There are far too many people who have bought into one story or another about viruses.
Natural virus, man-made virus, lab-leaked virus, it doesn't matter. These are all false stories.
This virus "thing" is something we all learned at a very young age. A dangerous virus is floating around in the air, it "gets you" by entering your lungs, somehow causes you to get sick with something (cold, flu, measles, chicken pox, HIV, herpes, whatever), and you are sick from the virus. You can transmit it to others by coughing, sneezing, etc.
We have all been taught this from before we can remember, and our parents, family, friends, teachers, media, schools, and everyone else in society was taught it, too. But ...
IT IS WRONG.
How do I KNOW it is wrong? That's what this thread is about.
First, two quotes:
"He who fails to learn from history is condemned to repeat it." -- George Santayana
"The reason we fail to learn from history is that we are lied to about history." -- Harry Browne
You have been lied to. Maybe innocently. Maybe knowingly.
I was, too. We all were.
There are no viruses, no variants, no antibody protections, no viral shedding, no need for masks or lock downs or any other abusive tyranny.
Yes, people DO get sick.
But no, it is not due to a virus.
Almost nobody is looking into other explanations for illness because everyone bought into the virus story.
To be fair, even virologists themselves don't understand this completely -- that they are engaged in a fake, pseudoscience (though it has always been their responsibility to "do science," not dogma).
What about the "experts," such as Robert Malone, who created the MRNA technology, Peter McCullough, Judy Mikovitz, and others who all are confident that viruses exist, are harmful, and made by government for evil purposes?
When challenged, none of them can explain the basic things I will explain here.
All of these people (and more) have been challenged to debate this issue by the "no virus exists" side, and none of them have been willing to do it.
QUICK HISTORY OF VIRUSES AND VIROLOGY
It started about 150 years ago. Researchers had discovered bacteria. They found that when a sick person's blood was studied in a microscope, they found bacteria in the blood.
They (falsely) jumped to the conclusion that the bacteria must be the cause of illness. They never considered that maybe the bacteria came into the blood as a reaction to whatever caused the illness.
If you see a house on fire with firemen around it, do you conclude that the firemen started to fire? Or is it possible they are there to handle the problem? Could bacteria have a similar function? They never seriously considered this concept.
"Germ Theory" was born, which stated that microorganisms are the cause of sickness. Louis Pasteur was the promoter of this theory. The mainstream scientific and medical communities went with Pasteur's theory.
But Pasteur, it turns out, was a fraud. His personal diaries were released (by his son-in-law, who hated him), and it was found that Pasteur wrote in his diaries that none of his experiments actually worked. He rigged everything to get the results that he expected from his theory. So, Germ Theory, which is what all doctors today believe is valid, was a fraud from the beginning.
But they had a problem. Some people were sick, but without any bacteria in their blood. The conclusion was that there must be something even smaller than bacteria, that we cannot see even with a microscope, which is causing the sickness. They called this unseen, invisible thing "virus," which is Latin for "poison."
Over the next several decades, many attempts were made to prove this thing called a virus existed. They could never find it. They tried to prove it existed by proving sick people could transmit their sickness to healthy people. During the Spanish Flu of 1917-18, they put sick people in rooms with healthy people, had them cough, put the saliva and snot of the sick people into the mouths of the healthy people, even used blood transfusions, but they could never make a healthy person sick. NOT ONE TIME.
To this day, there is NO scientific study proving that a sick person can make a healthy person sick.
HOW BACTERIA ARE STUDIED
To understand how the deception works, let's look at how they study bacteria. Yes, bacteria are real. They take a sample of bodily fluid from someone they think has the bacteria, and filter out the large chunks of stuff. Then, they put the remaining fluid into a centrifuge with layers of sugar water with different densities. They spin it at a high rate, and the molecules in the sample are pushed into the density layer that is the closest match for each molecule.
Then, they find where the bacteria layer is, suck it out, wash off the water, and they are left with nothing but the bacteria. Now, they have ONLY the bacteria, which all have the same morphology -- same size and shape.
THIS is what is known as "isolating" the bacteria. Once they have isolated the bacteria from that original bodily fluid, they can study it, run a genetic sequence, etc.
That is how you ISOLATE something. You remove the one thing from everything else, so it is the ONLY thing you have to work with.
But that is NOT how they "find" a virus.
