"The Nazis actually" escaped to the US, Britain, Saudi Arabia, and Russia, or stayed in Germany for the most part, becoming the most well paid and most prolific intelligence agency operatives (or their leaders), scientists (also their leaders), politicians (ditto), and teachers (blah, blah, blah) on the planet. A few went to various South American countries, but only a few, and those still were intelligence operatives of one variety or another.
The Nazis DID have a base on Antarctica during WWII. There were probably plenty who lived there afterwards as well. The current bases are probably still full of Nazis, at least from the policies and institutions they created, even if most workers don't realize who they work for.
colonized the Moon
The Moon landing, via the US, was run, on every level, by those Nazi scientists. Did those Nazis who directed US astronauts to land on the Moon create a colony? Quite possibly. There is a WHOLE LOT of fuckery going on there, and more than enough hidden money and black ops that could have created such a thing. I personally think the Nazis, through the US and possibly the USSR, did colonize the moon.
and Mars
This one I'm not so sure about. However, there is a lot of information that makes me think it is possible. If it did happen, it happened in the same way that everything else has happened since the Nazis did their thing, through the US and USSR acting together (as a form of controlled opposition, both ultimately controlled by Rockefeller et al).
The Nazis...
...are not who you think they are.
The Nazis were controlled, on every level, by Rothschild and Rockefeller (or whoever controls them) from before the Nazis became "the Nazis." These people ran WWI. One of the primary goals of that endeavor was to destabilize the German (Prussian) economy primarily through "reparations" (who was completely controlled by Rockefeller and Rothschild). After completely destroying their economy, to the point that it was impossible for it to recover, they then directed and funded the political party called "the Nazis" and gave them the path to "economic security." This was done, in the end, by the creation of the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the bank that legally rules the world. This bank was created by Rockefeller and Rothschild specifically to stabilize the German economy through the Nazi party.
The primary goal of all these efforts was, I think, to ensure that no country in the world could ever use an economy except theirs. What they wanted to do with that economy was give themselves direct, legal operations for Everything; like create the state of Israel (or "re"create it), create a formal World Government under their control (they already had an informal one), and to create the illusion of the Cold War, which allowed them to create The Matrix.
One of those outcomes was also one of the most important, and that was to create the path to the moon. Do you really think they didn't do anything with the moon after 1973? In my opinion, they almost certainly have bases on the moon. Those bases were created by the Nazis, except the Nazis weren't really the Nazis, but a proxy entity. The same entity that had already fully controlled the governments of the US, USSR, and Britain. Not to mention all the other countries on the planet, but these are the most important in this context.
There is a fair amount of evidence that suggests that at least some of the footage was faked, but not all of it. In addition, the actual moon landing, the one in 1969, almost certainly happened.
There is all sorts of fuckery there, but the actual event of sending astronauts to the moon almost certainly happened in 1969 as advertised. What they saw, however, probably wasn't what they said they saw.
In fairness, I forgot to add a /s (sarcasm) tag, so my sincere apologies.
That being said, would it surprise me if NASA secretly sent astronauts to the moon, succeeding after numerous failures, prior to '69, and then legit sent more in 1969 and told the world it was the first time?
Not at all.
It'd be like the supposed red mercury. "we got to the moon, it's easy!" we tell the world, not mentioning numerous tragedies it took us to get there. Meanwhile, the USSR be like "the Americans did it on their first attempt, what's our problem?". Watch em waste resources on something that they think we did easily, when in fact it was very hard for us.
We do it with stuff all the time. We don't say, "we have a new bomber" when we rent don't. Instead, we say, "we have no new bomber" while we test fly the F117 fire a decade prior to reveal.
