Aircraft navigate the globe applying the fundamental premise that the Earth is a sphere. I have flown around the World many times and marvel at the contours below from my preferred window seat.
Satellites are positioned around a globe not a pancake
Is that it? That's the conclusive proof? You flew in passenger planes, therefore the Earth is a ball?
Hardly quod erat demonstrandum.
You have to show your workings, rather than relying upon Grand Canyon size leaps of faith.
I am not so foolish or so blind as to suggest I know whether the OP makes sense or not. All I'm interested is in hearing more. I know I've seen evidence that calls into question the veracity of the ball earth idea, and I haven't seen proof from any trustworthy sourced that proves the theory. That just means I'm keeping an open mind and I want more data.
In the same way that I know that the louder people try to shout me down about my inquisitiveness about the veracity of climate change, the less I'm inclined to listen to the dogma. The ball earth theory has so many of the same people shouting in the same way, that the louder and more emotionally they shout, the more I suspect them of lying.
My approach after the past 10 years of vast lies is to keep an open mind about everything but especially the things you were told not to question.
You have never flown in a plane, and have no understanding of the geometry of satellite positioning. Got it. I'll bet you think the moon is flat too. How do you explain the existence of ocean tides without relying upon the gravitational influences of two spheres in rotation acting upon each others' masses?
Since I have flown all over the world and transited many corridors of flight I have the personal appreciation of having been able to see and perceive the curvature of the earth in all positions as flown in an assortment of generally linear directions. Had you had this experience yourself, what you struggle with as only theory for you at this point in your life would be able to be better appreciated as fact.
Seeing is believing. No leap of faith necessary. Just a basic command of mathematical reasoning, Geometry, and Geography.
Got it. Despite the fact that I have flown "around" the world multiple times. And given your lacks of tolerance for ambiguity, I suspect I have studied far more than you and am certainly better educated.
I am now going to follow Mark Twain's advice about attempting to engage with people of your ilk.
God be with you and keep on doing any good things that you do by frequenting this wonderful forum.
If you have ever actually flown around the world as I have multiple times, you would know that the fact of a spherical earth is not a mere theory. No pilot may navigate the globe with the assumption that the earth is flat. Period.
Unless you hold 3 STEM degrees at bachelors and graduate levels and an MBA, I suspect that you do not have as much formal education, as I do. As though that matters. That said, the fact of the spherical dimensionality of the Earth is not a heavy lift for most sufficiently educated people.
If your "God be with you" is not just a throw away line, when the Scripture says in Psalm 103:12 "As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us," that promise must be true from any given point on the surface of this Earth.
If the Earth was flat, assuming the known curvature of the Earth calculated at ~ 12500 miles, the maximum linear E-W distance possible without being a spherical globe (imagine an orange cut in half) would mean that God would be limited to separating you from your sin to only a distance of 12500 miles; however, sin is removed eternally, without limit, and in perpetuity, signifying that East chases West or the West, East in perpetuity. Therefore "East from West" may only be determined at a fixed point on Earth if Earth is a sphere.
The only way the East from West concept may be universally true for man is if the "circle of the Earth" spoken of in Isaiah 40:22 is a sphere: " It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in."
Just curious: do you contend that any of the other planets, their moons, and the Sun in our solar system may be flat also? If not why not? Do you agree that their rotations and surfaces are readily acknowledged to be spherical through observation (e.g., pictures taken from the Voyager 1 and 2 craft as they did planet and moon pass by's)? Is there a flat planet anywhere that has been observed that can support your speculation about the Earth being flat? If the Earth is flat, yet none of the other planets in the solar system are observed to be flat, given observed gravitational forces to which I alluded earlier, how would you account for the reason that the Earth would be flat, when gravitational forces of heavenly bodies pull in all directions, and allow for flights of spaceships into deep space to be possible at all?
Given your admission to having accomplished some world wide travel yourself, what did the flip side of the earth look like? Is there an East Pole and a West Pole? When the pilot of your plane flew did he do so in part as oriented in his cockpit compass to a magnetic North or to a magnetic East or West?
If the questions I have asked and my explanations I have furnished continue to puzzle you, how about writing Elon Musk a letter at SpaceX and see if you can get his opinion on whether he designed his rockets and their guidance systems with the basic premise that the Earth is spherical.