HOW VIRUSES ARE STUDIED
For viruses, they do not do this. They claim they can't do this because "there is not enough there." Which begs the question: How do you KNOW it is there, at all?
Here is what they do to "find" a virus.
STEP 1 -- CREATE A MIXTURE OF STUFF -- "FIND" THE VIRUS
They start with a bodily fluid of a sick person. They filter out the big chunks.
But they never isolate anything. Instead, they ADD a MIXTURE OF STUFF to the bodily fluid.
Now, theoretically, there COULD be a virus in the bodily fluid, but they never attempt to isolate it. Instead, they add to this fluid multiple items, including antibiotics that are toxic to kidney cells (key point), bovine serum (which has its own DNA), and other items. They mix this together and then spread it onto "vero cells" (a fancy term for "monkey kidney cells").
They wait a few days, and the vero cells die.
Then they say, "Ah ha! The vero cells died because there was a virus in the bodily fluid sample that killed the cells!"
THIS IS THEIR "PROOF" THAT THE VIRUS EXISTS.
Let me be clear: This is the ONLY way that a virologist "proves" that a virus exists.
They never consider the idea that those antibiotics (that are toxic to kidney cells) MIGHT have killed the kidney cells.
This has been the ONLY way they "do virology" for 70 years, since 1954, when John Enders came up with this method. Virology was dead by the 1920's because nobody could find or prove anything. But Enders revived it with this process, which has been used by EVERY virologist to "find" EVERY virus since then.
This has been the history of virology since 1954, until 2021 when a virologist had the bright idea of doing a CONTROL STUDY to find out if this process is even valid. More on that later.
STEP 2 -- SUBJECT THE STUFF TO AN ELECTRON MICROSCOPE -- "SEE" THE VIRUS
Once they "find" a virus, they want to "see" what it looks like.
All they have is a mixture of dead cells and other stuff, which doesn't look like much.
So, they use an electron microscope to supposedly take an image of the virus.
The EM is not like a regular microscope. You cannot simply look through it to see a sample of something. It is a very different process. Here is what they do.
They freeze the mixture to very low temperatures. They color it with a dye. Then, they hit it with electrons, and that creates an image in a photo they can see.
They are no longer looking at the "thing," but rather at an image produced by this process.
What they see are dead cells, some of which have what look like spikes protruding from the cells.
This is what they claim is the "spike protein." It looks like a crown with spikes, which is why it is called "corona" virus -- Spanish for crown.
But what ARE those protrusions? Are they a virus or spikes from a virus? Or are they simply dead tissue, which was ejected from the dying cells? These are called exosomes. It is known that cells eject material from within when they are dying -- especially when poisoned. It is thought to be some sort of communication of warning to other cells that there is poison around here.
Virologists never consider this. They ASSUME they are looking at a picture of a virus.
STEP 3 -- CREATE THE GENETIC SEQUENCE OF THE VIRUS OR VARIANT -- MAKE IT SEEM VERY SCIENTIFIC
What about the genetic sequencing of viruses and variants?
They use PCR and a computer program to do this.
I won't get too much into PCR, but will say that most people here know it is not a valid diagnostic tool. On further research, it turns out it actually has no useful purpose AT ALL.
The concept is that you can start with a molecule of something and make copies of that something very quickly. This is done by running it through cycles of heating and cooling. Each cycle doubles the amount of material. After 10 cycles, you have 1,000x. After 20 cycles, you have 1,000,000x, etc.
Turns out, it does NOT make EXACT duplicates. The process itself CREATES additional fragments of DNA, which were never there in the original. It would be like running 1,000 copies of a page in a copy machine, but the output is pages that have added letters and symbols there were never in the original.
This process of creating new strands of material that were never in the original is how they come up with a "new variant."
Keep in mind, they NEVER had an ISOLATED VIRUS in the first place.
I could run a computer program to come up with a genetic sequence of a unicorn. Start with a horse, run the PCR, create new stuff that was never there, and end up with something different.
Abracadabra! I claim to have "found the genetic sequence of a unicorn!" But I never had an actual, real world unicorn to compare my sequence to, so it is nothing but hot air and theory.
There is nothing real about ANY of the genetic sequences because they NEVER have an ISOLATED SAMPLE of the virus to start with or to compare it to.