So do I think the moon really went down that way? NO. Would I be shocked if I learned it did? NO.
not a chance that the apollo missions were legit. first time i disaggree with slyver. slyver, give this a read "waggiing the moon doggie" https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/
I read the essay you linked. It is the only way I could possibly respond in a meaningful way. It didn't have hardly any actual external evidence, which is not to my liking at all. The only thing I saw that looked interesting has been scrubbed from the internet. Specifically:
In truth, the entire space program has largely been, from its inception, little more than an elaborate cover for the research, development and deployment of space-based weaponry and surveillance systems. The media never talk about such things, of course, but government documents make clear that the goals being pursued through space research are largely military in nature.
That it was scrubbed is unfortunate, but it is what it is.
The entire thing was a mash of the author's assessment of the facts using insufficient context and opinion laden rhetoric designed to make it clear that anyone who disagrees is wrong. Now, I'm OK with that type of writing. I do that myself sometimes (in posts). But I don't do that if I am trying to make a convincing argument to a skeptic. I don't do it when it really matters.
I have so many issues with that essay that I don't even know where to begin. I can't possibly address them all. Instead, I will be brief, and say what I think happened with regards to the moon landing. All of the things I say are also congruent with the evidence the writer presents. I am not arguing against his stated facts (though I am arguing some of his opinions pretending to be facts). My assessment comes from both what was addressed and additional evidence that was not addressed; additional context.
I think that the moon landing happened in 1969. I think that both the US and USSR were both working on that program. But they weren't working in competition, rather they were working in conjunction. Or perhaps a better way of saying it is, they were both in competition, but they were both "competing" under the direction of a single director. This was exactly what Musk did for his Starship program. He had a group working in Florida and in Texas. They were "competing," because competition is by far the quickest way to advance technology, especially if they are sharing information (which they were, both by Musk and the case of the US/USSR duo)..
This type of Controlled Competition is obvious everywhere. The more "important" the competition, the more quickly technology advances. Look at WWII. Look at how quickly technology advanced. Now when you understand that WWII was directed by the all the companies on both sides, you can appreciate why the tech advanced as it did. The beneficiary (not to mention the funding) of those advancements was Rockefeller (et al). That was the same entity that directed the entirety of WWII. It was the same entity that paid the salaries of all the people in the uranium programs for example (in the USSR, US, and Germany), the rocketry programs (both before, during and after WWII), the Apollo programs specifically, etc., etc. Every single one of those programs was controlled directly by Rockefeller (and/or Rothschild in the case of Britain, France, etc.). All of the media companies that controlled all the information about all those programs, both during and/or after, were also controlled by Rockefeller (et al).
The problem with all the beliefs about all major events of the past 150ish years is that all of those events were not organic. On the contrary, they were all provably controlled from the shadows (the same Shadow). The front man of all those shadows is Rockefeller (or usually the Rockefeller Foundation or one it's sister companies, or a government program created by Nelson or David Rockefeller).
So here is my assessment. As I said, the moon landing (at least some of them) happened exactly when they said they did. There are numerous gov docs that support that evidence. What they saw was not what they reported to the public (also supported by that same source). I think a great deal of the footage was faked (though possibly not all). It is the fake footage (that is relatively easy to find for any investigator) that causes so much confusion. I think that fake footage was intentional. How better to hide what actually happened then to make the conspiracy theorists believe something else? You give them something, real evidence of fuckery, but direct them in the wrong direction. That happens ALL THE TIME; a form of a Limited Hangout.
I think the moon is not what we think it is. I think it is more likely that we actually live in a REALLY BIG Truman Show.
There was never a German base in Antarctica. There was an expedition that lasted 1938-1939 conducted from the MS Schwabenland converted freighter. It returned to Germany, war broke out, and that was the last "Nazi" foot on Antarctica.
As for Moon colonization, dream on. There were no extra Moon rockets and no subsequent Moon shots. These things were impossible to conceal. Any Moon bases would be conspicuous to any astronomer. All you need to do is look.
No human has been to Mars. That expedition would also be impossible to conceal.
And I see you are doing the usual collectivist slander by calling all Germans "Nazis," even if they had no voluntary involvement in Party activities.
