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Ukraine has scorched earth; it doesn't have rare earths. Bloomberg reports that Ukrainians talked up the potential of the country's mineral resources. Even Greenland has more. (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Chukna 1 year ago by Chukna +63 / -0
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– Chukna [S] 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Actually whatever rare earth metals Ukraine may have they are actually in Russian side of border in Donbas. Trump should make a deal with Putin instead of Zelensky. Give Ukraine to Russia and USA gets access to rare earth metals.

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– ZerroDefex 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Why do you think Zelensky wasn't invited to the talks?

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– JizmJunky 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Why do you think there were talks?

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– Pbman2 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

They have lots of nickle and the richest farmland and oil and gas. And nickle in high minable concentration is rare and very valuable.

They are not poor like European countries.

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– ZerroDefex 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yep like Mexico they would be prosperous if not for all the criminals selling out the country from beneath the people's feet.

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– Chukna [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

All these natural resources are actually in Russian side of border. There is nothing in Ukraine they can give to the USA except beautiful prostitutes.

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– Pbman2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

All that farmland is west of the line.

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– JohnTitor17 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I'm glad you brought this up u/Chukna. Good find.

The "rare earth mineral" deal Trump is proposing has nothing to do with minerals.

Zelenskyy knows he cannot grant that because American industry digging into the earth would leave their tunnel networks liable to discovery.

Full stop.

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– Sadness 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Russia made sure they protected the resource-rich lands in Donbass (apart from Dnieprpetrovsk oblast - the last bastion of mining). Remember that mines are incredibly hard to attack - stuff, and troops gets hidden in the tunnels.

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– JizmJunky 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The best part is that very few people on earth can verify some of these things. It's perfectly JUST out of reach. Too easy for good guys OR bad guys to just say whatever they want.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Ukraines main value has been its Farmland. And as a Buffer State. Which is in part what led to the circumstances of its emergent National Consciousness.

It was largely ignored by most of the dominant powers of the continent and treated as a relative backwater. Valuable for Foodstuffs. And the favored Russian tactic of trading Space for Time in warfare. But not much else

Centuries of being ignored. Aside from occasionally being used as a distraction for marauding armies who plundered the farms and estates. Led to somewhat of a Cultural and Language Divergence.

Tsarist Russia and later the USSR took various steps to try and correct previous oversights and end such Sentiments. During the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries. Via the tried and tested Force Relocation and ethnic purges. Followed by Ethnic Russian resettlement. Primarily focusing on the East which was more industrialized and therefore worth more. Not to mention securing Crimea.

Though all it really succeeded in doing was building yet more Ancestral resentment. Not that Eastern Europe had Ancestral Resentment, particularly against Russia, in short supply to start with. But I digress.

But it created a ready method of fostering chaos in the region. Playing off the undercurrent of Age Old grudges and Hatreds. That no shortage of intelligence spooks of every stripe, allegiance, and color have used ever since.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I am not so sure. I' ve seen geo maps where rare earths are visible: Thorium, but also others, Usually situated in the EAST. It just so happens to be Russia's back yard, and occupied territory.

So, what is it all about?

  1. Trump: I want your rare earth for the 500 billion support
  2. Zelenski: no. but it is not 500, but 100 billion. And that was a grant.
  3. Trump: make peace or we go.
  4. EU: he Vlod, here's some money ...
  5. Germany: and we will give more....
  6. Vlod: You know, if it is about peace, I will relinquish being president.

Context: Slush funds .... + reciprocal trade. => EU: fucked. NATO contribution: >5% GDP, no? Trump: We' re gone. Goodluck with them Ruskies.

I think some people are being smoked out. And I do not give CDU a lot of time before imploding.

This election was fraudulent. It was about to keep AfD below the 25% threshold. This way, their opposition can be smothered. And they can continue their rip off policies.

Merz = März => Ides of March? Debts needed to be settled by then .....I wonder.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

https://www.f5.pl/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/metallogenic-scaled.jpg

Take a look and see if there is Uranium and Thorium? Gold Silver? And other stuff? Check out the minerals under Russian control ....

Also note the current battle lines.

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– Cyberhawk 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I’m kinda wondering what version of “rare Earth” stuff Trump is talking about. Could be anything really. It’s supposed to benefit Americans. As something we would purchase with our dollars.

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