NOBODY IN THE WORLD HAS A SAMPLE OF ANY ISOLATED VIRUS -- AND NOBODY KNOWS OF ANY PUBLISHED PAPER THAT SHOWS ANY VIRUS HAS EVER BEEN ISOLATED
More than 100 government agencies (FDA, CDC, foreign governments), university virology laboratories, and other virology laboratories around the world have been asked, via FOIA and similar requests, these questions about SARS-CoV-2, measles, chicken pox, Ebola, and other viruses:
- Do you have any sample of this isolated virus?
- Do you know of any lab that has a sample of this isolated virus?
- Do you know of any paper that has been published, which demonstrates the isolation of this virus?
ALL of the responses, in writing, have been, "No."
2021 - THE LANKA EXPERIMENT -- PROVING THAT VIROLOGY IS FAKE SCIENCE
In April 2021, German virologist Stefan Lanka and his team decided to do the first (in 70 years!) control test to answer questions about whether virologists are REALLY finding viruses or if their method is what creates the end result, which they only THINK is a virus.
They did two experiments.
First, they took the bodily fluid of a person with measles. Then, they followed the process described above, creating the mixture. The monkey kidney cells died, and they used the EM to capture the images.
Second, they did the exact same thing, but this time WITHOUT any bodily fluid from any human. They started by creating the mixture of all those other things, but without any bodily fluid from anyone. If there was a virus in the sick person's fluid, then they should get a different result, since there can't be any virus in this second experiment. The result?
They got the EXACT SAME RESULTS.
The monkey kidney cells died, just as in the first experiment, and the EM images were identical.
This PROVES that it is not a "virus" that kills the cells or produces the "spike" images, but rather it is the PROCESS ITSELF that virologists use that does it.
They only THINK they are witnessing the effects of a virus, and seeing it in the EM images.
But they are mistaken.
CYTOPATHIC EFFECT + CELLULAR DEBRIS + PCR = VIROLOGY IS A FAKE SCIENCE
"Cytopathic Effect" is the term used to describe how the PROCESS used is what breaks down and kills the monkey kidney cells. Those antibiotics are probably what actually kills the kidney cells. The EM images only appear to be spikes from a "virus," but are nothing more than cellular debris from the cells pushing out material while they are dying.
The PCR creates its own DNA fragments, which are used to claim that a new ("novel") genetic sequence has been found.
There is no virus.
Virology is nothing but a fraudulent pseudoscience.
QUESTIONS
Q: OK, so why do I get sick?
A: As long as everyone drinks the virus kool aid, nobody is really trying to answer this question. Could be a lot of things. 70% of Americans are fat, and about 30% are obese or morbidly obese. Most who "died of Covid" had co-morbidities. Could it be that the garbage you have been pushing down your gut for decades creates toxins within your own body, then your body needs to detox, and that is what we call sickness? Could it be that Winter brings less sunshine, which means less Vitamin D, and that triggers a detox? Could it be 5G or other electromagnetic pulses from your TVs, microwave, smartphones, computers, all the electronics in your home add to the toxicity in your environment? Chemicals in your furniture and carpet? Could this be why everyone in your house gets sick at the same time? Maybe humans communicate sickness to each other the way cells do as they die off to warn the other cells of poison in the environment?
If nobody is looking for answers, nobody will find them.
Q: What about so-and-so who claimed to "isolate" the virus?
A: Those claims are false because they are abusing the definition of "isolate." Rather than using "isolate" to mean the separation of one thing from all other things, they are claiming that if they take a bodily fluid of ONE PERSON, then they have "isolated the virus" because it is only from that person. Yes, they have isolated the bodily fluid from the person, but they have NOT isolated the "virus" from the fluid.
We have been lied to about what really makes us sick.
We need to get this right, because if we don't, the medical terrorists will try to psyop you again and again, and try to enslave you.
In-depth video to back up what I have said:
https://rumble.com/vtd2cf-cov-myths-exposed-scientists-prove-sars-cov-2-cov-dont-exist.html
Massive website of resources:
Well done!
It is a very good resume.
PCR: with copying, you get changed material.
You example of running a page 100 through the copier is very nice, but is not exactly equal to PCR.
You start with 1 example, and copy it. That is your first cycle. Your second cycle is to take the copy and copy that. ad nauseam. You will find that letter and graphics change and some things will be missing at your final copy.
For instance, when you OCR a page in a certain font, you may find that the letter
m
may have changed torn
Live example? Comey became Corney. SO, when using the
CTRl+F
search function it would not yield any result if the search string would have been:Comey
In effect, this is what happens to a PCR process. Especially, when they go through the max cycles.