Any Moon bases would be conspicuous to any astronomer
Unless they were built on the dark side of the moon
No human has been to Mars. That expedition would also be impossible to conceal
That we know of. I’m sure our government would’ve been happy to disclose to the public that not only did the Nazis survive the war, and had advanced technology enough to defy earths gravity at will with advanced aircraft, but had used them to colonize the moon on its dark side, and later Mars to escape.
I repeat, there was never a German base in Antarctica. There are other bases by other countries in the location where they were supposed to be.
And there were no Nazi UFOs. Absolutely no evidence.
No Moon bases because (1) there were no other Moon shots, and (2) they would be all observed. In case you don't know it, the far side of the Moon has been surveyed and mapped by probes. i.e., no evidence.
No human has been to Mars. No Mars shots. No evidence. And Mars is also subject to extensive photographic surveys.
Your whole collection of ideas are imaginary. Actually, delusionary. You seem to think that anything is possible if there is no evidence for it---it's all covered up. It prevents you from realizing that all the Nazis succumbed to a genetic disease caused by traveling in UFOs, leaving them to rot while they drifted in space, failing to land on either the Moon or Mars. Very sad end.
Why do you think the Russian government would go along with such a covert program, allowing Nazis free reign over the known universe, keeping their lip zipped? That is even more unlikely than things that are factually impossible.
I only used the example I gave in the title as a more wild example of conspiracies that might become true thanks to how so many former conspiracies have been proven to be right. But it’s your complete denial of things that have documented evidence (Antarctic base, ufo blueprints) that you deny even exist that a simple google search and an hour of personal research could change your mind on that had me responding.
You know, for someone who takes part on a board that regularly gets derided by others for not having any evidence, or dismissed as a crazed conspiracy theory, and believe that the government is hiding things from us, you sure are convinced that the government with certainty wouldn’t hide anything of this nature from the general population, or for that matter, the global deep state cabal wouldn’t hide things that fall outside of their narrative.
How narrow minded and naive of you. I’d almost call you a hypocrite. But what I can say is don’t throw stones from a glass house.
"The Nazis actually" escaped to the US, Britain, Saudi Arabia, and Russia, or stayed in Germany for the most part, becoming the most well paid and most prolific intelligence agency operatives (or their leaders), scientists (also their leaders), politicians (ditto), and teachers (blah, blah, blah) on the planet. A few went to various South American countries, but only a few, and those still were intelligence operatives of one variety or another.
The Nazis DID have a base on Antarctica during WWII. There were probably plenty who lived there afterwards as well. The current bases are probably still full of Nazis, at least from the policies and institutions they created, even if most workers don't realize who they work for.
The Moon landing, via the US, was run, on every level, by those Nazi scientists. Did those Nazis who directed US astronauts to land on the Moon create a colony? Quite possibly. There is a WHOLE LOT of fuckery going on there, and more than enough hidden money and black ops that could have created such a thing. I personally think the Nazis, through the US and possibly the USSR, did colonize the moon.
This one I'm not so sure about. However, there is a lot of information that makes me think it is possible. If it did happen, it happened in the same way that everything else has happened since the Nazis did their thing, through the US and USSR acting together (as a form of controlled opposition, both ultimately controlled by Rockefeller et al).
The Nazis...
...are not who you think they are.
The Nazis were controlled, on every level, by Rothschild and Rockefeller (or whoever controls them) from before the Nazis became "the Nazis." These people ran WWI. One of the primary goals of that endeavor was to destabilize the German (Prussian) economy primarily through "reparations" (who was completely controlled by Rockefeller and Rothschild). After completely destroying their economy, to the point that it was impossible for it to recover, they then directed and funded the political party called "the Nazis" and gave them the path to "economic security." This was done, in the end, by the creation of the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the bank that legally rules the world. This bank was created by Rockefeller and Rothschild specifically to stabilize the German economy through the Nazi party.
The primary goal of all these efforts was, I think, to ensure that no country in the world could ever use an economy except theirs. What they wanted to do with that economy was give themselves direct, legal operations for Everything; like create the state of Israel (or "re"create it), create a formal World Government under their control (they already had an informal one), and to create the illusion of the Cold War, which allowed them to create The Matrix.
