F-47 prototype had been secretly flying for the past half-decade
That’s an interesting admission. One can only presume it’s been running some form of mission then to put it through its paces outside conventional operations or tests. To keep its existence on the DL. As there’s no shortage of people, both elected officials and otherwise, who’d not hesitate to sell those secrets the minute they knew of the projects existence.
uncrewed collaborative combat aircraft (CCA)
So it’ll have the ability to launch parasite aircraft. Which was a concept experimented with on and off again for the better part of a century by various nations. The concept was mostly abandoned following the advances in Missile Tech.
Trump suggested on March 21 that the number of drones operating in conjunction with the F-47 pilot was scalable, meaning that the pilot could be accompanied by as few or as many unmanned craft as was necessary for a specific mission set.
This would be fascinating functionality especially if we got the specs of the Drones it’d be paired with. And whether it’s a suicide drone or there’s the ability to launch and recover them.
A couple of these launching a squadrons worth of Sucide Drones could devastate an Airbase. Even if Point-Defense and AA batteries were active. Only so much those can do if you can drop directly on top of them. Or if they got the drop on a formation of older more conventional aircraft.
A Formation of Current model Strategic Bombers for example would be sitting ducks. Though it may have the knock on effect of reviving the ‘Flying Fortress’ concept for future generations of Bombers. And more traditional Anti-Air concepts for ground bases.
We’ve already seen scenes reminiscent of WW2 movies coming out of Russia and Ukraine. Where Units are using adhoc cobbled together Anti-Aircraft guns reminiscent of pieces from the World Wars and early Cold War to deal with Drone raids.
Some misconceptions. The five years would have been in flight test and maybe system integration tests. Possibly also engineering revisions. Less complex aircraft (e.g., Boeing T-7 trainer) typically take about 2 years of flight testing.
It will not launch parasite aircraft. Unmanned aerial combat vehicles ("wingmen") are already being developed (e.g., Boeing MQ-28 "Ghost Bat"). They would be launched separately and flown in formation with the F-47.
Contemporary bombers do not fly "in formation." That ended with World War II.
Boeing is riddled with Chinese spys. I can't imagine them not walking away with everything. The only reason they are building the DONG stratto fighter is because they stole all our tech advances already. Reminder, the fing China man who was into our fission reactor program has decided to go home to China land. All those years of knowledge are going with him. Get the foreign students and researchers OUT OF AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS. they are not our friends just our dam enemies.
At great speeds mach, the computers have fly by wire systems. To control the surfaces of an aircraft, say hypersonic, mach 15+ you need a very fast computing system to keep the aircraft from disintagting. It's constantly adjusting the control surfaces to maintain flight and efficiency. The threat assessment computer is continuously scanning the horizon for foes. Once detected an enemy aircraft is neutralized immediately. The pilot never even sees the enemy but is informed xx enemy aircraft detected and eliminated. With drone seed carriers the munitions from them will be slaved. The master control can pick and choose what munitions to use and when.
Stealth is rendered useless if you do not dominate space. If the Chinese or Russians have satellite capabilities to "see" these aircraft stealth to radar is worthless.
Not useless at all. If a spaceborne asset has the resolution to "see" such a thing as an airplane, well enough to identify it, its field of view will be very limited. Low-altitude satellites will not linger over a region. High-altitude satellites will have a tremendous problem getting enough pixels to cover the region of interest. And no satellite can see beneath cloud cover, which is pervasive.
There is also the fact that stealth is also (if not mainly) for the purpose of preventing attacking missiles or interceptors from locking on to them. Who cares if somebody can see you, if they can't take a shot at you?
What other spectrum do you want? Infrared results in less resolution (or larger apertures and optics) and is totally blocked by water vapor (clouds). Ultraviolet is a non-starter because it is heavily scattered by the atmosphere. Radar imagery involves lots of power and large antennas to get resolution and coverage. We don't have it. And you are still faced with the problems of transient coverage or extremely high altitudes. I did this for a living. I even invented a technique (passive microwave sensing) that is not on the table, but no interest. (My patent office people got all jumpy that my disclosure discussion stated outright that it was a method for detecting stealthy aircraft.)