Talking with my neighbor, who until recently ran a state public health lab, my doubts about PCR testing came up. She went off with, "Do you know who you are talking to?" "We rely on PCR all the time!" and so on.
That all may be, but until you explain to me why the Nobel Prize winning inventor of the PCR himself said that it is worthless as a diagnostic, none of your general appeals to experience mean anything.
It didn't convince her, but it did quiet her down. You would think that a professional might be interested in finding out if my claim was factual. But no. The brainwashing is deep.
Yeah ... A typical;: acceptance of something to be totally true, just because they are used to it.
The reason for it differs from person to person.
A friend of mine is a typical: if it does not conform to my standard, it cannot be true. Back in 2019 I told him what would be happening, and he denied it.
Now he's denying his denial .... hahahaha ....
So, First, with perfect timing, I mirrored his behavior, and he was like: WTF? Then I showed him how this works in his HD chart. This time he was blown away ... The need for fixed mental positions (empty ajna) coupled to a defined sacral and identity chakra, tied to the throat. And it comes out, whether they like it or not. It does not mean they function correctly ... but hey ... it makes for some fireworks ...
The only way I know that sometimes can shake them out of their total brainwashing is to ask nicely (not smugly), "Would you say that you know everything there is to know about this topic?"
No honest person can say yes.
If they can acknowledge that there might be something new they could learn, then you can go through an explanation of your position.
That has worked to some degree for me -- but even then, it usually just makes them quiet and thinking, but it won't immediately change their mind.
As you said, the brainwashing is deep ... REALLY deep.
I saw Judy Mikovitz do a collaberation Zoom call with Tom Cowan and Andy Kaufman.
She was adamant about how important her work on HIV was.
They were trying to explain to her that the PROCESS she (and all others) used to "study" it was flawed.
She really could not grasp that concept, having been deep into the Kool Aid for 40 years.
That's amazing. I stopped listening to her when she started talking about viral shedding. Please.
A few others are Peter McCullough, Robert Malone and Steve Kersh. They all produce a lot of good material for the freedom side, but just can't (or won't) let go of the virus fantasy.
Right.
And they have been challenged to debate it, but refuse to do so.
When challenged by a neutral journalist to explain why the "no virus" side is wrong, their answers are laughable. They have nothing to say, and clearly do not understand the issues -- or if they do, they ignore them.
Reminds me of the documentary "House of Numbers." For anyone who has not seen it, it is a must. Several "experts" (including Fauci) are asked questions, which they clearly cannot answer, though they try to BS their way through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsT4GrimfLQ
That was roughly 20 years ago.
They have no more real answers today than they ever had -- which is none.
Haven't seen it. Thanks.
Electron microscopy in its basic form, of which the EM part of your post seems to be describing, is almost 100 years old.
Since then, there have been so many advances in both magnification, and sample preparation.
Using a scanning transmission electron microscope (stem), with abberation correction, we are now able to image material down to the atomic scale.
Also, while crypto-sectioning (or “freezing” as you called it), is still used in many sample preps, there are multiple procedures used to prevent the formation of ice crystals which would disrupt the cellular structures.
While you mentioned specifically that “spikes” are created through the preparation process by damaging the cell wall, there are numerous images out there of different viruses that don’t have said spikes.
Nowadays we have correlated light and electron microscopy (CLEM) which allows live imaging to see how viruses interact with other cells and replicate: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1046202315001668
Edit: “cryo-sectioning” not Crypto-s…
Virologist welcomed the electronic microscope with anticipation, because at last their, until then, theoretical creation was going to be revealed. Except it didn't happen. No virus could be found, which put virology on the path to extinction. Until John Enders published a paper extolling the Cytopathogenic Effect (CPE) by which the presence of a virus could be inferred. Not seen, but inferred.
Also in the paper, Enders conducted for the first and only time, a control experiment. Unfortunately for virologists, the control revealed the same CPEs as did the actual experiment. There was no difference! Because no control experiments are ever, nor can they ever be done, virology is an out and out pseudo science.
Enders received a nobel for his work. I have older friends and family who’ve suffered from polio. However, I don’t know anybody my age or younger who’ve suffered from polio; so that dude (dr Enders) must’ve done something right!
