So you're making the argument that the DS are pretending to be Jewish to make "real" Jews look bad, but you have no idea who any of these "fake Jews" are?
Are you sure you're not trying to use that "they're not genetically the same as the Israelites" argument? And you just don't want to admit it? Because I've never seen anyone argue "fake Jews" in this type of discussion that wasn't using that.
Even if you say top conspirators are just often Jewish because Jewish people are more likely to succeed, that still means top conspirators are often Jewish.
Again, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that Jewish people are historically drawn to high profile careers and that, along with confirmation bias gives people the illusion that they are.
I don't know if you're ignoring what I'm saying, or if you just don't understand.
I'm also going to point out that the threshold for "evidence" of Jewish people being "conspirators" is much lower than that for anyone else. Just being insanely wealthy is "evidence" enough for people to accuse Jewish people of nefarious deeds, while ignoring all sorts of actual, real evidence of misdeeds from wealthy non-Jewish people.
I think neither of us is going to agree. I'm just trying to acknowledge patterns of religious identification. I do understand what you are saying about high profile careers. It doesn't actually negate the pattern though. I'm talking about correlation, you are talking about causation.
Here, let me see if I can give you another comparison to get my point across.
Pedophilia is commonly brought to attention to the public when religious leaders (heavily leaning towards white Catholic priests) are outed in some horrible thing they've done.
Would you say that it's fair to say that white Catholics, or religious leaders in general, make up a disproportionate number of the pedophiles in the world?
I don't know anything about pedophile numbers and I'd have to look at those before I made any assertions about populations. But while we are on the topic, obviously there is for SURE something weird going on with the Catholic priests engaging in Pedophilia. Something is deeply not right there (and the Pope, what a scene, man). I think we should be able to acknowledge that and it should be a data point as we try to figure out what's going on. Of course, people have conspiracies about the Rothschilds and the Catholic Church so that sort of gets us back to where we started.
But yeah, I'm just trying to point out a correlation. You think pointing out the correlation at all is suspect. I think THAT's confirmation bias to not even look at numbers because they are discounted out of hand due to ideology. We should be able to look at numbers. I think it's a valid metric that should be considered as we try to figure out what's going on with the DS.
So you're sure that something weird is going on with Catholics and pedophilia, but you'd have to look into the matter more to make assertions about the general population?
Do you not realize that you just contradicted yourself?
If all things were equal, just looking at the numbers wouldn't be an issue. But all things aren't equal.
Like I said before, just being Jewish and wealthy is enough "evidence" for someone to be lumped in with the DS, but being, say Christian and wealthy, is not.
So you're making the argument that the DS are pretending to be Jewish to make "real" Jews look bad, but you have no idea who any of these "fake Jews" are?
Are you sure you're not trying to use that "they're not genetically the same as the Israelites" argument? And you just don't want to admit it? Because I've never seen anyone argue "fake Jews" in this type of discussion that wasn't using that.
Again, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that Jewish people are historically drawn to high profile careers and that, along with confirmation bias gives people the illusion that they are.
I don't know if you're ignoring what I'm saying, or if you just don't understand.
I'm also going to point out that the threshold for "evidence" of Jewish people being "conspirators" is much lower than that for anyone else. Just being insanely wealthy is "evidence" enough for people to accuse Jewish people of nefarious deeds, while ignoring all sorts of actual, real evidence of misdeeds from wealthy non-Jewish people.
I think neither of us is going to agree. I'm just trying to acknowledge patterns of religious identification. I do understand what you are saying about high profile careers. It doesn't actually negate the pattern though. I'm talking about correlation, you are talking about causation.
Well, no, I'm not going to agree with you.
It's what you're focusing on for correlation that matters.
Do you focus on billionaires being among those conspirators? No? Why not?
Here, let me see if I can give you another comparison to get my point across.
Pedophilia is commonly brought to attention to the public when religious leaders (heavily leaning towards white Catholic priests) are outed in some horrible thing they've done.
Would you say that it's fair to say that white Catholics, or religious leaders in general, make up a disproportionate number of the pedophiles in the world?
I don't know anything about pedophile numbers and I'd have to look at those before I made any assertions about populations. But while we are on the topic, obviously there is for SURE something weird going on with the Catholic priests engaging in Pedophilia. Something is deeply not right there (and the Pope, what a scene, man). I think we should be able to acknowledge that and it should be a data point as we try to figure out what's going on. Of course, people have conspiracies about the Rothschilds and the Catholic Church so that sort of gets us back to where we started.
But yeah, I'm just trying to point out a correlation. You think pointing out the correlation at all is suspect. I think THAT's confirmation bias to not even look at numbers because they are discounted out of hand due to ideology. We should be able to look at numbers. I think it's a valid metric that should be considered as we try to figure out what's going on with the DS.
So you're sure that something weird is going on with Catholics and pedophilia, but you'd have to look into the matter more to make assertions about the general population?
Do you not realize that you just contradicted yourself?
If all things were equal, just looking at the numbers wouldn't be an issue. But all things aren't equal.
Like I said before, just being Jewish and wealthy is enough "evidence" for someone to be lumped in with the DS, but being, say Christian and wealthy, is not.