One of those outcomes was also one of the most important, and that was to create the path to the moon. Do you really think they didn't do anything with the moon after 1973? In my opinion, they almost certainly have bases on the moon. Those bases were created by the Nazis, except the Nazis weren't really the Nazis, but a proxy entity. The same entity that had already fully controlled the governments of the US, USSR, and Britain. Not to mention all the other countries on the planet, but these are the most important in this context.
'First' Moon landing was faked - because we were already there!
The footage really IS from the moon, but the 'landing' was recreated to make it seem like we had just arrived. 😁
Do you have any evidence to support that?
There is a fair amount of evidence that suggests that at least some of the footage was faked, but not all of it. In addition, the actual moon landing, the one in 1969, almost certainly happened.
There is all sorts of fuckery there, but the actual event of sending astronauts to the moon almost certainly happened in 1969 as advertised. What they saw, however, probably wasn't what they said they saw.
In fairness, I forgot to add a /s (sarcasm) tag, so my sincere apologies.
That being said, would it surprise me if NASA secretly sent astronauts to the moon, succeeding after numerous failures, prior to '69, and then legit sent more in 1969 and told the world it was the first time?
Not at all.
It'd be like the supposed red mercury. "we got to the moon, it's easy!" we tell the world, not mentioning numerous tragedies it took us to get there. Meanwhile, the USSR be like "the Americans did it on their first attempt, what's our problem?". Watch em waste resources on something that they think we did easily, when in fact it was very hard for us.
We do it with stuff all the time. We don't say, "we have a new bomber" when we rent don't. Instead, we say, "we have no new bomber" while we test fly the F117 fire a decade prior to reveal.
So do I think the moon really went down that way? NO. Would I be shocked if I learned it did? NO.
Hahaha.
not a chance that the apollo missions were legit. first time i disaggree with slyver. slyver, give this a read "waggiing the moon doggie" https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/
I read the essay you linked. It is the only way I could possibly respond in a meaningful way. It didn't have hardly any actual external evidence, which is not to my liking at all. The only thing I saw that looked interesting has been scrubbed from the internet. Specifically:
That it was scrubbed is unfortunate, but it is what it is.
The entire thing was a mash of the author's assessment of the facts using insufficient context and opinion laden rhetoric designed to make it clear that anyone who disagrees is wrong. Now, I'm OK with that type of writing. I do that myself sometimes (in posts). But I don't do that if I am trying to make a convincing argument to a skeptic. I don't do it when it really matters.
I have so many issues with that essay that I don't even know where to begin. I can't possibly address them all. Instead, I will be brief, and say what I think happened with regards to the moon landing. All of the things I say are also congruent with the evidence the writer presents. I am not arguing against his stated facts (though I am arguing some of his opinions pretending to be facts). My assessment comes from both what was addressed and additional evidence that was not addressed; additional context.
I think that the moon landing happened in 1969. I think that both the US and USSR were both working on that program. But they weren't working in competition, rather they were working in conjunction. Or perhaps a better way of saying it is, they were both in competition, but they were both "competing" under the direction of a single director. This was exactly what Musk did for his Starship program. He had a group working in Florida and in Texas. They were "competing," because competition is by far the quickest way to advance technology, especially if they are sharing information (which they were, both by Musk and the case of the US/USSR duo)..
This type of Controlled Competition is obvious everywhere. The more "important" the competition, the more quickly technology advances. Look at WWII. Look at how quickly technology advanced. Now when you understand that WWII was directed by the all the companies on both sides, you can appreciate why the tech advanced as it did. The beneficiary (not to mention the funding) of those advancements was Rockefeller (et al). That was the same entity that directed the entirety of WWII. It was the same entity that paid the salaries of all the people in the uranium programs for example (in the USSR, US, and Germany), the rocketry programs (both before, during and after WWII), the Apollo programs specifically, etc., etc. Every single one of those programs was controlled directly by Rockefeller (and/or Rothschild in the case of Britain, France, etc.). All of the media companies that controlled all the information about all those programs, both during and/or after, were also controlled by Rockefeller (et al).