If you believe that dna testing is real, then keep in mind that DNA/RNA sequencing is on a much smaller nanoscale than the size of viruses.
We’re able to image atoms now.
Right, and Obama received a Nobel prize for doing nothing.
My mother's cousin had polio back in the day, and overcame it. Polio was caused by chemical poisoning.
That's because they changed the name.
The condition is a paralysis of some kind, and that still exists, but under different names (Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Bell's Palsy, Acute Flaccid Myelitis). It is essentially the same health problem, but they no longer use the term "polio."
In no case has any virus ever been isolated and been shown to cause polio or any of these other problems.
That is not valid logic. I hope you can see that.
What makes you think those are actual, real viruses?
Based on your post, we both agree that the technology existed (microscopes) at the time (mid-late1800s), to discover and identify bacteria. But that tech couldn’t detect what we now know to be viruses; therefore we thought it must have been poison (virus in latin).
Humanity wasn’t flying in the skies at the time (airplanes), but we were looking at tiny single celled organisms (bacteria).
As technology improved, we gained the ability to see smaller things, and what we once perceived to be poison, was discovered to be tiny capsules (it’s still debated whether these are actual “living” things), but what we found is that they primarily target bacteria and prevent bacteria from infecting everything on earth and destroying complex life.
BTW viruses as we understand them in the modern era, don’t particularly infect eukaryotic organisms (complex cells) but target prokaryotic cells (single celled organisms like bacteria). Yes there are viruses that infect complex organisms, but viruses mostly keep bacteria in check!
So yes, I think those images are real….
No, that has not been proven.
The process to study a virus is what creates the result that is claimed to be the virus.
BTW, although I haven't looked into it as much, I suspect that all (or almost all) bacteria are beneficial, not harmful.
Bacteria are the janitors of the Earth, eating dead flesh and other material. We have a lot of bacteria on and in our bodies, and they are there to keep us healthy.
However, as bacteria eat dead stuff, they have a digestive tract that produces waste material.
That waste material is what can be, in some cases, toxic to us.
So, my initial reaction to your statement about preventing bacteria from infecting things seems a little inaccurate, to me. But I do recognize something called a "bacterial infection." It's just that I'm not 100% sure we have a correct understanding of what that really is.
Brave post OP. Anymore I just roll my eyes when viruses come up. The one exception is when Anons toot our horn over the slow reveal that SAR-CV-2 escaped from Wuhan like it's some kind of win for us. One would think that by now Anons would recognize a limited hangout when they see one.
TPTB will give up a lot before they give up their precious virus -- their cheap, powerful, invisible weapon of choice.
Exactly! I have made that point, as well.
What's bad? A deadly virus that will get us all.
What's worse? A deadly virus that was man-made.
Whats worse than that? A deadly virus that was man-made by our own government.
Worse than that? It was secretly made by the military, and then shipped offshore for secrecy.
Worse than that? It was deliberatly "let loose" on the world (never mind that the people who made it and let it loose are ALSO in danger ... hmm ...).
Worse than that? It also has HIV or SV40 or any number of other boogey man stuff, too.
But worst of all is the one narrative they will NEVER allow people to go to: It was all imaginary in the first place, for the specific purpose of terrorism to induce fear, so they could inject people with mystery drugs, and have the people say, "Yes sir, may I have another?"
100%.
Look at how unhinged they have become over the public finding out about their secret money slush funds.
Imagine if the public found out about this psychological warfare operation they pulled off -- to rig an election and to get people to inject THEMSELVES with dangerous and undisclosed mystery drug cocktails.
Whether they exist or not, the resulting shenanigans sure do. Good read, thanks.
I have read your post and the comments and I agree with you. Do you know or have you studied what they are making or doing in these gain of function labs? What kind of parasites are being developed?
Well, since it is all secret, it is up for anyone's guess.
I can think of a few possibilities.
(1) Could be research to figure out how to create a "vaccine" cocktail to cause death or damage, especially to certain people of certain genetic types -- the "undesirables"
(2) Could be that they really believe that viruses are real (I think people like Fauci really ARE that ignorant of the latest research), and they are trying to create bad viruses. Would that be to figure out how to stop such things that they think might develop in the "wild," or are they playing Dr. Evil and want to unleash them?
Perhaps most likely is:
(3) A bunch of bozos have this giant pot of money, and they may have all sorts of theories about doing this or that, but the #1 thing they KNOW is they have this big pot of money, and that can buy some nice toys and retirement funds via "consulting fees" and "research grants" and such. IOW: yet another corrupt money slush fund.
