You would make a great policeman. The gun is your only solution. You don't argue with the fact that a punch in the face would get her attention, if not stop her cold. I already made the point that the partition kept it quiet on the cop's side and noisy on her side. She couldn't hear anything he said. Nothing he said was caught on audio. But for you, death to vandals! Nah, you are out there. You are looking for absolutely any argument to rationalize shooting an unarmed person who is not a personal threat, and you make ridiculous arguments against getting the people's attention with a shot not directed at anyone. Of course, there's "no need" to fire a warning shot if loss of life makes no difference to you. But it sounds more like your principle is "For God's sake, do NOT fire a warning shot. You MUST fire a lethal shot."
I am a long-time defender and proponent of the right to keep and bear arms for personal and property defense, but you are making this very ugly. Like you are just waiting for an excuse to pull a trigger.
I’m not arguing. She put herself in this situation. Don’t commit crimes and comply. She had no reason to be crawling through a broken window let alone be in the capitol
Yeah, you're arguing. What is it called when you take a position and then propose justifications for that position? At least be honest with yourself. All throughout the Capitol building, there was commotion and no one else was shot. A long time ago, it was ruled that mere trespass did not warrant killing anyone. Shooting is supposed to be a last resort. You are trying to argue that it was the only resort. And "being in a situation" is not a death sentence. I guess the cop was too limp-wristed to punch her in the face, but not so limp-wristed he couldn't shoot a Glock properly. And that would be you?
While individuals have the right to defend themselves and their property, the use of deadly force is only justified in specific circumstances, such as when there is an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
You don’t think the mob and her smashing windows is a threat? Were they smashing those windows for the fun of it?
Smashing windows is not a threat of death or serious bodily harm, particularly if they don't see you. It is vandalism, not assault. You really want to shoot people...
You would make a great policeman. The gun is your only solution. You don't argue with the fact that a punch in the face would get her attention, if not stop her cold. I already made the point that the partition kept it quiet on the cop's side and noisy on her side. She couldn't hear anything he said. Nothing he said was caught on audio. But for you, death to vandals! Nah, you are out there. You are looking for absolutely any argument to rationalize shooting an unarmed person who is not a personal threat, and you make ridiculous arguments against getting the people's attention with a shot not directed at anyone. Of course, there's "no need" to fire a warning shot if loss of life makes no difference to you. But it sounds more like your principle is "For God's sake, do NOT fire a warning shot. You MUST fire a lethal shot."
I am a long-time defender and proponent of the right to keep and bear arms for personal and property defense, but you are making this very ugly. Like you are just waiting for an excuse to pull a trigger.
I’m not arguing. She put herself in this situation. Don’t commit crimes and comply. She had no reason to be crawling through a broken window let alone be in the capitol
Yeah, you're arguing. What is it called when you take a position and then propose justifications for that position? At least be honest with yourself. All throughout the Capitol building, there was commotion and no one else was shot. A long time ago, it was ruled that mere trespass did not warrant killing anyone. Shooting is supposed to be a last resort. You are trying to argue that it was the only resort. And "being in a situation" is not a death sentence. I guess the cop was too limp-wristed to punch her in the face, but not so limp-wristed he couldn't shoot a Glock properly. And that would be you?
While individuals have the right to defend themselves and their property, the use of deadly force is only justified in specific circumstances, such as when there is an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
You don’t think the mob and her smashing windows is a threat? Were they smashing those windows for the fun of it?
Smashing windows is not a threat of death or serious bodily harm, particularly if they don't see you. It is vandalism, not assault. You really want to shoot people...
https://youtu.be/SjscskqLx0U?si=OWGcCGa5VqZWvhGY
This looks like a threat to me! If she only complied when he had his gun out.
It was evident she didn't even see him. He was hiding himself from view to the side.