It's a pleasure to talk with you, we may have spoken before. For the record, I don't "proselytize" but I do seek to testify to truth winsomely about my experiences that I identify with Messiah; and I trust that ordinary Jewish people are able to manage the tension between polite conversation about the Nazarene and the wounds performed in his name that still need addressing. I created c/TheJews so that things like this could be discussed and so that Jewish people could come to grips with the fullness of their own sources and traditions (something that Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and Muslims haven't done either).
The pleasure is mine as well! And I believe you in that - and I trust there is wisdom in understanding the errors in our ways to serve as a come to Jesus moment.
I’d say yes, but not quite in the 'come-to-Jesus' phrasing—Judaism doesn’t really do that kind of dramatic pivot, at least not in the Christian sense of conversion. It’s more like an adaptation, like how the Middle Ages drew on Perkei Avot to shape a new take on ethics.
That's what is needed! A shulchan aruch. The new Sanhedrin has been quiet for 20 years but has started publishing again, and every now and then a very mainstream rabbi or another says Jews need to rehabilitate Jesus as one of their own.
But on the third day he will revive us ("us" can mean the Jewish community), and that sounds sudden to me. Plus, the Rebbe was insistent on it not being (just) a process but also a continuing crisis. Maybe this Shabbat will be perfect ....
It's a pleasure to talk with you, we may have spoken before. For the record, I don't "proselytize" but I do seek to testify to truth winsomely about my experiences that I identify with Messiah; and I trust that ordinary Jewish people are able to manage the tension between polite conversation about the Nazarene and the wounds performed in his name that still need addressing. I created c/TheJews so that things like this could be discussed and so that Jewish people could come to grips with the fullness of their own sources and traditions (something that Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and Muslims haven't done either).
The pleasure is mine as well! And I believe you in that - and I trust there is wisdom in understanding the errors in our ways to serve as a come to Jesus moment.
LOL yes! Is it Jewish to speak of come-to-Jesus moments, potentially including even conversion from Christianity to current rabbinical Judaism?
I’d say yes, but not quite in the 'come-to-Jesus' phrasing—Judaism doesn’t really do that kind of dramatic pivot, at least not in the Christian sense of conversion. It’s more like an adaptation, like how the Middle Ages drew on Perkei Avot to shape a new take on ethics.
That's what is needed! A shulchan aruch. The new Sanhedrin has been quiet for 20 years but has started publishing again, and every now and then a very mainstream rabbi or another says Jews need to rehabilitate Jesus as one of their own.
But on the third day he will revive us ("us" can mean the Jewish community), and that sounds sudden to me. Plus, the Rebbe was insistent on it not being (just) a process but also a continuing crisis. Maybe this Shabbat will be perfect ....