Gain of function research needs to be audited to find out where the money went, and the labs need to be investigated -- if there is anything left to investigate.
Ultimately, your guess is as good as mine.
I'll make this simple: We get "sick" when we are lacking in one or more of the 51 essential nutrients our bodies MUST HAVE to function properly. If there is a lack, the body suffers and various "symptoms" arise. Given the nutrient(s) lacking, the body comes back into equilibrium and is no longer "sick", or perhaps it continues being "sick" because there is damage to some part or parts of the body, or other ill effects have ocurred. This is "sickness". And, the same sort of thing happens to our mind/brain when it is malnourished. This is "craziness". So, sick and crazy are two words which are used to explain nutrient malnourishment. "All disease begins in the gut". Truer words were never spoken. And these words were utters in Ancient Greece by Hippocrates.
Quick search Pay attention to the first sentence.
Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites, which by definition contain either a RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective, virus-coded protein coat. Viruses may be viewed as mobile genetic elements, most probably of cellular origin and characterized by a long co-evolution of virus and host. For propagation viruses depend on specialized host cells supplying the complex metabolic and biosynthetic machinery of eukaryotic or prokaryotic cells. A complete virus particle is called a virion. The main function of the virion is to deliver its DNA or RNA genome into the host cell so that the genome can be expressed (transcribed and translated) by the host cell. The viral genome, often with associated basic proteins, is packaged inside a symmetric protein capsid. The nucleic acid-associated protein, called nucleoprotein, together with the genome, forms the nucleocapsid. In enveloped viruses, the nucleocapsid is surrounded by a lipid bilayer derived from the modified host cell membrane and studded with an outer layer of virus envelope glycoproteins.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21413309/
You did not read the post, which means you do not understand it.
Your "source" is a mainstream cut-and-paste job, and so you have no idea why the first sentence is wrong.
If you are that lazy, don't bother getting involved in this discussion. Your disrespect only shows that this subject must be way over your head.
Don't bother asking me if I give damn what you think… You’re the one talking down! Thats disrespect!
You are the one with the disrespect because you did nothing more than read the title, decided you disagreed with the title, and found a page to cut-and-paste.
Clearly, you do not understand the topic, but you think you can "refute" all I wrote with something as simplistic as what you did.
BTW, I also don't give a damn what you think.
Because you don't have the integrity to read, understand, and THEN refute.
Fren your so busy working to put me down and make assumptions to prove your point that you missed the whole point of my post.
I chose simple sourced data to prove a point that you totally missed , that was somewhat in agreement to your post. I pointed directly to it, to no avail.
“Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites, which by definition contain either a RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective, virus-coded protein coat.”
Now remove the word Virus and insert whatever you want about sickness. Hidden in plain site as always.
Parasites and Bacteria. Single cell or clusters. Some Good Some Bad. Some need a host some don't.
IVM and other anti parasitics are effective on of both. Proven.
I did read your post and understand it. We went over this 3-4 years ago on GAW here.
No, I didn't miss anything. You are the one missing the point.
Because you did not take the time to read my post, you do not understand the concepts I put forth.
For that reason, you will easily fall for any mainstream publication that CLAIMS to support the existence of viruses.
YOU said to pay attention to the first sentence.
But YOU do not understand WHY that first sentence is FALSE.
That is the CLAIM that the mainstream narrative promotes.
BUT THEY HAVE NEVER PROVEN THAT CLAIM.
That is a BIG part of what my post was all about -- but you did not offer me the respect of even reading it and understanding it.
IF you were to read my post, and understand MY position, THEN I would WELCOME you to refute what I wrote.
I want to know the TRUTH. If I am wrong, so be it, and I will adjust my viewpoint.
But YOU do not even understand what I wrote, so you are INCAPABLE of refuting it.
IF you take the time to understand it, THEN we can debate it.
Not until then.
I don't believe you -- especially when you change the subject to parasites and bactera, which have nothing at all to do with what I wrote, other than using the study of bacteria to compare and contrast what is done in virology.
You seriously think credentialed individuals from within the very area being criticized make for some sort of counter argument? This is the lamest of arguments from authority. What you copied without really digesting, is just a run-on definition that in no way addresses any of the OP's points.
interesting read. especially the Louis Pasteur part.