Aircraft navigate the globe applying the fundamental premise that the Earth is a sphere. I have flown around the World many times and marvel at the contours below from my preferred window seat.
Satellites are positioned around a globe not a pancake
Perhaps you have never flown in an airplane?
Is that it? That's the conclusive proof? You flew in passenger planes, therefore the Earth is a ball?
Hardly quod erat demonstrandum.
You have to show your workings, rather than relying upon Grand Canyon size leaps of faith.
I am not so foolish or so blind as to suggest I know whether the OP makes sense or not. All I'm interested is in hearing more. I know I've seen evidence that calls into question the veracity of the ball earth idea, and I haven't seen proof from any trustworthy sourced that proves the theory. That just means I'm keeping an open mind and I want more data.
In the same way that I know that the louder people try to shout me down about my inquisitiveness about the veracity of climate change, the less I'm inclined to listen to the dogma. The ball earth theory has so many of the same people shouting in the same way, that the louder and more emotionally they shout, the more I suspect them of lying.
My approach after the past 10 years of vast lies is to keep an open mind about everything but especially the things you were told not to question.
You have never flown in a plane, and have no understanding of the geometry of satellite positioning. Got it. I'll bet you think the moon is flat too. How do you explain the existence of ocean tides without relying upon the gravitational influences of two spheres in rotation acting upon each others' masses?
Since I have flown all over the world and transited many corridors of flight I have the personal appreciation of having been able to see and perceive the curvature of the earth in all positions as flown in an assortment of generally linear directions. Had you had this experience yourself, what you struggle with as only theory for you at this point in your life would be able to be better appreciated as fact.
Seeing is believing. No leap of faith necessary. Just a basic command of mathematical reasoning, Geometry, and Geography.
Study harder.
Got it. Despite the fact that I have flown "around" the world multiple times. And given your lacks of tolerance for ambiguity, I suspect I have studied far more than you and am certainly better educated.
I am now going to follow Mark Twain's advice about attempting to engage with people of your ilk.
God be with you and keep on doing any good things that you do by frequenting this wonderful forum.
If you have ever actually flown around the world as I have multiple times, you would know that the fact of a spherical earth is not a mere theory. No pilot may navigate the globe with the assumption that the earth is flat. Period.
Unless you hold 3 STEM degrees at bachelors and graduate levels and an MBA, I suspect that you do not have as much formal education, as I do. As though that matters. That said, the fact of the spherical dimensionality of the Earth is not a heavy lift for most sufficiently educated people.
If your "God be with you" is not just a throw away line, when the Scripture says in Psalm 103:12 "As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us," that promise must be true from any given point on the surface of this Earth.
If the Earth was flat, assuming the known curvature of the Earth calculated at ~ 12500 miles, the maximum linear E-W distance possible without being a spherical globe (imagine an orange cut in half) would mean that God would be limited to separating you from your sin to only a distance of 12500 miles; however, sin is removed eternally, without limit, and in perpetuity, signifying that East chases West or the West, East in perpetuity. Therefore "East from West" may only be determined at a fixed point on Earth if Earth is a sphere.
The only way the East from West concept may be universally true for man is if the "circle of the Earth" spoken of in Isaiah 40:22 is a sphere: " It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in."
Just curious: do you contend that any of the other planets, their moons, and the Sun in our solar system may be flat also? If not why not? Do you agree that their rotations and surfaces are readily acknowledged to be spherical through observation (e.g., pictures taken from the Voyager 1 and 2 craft as they did planet and moon pass by's)? Is there a flat planet anywhere that has been observed that can support your speculation about the Earth being flat? If the Earth is flat, yet none of the other planets in the solar system are observed to be flat, given observed gravitational forces to which I alluded earlier, how would you account for the reason that the Earth would be flat, when gravitational forces of heavenly bodies pull in all directions, and allow for flights of spaceships into deep space to be possible at all?
Given your admission to having accomplished some world wide travel yourself, what did the flip side of the earth look like? Is there an East Pole and a West Pole? When the pilot of your plane flew did he do so in part as oriented in his cockpit compass to a magnetic North or to a magnetic East or West?
If the questions I have asked and my explanations I have furnished continue to puzzle you, how about writing Elon Musk a letter at SpaceX and see if you can get his opinion on whether he designed his rockets and their guidance systems with the basic premise that the Earth is spherical.