nepotism would out themselves. Good people are all over, refugees from the corrupt systems, that, like the good vets, will return when called to. Mike Rowe Works is a good network for the trades, real science will have to be redone almost completely after the 200 level, because so much of it is paid misinformation, especially medicine. History too. We will need to dig way back to find any reliable books for most of it. Trust absolutely no one who excelled there in the last few generations (even me lol) unless they show they are not programmed. No more blind "trust the experts!"
I agree with you and I know what universities have become in the west. But where else would one gain an engineering degree to work in an advanced field such as engineering? That was my point and even if universities are commie infested shitholes... The real fix is to remove the rot that has infested all of our institutions.
Auditing classes and self study are not going to get a person an interview or a job offer for STEM positions. You still have to get a degree. The first job to gain experience is the hardest one. IT is an outlier. Anyone can do IT. Here's why...
I am saying this as a system engineer with 20+ years experience and no college degree. I am 100% self taught. Learned Berkeley UNIX, then Linux and Solaris. Along the way taught myself storage and now work as an engineer for a Fortune 20. It can be done but it takes an entire career...
I also know several it folks without degrees, quite successful. Engineering? We can't hire any new graduates right now. Big companies like the one I'm in are starting their own programs because the products of unis now are worse than useless, they're woke. There will be a gap but we need to redo the necessary institutions, if any can be salvaged, else restart from scratch.
I was just speaking of this today with someone. Eiher we clear the rot from our institutions or we find a new way. Maybe apprenticeship programs for high school grads who are up to snuff? Or even companies running their own programs based on their own private criteria. Both are positive if you ask me. I do believe we can salvage the public institutions though. If we don't then the system is setting itself up to fail. All the private/apprenticeship programs will be fraught with fraud and nepotism. It takes good people to run these programs. How do we get there?
Companies are already starting their own- I've seen the recruitment booths at homeschool conferences. Use organizations that have proven track records, and make your own that show real transparency, such that fraud and nepotism would out themselves. Good people are all over, refugees from the corrupt systems, that, like the good vets, will return when called to. Mike Rowe Works is a good network for the trades, real science will have to be redone almost completely after the 200 level, because so much of it is paid misinformation, especially medicine. History too. We will need to dig way back to find any reliable books for most of it. Trust absolutely no one who excelled there in the last few generations (even me lol) unless they show they are not programmed. No more blind "trust the experts!"