The problem with all the beliefs about all major events of the past 150ish years is that all of those events were not organic. On the contrary, they were all provably controlled from the shadows (the same Shadow). The front man of all those shadows is Rockefeller (or usually the Rockefeller Foundation or one it's sister companies, or a government program created by Nelson or David Rockefeller).
So here is my assessment. As I said, the moon landing (at least some of them) happened exactly when they said they did. There are numerous gov docs that support that evidence. What they saw was not what they reported to the public (also supported by that same source). I think a great deal of the footage was faked (though possibly not all). It is the fake footage (that is relatively easy to find for any investigator) that causes so much confusion. I think that fake footage was intentional. How better to hide what actually happened then to make the conspiracy theorists believe something else? You give them something, real evidence of fuckery, but direct them in the wrong direction. That happens ALL THE TIME; a form of a Limited Hangout.
I think the moon is not what we think it is. I think it is more likely that we actually live in a REALLY BIG Truman Show.
Can't wait until tourism is established to visit the Lunar Operations Center.
There was never a German base in Antarctica. There was an expedition that lasted 1938-1939 conducted from the MS Schwabenland converted freighter. It returned to Germany, war broke out, and that was the last "Nazi" foot on Antarctica.
As for Moon colonization, dream on. There were no extra Moon rockets and no subsequent Moon shots. These things were impossible to conceal. Any Moon bases would be conspicuous to any astronomer. All you need to do is look.
No human has been to Mars. That expedition would also be impossible to conceal.
And I see you are doing the usual collectivist slander by calling all Germans "Nazis," even if they had no voluntary involvement in Party activities.
“Officially”
Nazi antigravity UFOs
Unless they were built on the dark side of the moon
That we know of. I’m sure our government would’ve been happy to disclose to the public that not only did the Nazis survive the war, and had advanced technology enough to defy earths gravity at will with advanced aircraft, but had used them to colonize the moon on its dark side, and later Mars to escape.
I repeat, there was never a German base in Antarctica. There are other bases by other countries in the location where they were supposed to be.
And there were no Nazi UFOs. Absolutely no evidence.
No Moon bases because (1) there were no other Moon shots, and (2) they would be all observed. In case you don't know it, the far side of the Moon has been surveyed and mapped by probes. i.e., no evidence.
No human has been to Mars. No Mars shots. No evidence. And Mars is also subject to extensive photographic surveys.
Your whole collection of ideas are imaginary. Actually, delusionary. You seem to think that anything is possible if there is no evidence for it---it's all covered up. It prevents you from realizing that all the Nazis succumbed to a genetic disease caused by traveling in UFOs, leaving them to rot while they drifted in space, failing to land on either the Moon or Mars. Very sad end.
Why do you think the Russian government would go along with such a covert program, allowing Nazis free reign over the known universe, keeping their lip zipped? That is even more unlikely than things that are factually impossible.
I only used the example I gave in the title as a more wild example of conspiracies that might become true thanks to how so many former conspiracies have been proven to be right. But it’s your complete denial of things that have documented evidence (Antarctic base, ufo blueprints) that you deny even exist that a simple google search and an hour of personal research could change your mind on that had me responding.
You know, for someone who takes part on a board that regularly gets derided by others for not having any evidence, or dismissed as a crazed conspiracy theory, and believe that the government is hiding things from us, you sure are convinced that the government with certainty wouldn’t hide anything of this nature from the general population, or for that matter, the global deep state cabal wouldn’t hide things that fall outside of their narrative.
How narrow minded and naive of you. I’d almost call you a hypocrite. But what I can say is don’t throw stones from a glass house.
https://youtu.be/hIjxbV7pDlc?si=8FDquBkZLq6Wg_Ej