Anyone that supports H1-Bs, or TFWs, or any system to gives positions to others instead of the native population is a traitor and should be dealt as such. There is no way of ignoring the effects, so to suggest we need to continue them is an admission of an intent to do harm to the Nation.
I was trying to explain this to people at dinner the other night.
i said, it depends on what you think is "The Nation"..
Is the Nation just the geographic location, land and government,
OR
Is the Nation the people that inhabit that geographic location.
To any Nationalist, it isn't a question. Its the people stupid. IMO.
You guys know that President Trump supports those visas, right? And that he employs many migrant farm workers and domestic staff at his vineyards and resorts here on H1-b visas?
This is a garbage statement - seriously... you have no idea what you are talking about nor do most here regarding this and the tech industry. This is not a black and white issue here whatsoever. I have worked with some absolutely excellent people from India, working here in the US on a visa. This experience of mine makes me a traitor? GTFO here with that
In the US :) - where I live now isn't terribly important apart from that. I have lived a good many years in the Bay Area, CA and have moved away now. This is beside the point though. My experience isn't unique in my industry at all (telecom) and through mergers and company split-ups I have worked with people from many countries and backgrounds - we talk quite a bit about working with people from different countries. Bulgaria and India have the "cheapest" labor but it comes at the cost of high-turnover and less broad-background for technical skills. However, there are some top-notch people that rise to the top from those countries for sure. Admittedly they also are the ones trying to move out to the US or even upgrading quite a bit from say Bulgaria to Czech Republic. Regardless, there are excellent people in all countries I have found. Being a global tier one network provider we actually (as do most global companies) also need to think about geo-redundancy for almost all aspects - not just availability but security. Have to think about network compromises and such and one aspect is keeping, nut just systems, but talent spread pretty evenly globally. I have specifically hired folks from US, EU, India, etc. based on this aspect alone. There's a good old book that explains the tech industry in general quite nicely... "The World is Flat" - although a bit dated now as it was put out at the beginning of VPN and work-from anywhere employment maybe 20 years ago.
Right on. Anyone supporting H1-B’s and Indians is a fucking traitor
Said again for everyone to understand..
Anyone that supports H1-Bs, or TFWs, or any system to gives positions to others instead of the native population is a traitor and should be dealt as such. There is no way of ignoring the effects, so to suggest we need to continue them is an admission of an intent to do harm to the Nation.
Exactly. I don’t care if America is the #1 economy in the world if it means our culture is lost.
I was trying to explain this to people at dinner the other night.
i said, it depends on what you think is "The Nation".. Is the Nation just the geographic location, land and government, OR Is the Nation the people that inhabit that geographic location.
To any Nationalist, it isn't a question. Its the people stupid. IMO.
You guys know that President Trump supports those visas, right? And that he employs many migrant farm workers and domestic staff at his vineyards and resorts here on H1-b visas?
Wrong is wrong, regardless who does it.
This is a garbage statement - seriously... you have no idea what you are talking about nor do most here regarding this and the tech industry. This is not a black and white issue here whatsoever. I have worked with some absolutely excellent people from India, working here in the US on a visa. This experience of mine makes me a traitor? GTFO here with that
Where do you live?
In the US :) - where I live now isn't terribly important apart from that. I have lived a good many years in the Bay Area, CA and have moved away now. This is beside the point though. My experience isn't unique in my industry at all (telecom) and through mergers and company split-ups I have worked with people from many countries and backgrounds - we talk quite a bit about working with people from different countries. Bulgaria and India have the "cheapest" labor but it comes at the cost of high-turnover and less broad-background for technical skills. However, there are some top-notch people that rise to the top from those countries for sure. Admittedly they also are the ones trying to move out to the US or even upgrading quite a bit from say Bulgaria to Czech Republic. Regardless, there are excellent people in all countries I have found. Being a global tier one network provider we actually (as do most global companies) also need to think about geo-redundancy for almost all aspects - not just availability but security. Have to think about network compromises and such and one aspect is keeping, nut just systems, but talent spread pretty evenly globally. I have specifically hired folks from US, EU, India, etc. based on this aspect alone. There's a good old book that explains the tech industry in general quite nicely... "The World is Flat" - although a bit dated now as it was put out at the beginning of VPN and work-from anywhere employment maybe 20 years ago.
I probably should have ended this after that smiley face - NCSWIC!!!
Trump will hang them on live t.v. I bet.
President Trump supporters H1-bs. He also uses many foreign workers at his vineyards and resorts.
Are you calling President Trump a traitor?