"We buy billions of dollars of goods from China per year and China buys trillions of dollars of our debt." I read that in a book today and it got me thinking how President Trump has got a good hold on the gonads of the Chinese government. If and when the truth about our national debt becomes appearant to the vast majority of the American people, they will rise up and say "It isn't our debt, it was stolen and given to the deep state". Then the courts step in and rule that the trillions of dollars of national debt was indeed accrued by fraudulent means and rules that the debt is null and void because "FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING". Think how the Chinese government (and any other government) feels right now knowing that they are holding worthless pieces of IOU's that the American government will never pay back. They were probably counting on using those Trillions in the future to prop up their own illegal governments and now the rug is going to be pulled out from under them. This gives President Trump a lot of leverage over business rivals and military rivals. If they cannot build weapon systems then they cannot go up against the US military. They have to play by America's rules or their governments will collapse. It's an interesting philosophical dilemma to ponder about the Chinese holding our debt.
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Many millions of Chinese Bonds are held by U.S. citizens from the Nationalist Govt of China. They borrowed the money to build infrastructure in China. So when it comes to debt remember they owe us more.
China has about $770B of US debt. But considering that they have been papering over a financial collapse for years, a shock like rendering that debt worthless would send them into a tailspin. Even if Trump thought about it out loud, they would be in crisis.
Between the FED and China we stand to have fraud knock out a big chunk of our debt: As of February 12, 2025, the Federal Reserve holds approximately $4.27 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities. In addition to Treasury securities, the Fed holds about $2.18 trillion in mortgage-backed securities, bringing its total balance sheet to approximately $6.9 trillion.
Screw China for their part in the COVID scam AND all the research they stole from us. We should not pay them 1 cent.
sucks to be them
I repay my debts, and I know its wrong, but "we let this happen" Once the ongoing theft is stopped and government is corralled it shouldnt be impossible to fullfil our legal & valid obligations.