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That’s an interesting admission. One can only presume it’s been running some form of mission then to put it through its paces outside conventional operations or tests. To keep its existence on the DL. As there’s no shortage of people, both elected officials and otherwise, who’d not hesitate to sell those secrets the minute they knew of the projects existence.
So it’ll have the ability to launch parasite aircraft. Which was a concept experimented with on and off again for the better part of a century by various nations. The concept was mostly abandoned following the advances in Missile Tech.
This would be fascinating functionality especially if we got the specs of the Drones it’d be paired with. And whether it’s a suicide drone or there’s the ability to launch and recover them.
A couple of these launching a squadrons worth of Sucide Drones could devastate an Airbase. Even if Point-Defense and AA batteries were active. Only so much those can do if you can drop directly on top of them. Or if they got the drop on a formation of older more conventional aircraft.
A Formation of Current model Strategic Bombers for example would be sitting ducks. Though it may have the knock on effect of reviving the ‘Flying Fortress’ concept for future generations of Bombers. And more traditional Anti-Air concepts for ground bases.
We’ve already seen scenes reminiscent of WW2 movies coming out of Russia and Ukraine. Where Units are using adhoc cobbled together Anti-Aircraft guns reminiscent of pieces from the World Wars and early Cold War to deal with Drone raids.
Some misconceptions. The five years would have been in flight test and maybe system integration tests. Possibly also engineering revisions. Less complex aircraft (e.g., Boeing T-7 trainer) typically take about 2 years of flight testing.
It will not launch parasite aircraft. Unmanned aerial combat vehicles ("wingmen") are already being developed (e.g., Boeing MQ-28 "Ghost Bat"). They would be launched separately and flown in formation with the F-47.
Contemporary bombers do not fly "in formation." That ended with World War II.
"To keep its existence on the DL ( F-47 prototype had been secretly flying for the past half-decade)
...this in itself is amazing...
...lots of loose lips flapping in the Pentagon...
...wonderful addendum, nicely stated and framed...
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Boeing is riddled with Chinese spys. I can't imagine them not walking away with everything. The only reason they are building the DONG stratto fighter is because they stole all our tech advances already. Reminder, the fing China man who was into our fission reactor program has decided to go home to China land. All those years of knowledge are going with him. Get the foreign students and researchers OUT OF AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS. they are not our friends just our dam enemies.
Ward Carroll has a bit more info on the F-47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_EXmVUJCM
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At great speeds mach, the computers have fly by wire systems. To control the surfaces of an aircraft, say hypersonic, mach 15+ you need a very fast computing system to keep the aircraft from disintagting. It's constantly adjusting the control surfaces to maintain flight and efficiency. The threat assessment computer is continuously scanning the horizon for foes. Once detected an enemy aircraft is neutralized immediately. The pilot never even sees the enemy but is informed xx enemy aircraft detected and eliminated. With drone seed carriers the munitions from them will be slaved. The master control can pick and choose what munitions to use and when.
Stealth is rendered useless if you do not dominate space. If the Chinese or Russians have satellite capabilities to "see" these aircraft stealth to radar is worthless.
Not useless at all. If a spaceborne asset has the resolution to "see" such a thing as an airplane, well enough to identify it, its field of view will be very limited. Low-altitude satellites will not linger over a region. High-altitude satellites will have a tremendous problem getting enough pixels to cover the region of interest. And no satellite can see beneath cloud cover, which is pervasive.
There is also the fact that stealth is also (if not mainly) for the purpose of preventing attacking missiles or interceptors from locking on to them. Who cares if somebody can see you, if they can't take a shot at you?
Only if the visual spectrum is used.
What other spectrum do you want? Infrared results in less resolution (or larger apertures and optics) and is totally blocked by water vapor (clouds). Ultraviolet is a non-starter because it is heavily scattered by the atmosphere. Radar imagery involves lots of power and large antennas to get resolution and coverage. We don't have it. And you are still faced with the problems of transient coverage or extremely high altitudes. I did this for a living. I even invented a technique (passive microwave sensing) that is not on the table, but no interest. (My patent office people got all jumpy that my disclosure discussion stated outright that it was a method for detecting stealthy aircraft.)
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