Here is a resent survey about the Finns' opinion on NATO:
Nine out of ten are positive about Finland’s membership in NATO
The ABDI asked for the first time views on membership in NATO since Finland joined the Alliance in April 2023.
Nine out of ten hold a positive view, half or 51 per cent are very positive about it while over one third or 37 per cent hold a fairly positive view.
Eighty-eight per cent of men and 87 per cent of women hold a positive view. Of those over 50 years of age, 91 per cent think this way; of the 35 to 49 years of age 88 per cent; of those younger than 25 years of age 82 per cent and of the 25 to 34 years of age 81 per cent are of this opinion.
Ninety-nine per cent of Coalition Party supporters are in favour of the membership while 92 per cent of Finns Party supporters, 91 per cent of Centre Party and SDP supporters, 89 per cent of Green Party supporters and 67 per cent Left Alliance supporters share this view.
Nine per cent have a negative attitude towards membership in NATO, ten per cent of women and eight per cent of men. Thirteen per cent of 25 to 34-year-olds have a negative opinion, twelve per cent of under 25-year-olds, nine per cent of 35 to 49-year-olds and six per cent of over 50-year-olds share this view.
Twenty-nine per cent of Left Alliance supporters, seven per cent of Finns Party and SDP supporters, six per cent of Centre Party supporters and four per cent of Green Party supporters hold a negative view. There are no negative views on Finland’s membership among Coalition Party supporters. Three per cent of both women and men have no opinion.
His post schedule matches Russian/Chinese office hours too, always starting 3am in the morning Finnish time, there's no way he's stationed in Finland.
Doesn't even speak the language, always using google translate which adds a pathetic stutter to everything he say, maybe he stutters when he speak in real life, but why would he do it in text here if he wasn't a shill.
Notice how everything he posts is a duplicate, everything is posted both here on GAW and on PDW, like clockwork.
Almost everything he posts is a screenshot, or a X post to make it harder to track the original source. On most charts he cut out the information providing context, at least after the first few times he spammed the same lies if called out too much.
Now he even us alts to boost his message, I've seen handshakes appearing out of nowhere, replying to me just seconds after I reply to him, with responses having the same spelling errors and grammar mistakes he normally has when he get butt hurt over getting called out for his lies.
Definitely paid, although the question is who's paying him, his working hours suggest somewhere in east Russia or China, could be either Russia or CCP paying him, or maybe even some obscure USAID shill factory. The goal is clear tho, divide and conquer. He want Europeans and Americans to hate each other.
Nope, I am here only to warn about OP's bullshit. Please be aware of anti-NATO Russian shills.
As a Finn, I personally don't care whether we are in the NATO or not, because Finland already has a strong alliance with the rest of the Nordic countries.
This image and claim is from Panu Huuhtanen's tweet. Panu Huuhtanen is a Finnish journalist.
The picture shows the difference in results regarding the
@NATO
support of Finns, when the state leadership rushed through membership without asking the people.
The upper 'result' is produced by a commercial research institute, one of which was already revealed to be #USAID - funded.
The lower number is the result freely given by Finns using their own bank codes (identification).
It seems that Panu Huuhtanen is a "reporter" with a little blog called Reformi-studio, which has not had a new post in two years, and their YouTube channel seems to be pretty inactive, too.
I did not see any mention of Taloustutkimus Oy on USASpending.gov, nor did I find the actual survey the tweet is referring to, but that might just be because I am shit at using Twitter/X.
What I did find, however, was this little Kansalaisaloite (Citizens' initiative) petition for Finland to join NATO, that was set up a day after Russia attacked Ukraine.
This website does require an actual ID verification.
https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/9997 ("Suomen haettava NATO-jäsenyyttä perustuslaissa säädettyjen ihmisoikeusvelvoitteiden toteuttamiseksi" - "Finland must apply for NATO membership in order to fulfill its constitutional human rights obligations")
The title is complete hippie garbage, but the petition collected over 50K verified signatures from Finnish citizens in a week.
The petition was set up in the 21st of February, 2022, so just a few days before Russia attacked Ukraine. This petition stemmed from the rising tension on the Baltic Sea.
For the first few days, the amount of signatures was just a few thousand, but after the attack, the amount of verified signatures jumped to 76K in less than 2 weeks. Granted, there is probably a lot of overlap with the signatures between the two petitions, but it is clear that the attitude towards NATO changed very quickly after the attack.
It seems that NATO, having lost its original mission of standing against the former Soviet Union, gradually turned into an octopus organization desperately trying to gain as much territory and power as possible, while the US paid for it all.
It's past time when DOGE should be asking NATO, "What would you say it is you do here?"
Finns are a good bunch of Northern dwelling people. Before they were subjected to forced Immigration. They had the least homeless in the World and were often said to be the most honest Country to do business with. God bless the real Finns..
Real Finns support Finnish independence, that also means the US can fuck off. OP would give away the whole country to Russia if he had even the smallest authority in their government.
