Thanks! We always tried to avoid politics. The problem was her father cared about it that day and that particular time i needed to shut up and listen. It wasn't about whether or not i cared or what my opinion was. She just wanted me to understand where he was coming from, too.
We all need to listen, care, and understand each others feelings more. Those things are very important to the people around us.
Post removed. I understand the need to write this out, but if the friend isn’t going to even see this, it’s the wrong Forum for it. Or it could’ve gone in the General Chat, but not a thread on its own.
I’m sorry for the argument and friend loss for now. Hopefully time will heal.
Who was against flying it half mast? That’s the real hero in this story. I lost my uncle to Trump’s election, used to be a great friend, but now he thinks we’re all Nazi’s and he’s hiding with his family away from anyone who sniffs of having voted for President Trump. You will lose who you lose in these battles for morality, battles for the soul, battle for the country and it’s unfortunate, but in the end you keep your head down and press forward with those that share similar principles and values. Just remember, pain heals, chicks dig scars, and glory lasts forever.
He was against. I was for. It didn't matter. The problem was I didn't care. It was my attitude and air of superiority. All she needed me to do was shut up and listen for a while. I had the answer immediately (negative publicity, blah blah blah).
We have to shut up and listen. Just everyone needs to shut up and listen. The details don't matter. Just listen and care. I got too hot too quick. Im so sorry.
Was this friend your wife or something? Also, I have to respectfully disagree with the shut up and listen approach. We wound up as a society needing to have someone like Trump and military save us because the left decided to pounce on the shut up and listen approach and realized if they kept screaming we weren’t going to retaliate because it wasn’t in our nature to fight back. Maybe yours was an issue of superiority, but personally it’s a matter of being tired of listening and understanding that their opinion/assumptions mean literally nothing anymore. We move forward with or without them.
She is a very close friend. I felt the same way a week ago. It was simply because I didn't care. Listen and care. Listen and care. You can't take back mean words once things get heated.
Not to be harsh but that's a silly hill to die on. It's ok to have a different opinion than somebody else. Healthy debate is fine, arguing and tearing shit apart over something this menial, no. Go make things right. Communication and an open mind are your friends in this situation.
The fact that I thought the hill was silly was what started the fight.
She needed me to care about the silly hill because her father did. All I had to do was listen and care about his concerns. . . I could have disagreed later. . .
I've apologized and made amends, but the pain is still there. Time and space for healing is what's next. I just need to release this because it is tearing me up inside.
Sounds to me like there were other issues prior to this. If there wasn't, just move on. Disagreements happen in relationships, it's normal and it's ok. I do wish you the best and hope y'all work it out.
Hi fren
Can you explain this post, It's not coherent to me.
My friend and I are fighting and I am sad. That's all.
Hi fren
I hope you make it up.
Sometimes it's worth cooling it a bit with the politics analysis in front of friends. I've found that anyway.
Thanks! We always tried to avoid politics. The problem was her father cared about it that day and that particular time i needed to shut up and listen. It wasn't about whether or not i cared or what my opinion was. She just wanted me to understand where he was coming from, too.
We all need to listen, care, and understand each others feelings more. Those things are very important to the people around us.
The cabal has done a very good job of dividing us hasn't it!
thats exactly what i wanted to communicate. She and I both knew it, too.
It’s okay brother, I’ll get this one.
Post removed. I understand the need to write this out, but if the friend isn’t going to even see this, it’s the wrong Forum for it. Or it could’ve gone in the General Chat, but not a thread on its own.
I’m sorry for the argument and friend loss for now. Hopefully time will heal.
Thanks brother!
WTF?
Who was against flying it half mast? That’s the real hero in this story. I lost my uncle to Trump’s election, used to be a great friend, but now he thinks we’re all Nazi’s and he’s hiding with his family away from anyone who sniffs of having voted for President Trump. You will lose who you lose in these battles for morality, battles for the soul, battle for the country and it’s unfortunate, but in the end you keep your head down and press forward with those that share similar principles and values. Just remember, pain heals, chicks dig scars, and glory lasts forever.
He was against. I was for. It didn't matter. The problem was I didn't care. It was my attitude and air of superiority. All she needed me to do was shut up and listen for a while. I had the answer immediately (negative publicity, blah blah blah).
We have to shut up and listen. Just everyone needs to shut up and listen. The details don't matter. Just listen and care. I got too hot too quick. Im so sorry.
Was this friend your wife or something? Also, I have to respectfully disagree with the shut up and listen approach. We wound up as a society needing to have someone like Trump and military save us because the left decided to pounce on the shut up and listen approach and realized if they kept screaming we weren’t going to retaliate because it wasn’t in our nature to fight back. Maybe yours was an issue of superiority, but personally it’s a matter of being tired of listening and understanding that their opinion/assumptions mean literally nothing anymore. We move forward with or without them.
She is a very close friend. I felt the same way a week ago. It was simply because I didn't care. Listen and care. Listen and care. You can't take back mean words once things get heated.
Not to be harsh but that's a silly hill to die on. It's ok to have a different opinion than somebody else. Healthy debate is fine, arguing and tearing shit apart over something this menial, no. Go make things right. Communication and an open mind are your friends in this situation.
The fact that I thought the hill was silly was what started the fight.
She needed me to care about the silly hill because her father did. All I had to do was listen and care about his concerns. . . I could have disagreed later. . .
I've apologized and made amends, but the pain is still there. Time and space for healing is what's next. I just need to release this because it is tearing me up inside.
Hopefully someone can learn from my mistake.
Sounds to me like there were other issues prior to this. If there wasn't, just move on. Disagreements happen in relationships, it's normal and it's ok. I do wish you the best and hope y'all work it out.
Yea that’s where my head was at, either that or this is an age or terminal illness thing where a loss of a friend is way more impactful
Thanks! It is just time for us to separate a bit. We'll be friends again once some time passes.