I don't know if the OP is a shill or not, but that's not the topic in this subthread.
You claimed 'Real Finns support Finnish independence'. Yet, your country reneged on the terms of its 1944 surrender, and did so in the most unproductive way possible, by joining the satanic/cabal alliance of nato. How is it then that Real Finns support independence? By joining nato?
Are 'Real Finns' for, or against nato? The op, shill or not, claims that most people in finland are against nato. You seem to indicate that the OP's position is wrong.
My statement is about OP in general. If someone lied to you 99 times, you better be skeptical, even if the last thing he said may have some truth in it.
I'm in Sweden so I can't speak for Finland, all I know is that a majority here didn't want to join NATO either, for the reason that it threatens our independence.
Those who wanted to join fell for the fear mongering plain and simple, because the support wen't up a lot before the vote took place.
Finland is however more likely to support NATO than Sweden, because A, they joined before us, and B they don't make their own fighter jets, trucks and submarines like we do, an industry which NATO threatens as we are now forced to buy American equipment, which is inferior products made from prats we produced in the first place, like Volvo and Scania engines.
Yet, your country reneged on the terms of its 1944 surrender
Assuming you're talking about Finland here, 1944 is irrelevant in toddys situation. Most people alive back then at voting age are not alive today. The situation is very different now from what it used to be.
Ok fren. I didn't know you were not finnish since you spoke about real finns, so I assumed you were a finn.
Finland was allied with the nazis in ww2. They both lost. The SU was actually quite kind to Finland. No occupation, just neutrality.
THEY RENEGED ON THAT.
You both (sweden & finland) chose to eschew neutrality and fully align/ally with the satanists.
Enjoy the results of that alignment & alliance. I don't think anything more needs to be said here.
Please note that OP is a Russian shill.
Here is a resent survey about the Finns' opinion on NATO:
Source: https://julkaisut.valtioneuvosto.fi/handle/10024/165385 (Finns` opinions on foreign and security policy, national defence and security)
PLM_2024_3.pdf
Pages 11-12.
His post schedule matches Russian/Chinese office hours too, always starting 3am in the morning Finnish time, there's no way he's stationed in Finland.
Doesn't even speak the language, always using google translate which adds a pathetic stutter to everything he say, maybe he stutters when he speak in real life, but why would he do it in text here if he wasn't a shill.
Notice how everything he posts is a duplicate, everything is posted both here on GAW and on PDW, like clockwork.
Almost everything he posts is a screenshot, or a X post to make it harder to track the original source. On most charts he cut out the information providing context, at least after the first few times he spammed the same lies if called out too much.
Now he even us alts to boost his message, I've seen handshakes appearing out of nowhere, replying to me just seconds after I reply to him, with responses having the same spelling errors and grammar mistakes he normally has when he get butt hurt over getting called out for his lies.
Yeah, he is either a very useful idiot with a shitty sleep schedule, or he gets paid to post this garbage. No way he is a native Finn.
Definitely paid, although the question is who's paying him, his working hours suggest somewhere in east Russia or China, could be either Russia or CCP paying him, or maybe even some obscure USAID shill factory. The goal is clear tho, divide and conquer. He want Europeans and Americans to hate each other.
I'm pretty sure he's American. Maybe you should stop making an ass out of yourself by assuming.
I base my assumptions on his comment history.
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/19AdSSByIy/x/c/4ZJ3lrFe7eQ
Yeah his comment history clearly shows he's American.
Go ahead and look further back, he claimed to be Finnish several times. That means he's lying.
No real Finn or American talks like that. It's obvious he's a shill.
And you look like his alt, otherwise you wouldn't show up out of nowhere defending him even after getting evidence of his shill activity.
Same exact language, and insanely butt hurt on his behalf. I never insulted you so why are you so offended?
lol imagine being your dumbass and calling someone an alt. dude if you don't shut that dumb shit up.
You do realize that, 2 hours ago is 645am Eastern Standard Time, right? Most of America's east coast is up around that time.
So you're his alt then. Everyone else understands that I'm talking about his posting patterns in general, not specifically this post.
You're one retarded mother fucker. I'm no one's alt.
You can find patterns in everything. For instance, I find that from your posting, you're 100% retarded.
You're delusional.
Seems like you're the shill. Posting USAID bullshit.
Nope, I am here only to warn about OP's bullshit. Please be aware of anti-NATO Russian shills.
As a Finn, I personally don't care whether we are in the NATO or not, because Finland already has a strong alliance with the rest of the Nordic countries.
Have you seen what forum you're on? This is anti-NATO forum.
Spreading lies doesn't support your narrative bozo.
Europoor crying because the US is going to pull out of NATO soon? You can't be MAGA and support NATO.
Bro you can't be pro-NATO and MAGA it's impossible.
Exactly. NATO is everything MAGA is against.
Taloustutkimus who carried this survey is funded by USAID.
I would love to see a credible source for this claim.
This image and claim is from Panu Huuhtanen's tweet. Panu Huuhtanen is a Finnish journalist.
The picture shows the difference in results regarding the @NATO support of Finns, when the state leadership rushed through membership without asking the people.
The upper 'result' is produced by a commercial research institute, one of which was already revealed to be #USAID - funded.
The lower number is the result freely given by Finns using their own bank codes (identification).
There are approximately the same number of participants in both, 1000-2000. https://x.com/HuuhtanenPanu/status/1891416919397314721
It seems that Panu Huuhtanen is a "reporter" with a little blog called Reformi-studio, which has not had a new post in two years, and their YouTube channel seems to be pretty inactive, too.
I did not see any mention of Taloustutkimus Oy on USASpending.gov, nor did I find the actual survey the tweet is referring to, but that might just be because I am shit at using Twitter/X.
What I did find, however, was this little Kansalaisaloite (Citizens' initiative) petition for Finland to join NATO, that was set up a day after Russia attacked Ukraine.
This website does require an actual ID verification.
https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/9997 ("Suomen haettava NATO-jäsenyyttä perustuslaissa säädettyjen ihmisoikeusvelvoitteiden toteuttamiseksi" - "Finland must apply for NATO membership in order to fulfill its constitutional human rights obligations")
The title is complete hippie garbage, but the petition collected over 50K verified signatures from Finnish citizens in a week.
And then there is this one:
https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/9866 (Suomen Nato-jäsenyydestä kansanäänestys" - "Referendum on Finland's membership of NATO")
The petition was set up in the 21st of February, 2022, so just a few days before Russia attacked Ukraine. This petition stemmed from the rising tension on the Baltic Sea.
For the first few days, the amount of signatures was just a few thousand, but after the attack, the amount of verified signatures jumped to 76K in less than 2 weeks. Granted, there is probably a lot of overlap with the signatures between the two petitions, but it is clear that the attitude towards NATO changed very quickly after the attack.
The first poll reflects the wishes of civil servants and bureaucrats who will never fight in a war but will benefit financially.
The second poll reflects the opinions of the citizens who will be “democratically” forced to fight in a war by civil servants and bureaucrats.
It seems that NATO, having lost its original mission of standing against the former Soviet Union, gradually turned into an octopus organization desperately trying to gain as much territory and power as possible, while the US paid for it all.
It's past time when DOGE should be asking NATO, "What would you say it is you do here?"
Finns are a good bunch of Northern dwelling people. Before they were subjected to forced Immigration. They had the least homeless in the World and were often said to be the most honest Country to do business with. God bless the real Finns..
Real Finns support Finnish independence, that also means the US can fuck off. OP would give away the whole country to Russia if he had even the smallest authority in their government.
You can fuck off too pussy. Considering the US subsidizes you mother fuckers constantly.
How does joining nato, a satanic/cabal alliance, and at the same time reneging on the terms of your 1944 surrender, help you with your independence?
The two Finns in this post accusing the OP of being Russian are likely the ones paid to truly spread misinformation. No MAGA is pro-NATO.
Don't ask me, because I never made that claim.
How did you not notice that OP is a shill after being here for 5 years?
I don't know if the OP is a shill or not, but that's not the topic in this subthread.
You claimed 'Real Finns support Finnish independence'. Yet, your country reneged on the terms of its 1944 surrender, and did so in the most unproductive way possible, by joining the satanic/cabal alliance of nato. How is it then that Real Finns support independence? By joining nato?
Are 'Real Finns' for, or against nato? The op, shill or not, claims that most people in finland are against nato. You seem to indicate that the OP's position is wrong.
So most Finns are not real finns? What is it?
My statement is about OP in general. If someone lied to you 99 times, you better be skeptical, even if the last thing he said may have some truth in it.
I'm in Sweden so I can't speak for Finland, all I know is that a majority here didn't want to join NATO either, for the reason that it threatens our independence.
Those who wanted to join fell for the fear mongering plain and simple, because the support wen't up a lot before the vote took place.
Finland is however more likely to support NATO than Sweden, because A, they joined before us, and B they don't make their own fighter jets, trucks and submarines like we do, an industry which NATO threatens as we are now forced to buy American equipment, which is inferior products made from prats we produced in the first place, like Volvo and Scania engines.
Assuming you're talking about Finland here, 1944 is irrelevant in toddys situation. Most people alive back then at voting age are not alive today. The situation is very different now from what it used to be.
Ok fren. I didn't know you were not finnish since you spoke about real finns, so I assumed you were a finn.
Finland was allied with the nazis in ww2. They both lost. The SU was actually quite kind to Finland. No occupation, just neutrality. THEY RENEGED ON THAT.
You both (sweden & finland) chose to eschew neutrality and fully align/ally with the satanists. Enjoy the results of that alignment & alliance. I don't think anything more needs to be said here.