Another definition that links back to communism. So then this just proves the point that Socialism is just a word, and that we should just call it Communism.
@5:48 -- "... and Obama was a pretty big patriot..."
Yeah, no. And neither was his tranny spouse ("All this for a flag!")
This dude consumes lots of FNM and believes it. Stopped listening after that. But, yes, his point of socialism having many conflicting perceived attributes is fairly well-reasoned (just as is his analogy to defining what a house is). Can't comment on the rest of the video as I didn't watch it all.
I didn't agree with that part as well. Obama was not a patriot to you Americans, he was a sellout and in it for himself/his puppet masters
However, even if you don;t agree on that point I urge you to at least finish the rest of the video. This board I thought was all about listening to differentiating opinions and talking about them.
Significant differences challenge the idea that this was “perfected communism.” The reductions were not driven by a secular ideology of class struggle or economic equality, as modern communism is, but by a religious mission to convert and “civilize” the Guaraní within a colonial context. The Jesuits maintained strict hierarchical control, and the system depended on their authority rather than egalitarian self-governance. Moreover, the reductions were not a prototype for Marxist communism—Karl Marx’s ideas emerged much later, in the 19th century, influenced by European industrial conditions and philosophical traditions, not Jesuit experiments in South America.
The claim may also originate from fringe theories suggesting Jesuits directly inspired modern communism, sometimes tied to conspiracy narratives about their influence on figures like Marx. No credible historical evidence supports this; Marx’s intellectual roots are well-documented in German philosophy, British economics, and French socialism, not Jesuit writings from Paraguay.
Historically, the reductions achieved remarkable economic success and protected the Guaraní from enslavement by Spanish and Portuguese colonists, peaking with a population of over 140,000 across 30 missions by 1732. Yet, they ended abruptly in 1767 when the Jesuits were expelled from Spanish territories, and the communities largely dissolved, suggesting the system’s reliance on Jesuit oversight rather than an inherent, replicable model.
In short, while the Jesuit reductions shared some features with communal living—collective labor, shared resources—they were a unique product of their religious and colonial context, not a perfected form of communism. The assertion oversimplifies both the reductions and communism, conflating a 17th-century missionary project with a 19th-century political ideology. Historians generally view the comparison as an anachronistic stretch rather than a substantiated fact.
Further evidence of the connection can be obtained merely by observing the Jesuits' current-day positions, as is highlighted by this response to a question on Quora:
If the free ‘Jesuits & friends’ magazine distributed at my local Catholic Church is anything to go by, it’s because they ARE leftists. To give just one example, an article on Blessed Rutilio Grande SJ of El Salvador, discusses his work for the poor and his martyrdom, giving only as context the greed of ‘the rich’. This really isn’t good enough. By the time Fr Rutilio was martyred in 1977, sixty years had already passed since the Bolshevik October coup in Russia had hijacked the popular February uprising. Under the Bolsheviks, the newly formed Soviet Union had directed the Comintern to agitate in every area of social , anti-colonial, and anti-imperialist struggle in what we now call the Third World, to win their allegiance to insurrectionary Soviet anti-capitalism, which amounted to declaring war on Western foreign interests and power structures . This Jesuit magazine is so full of talk about social justice that it gives the SJ initials of their order new meaning. Unfortunately, like those of most other social justice warriors nowadays, these Jesuits’ conceptions of social injustice are filched straight form Marx and are just as caricatured. The reason Fr Rutilio was martyred was because the poor community he was trying to serve, was caught up in the Cold War between the US and the Soviet Union, which unfortunately was very hot and brutal in El Salvador. If we fail to remember that right wing forces too were fighting for social justice, in their case against collectivist totalitarianism, we do THEM a grave injustice and get no closer to the virtuous end that most people want. The level of political maturity and knowledge on display in the magazine I’ve mentioned, is about that of a heavily indoctrinated sixth form or university student inflamed with utopian moral perfectionism. I find it deeply depressing that this passes as Catholicism today, and miss the firm hands of Wojtila and Ratzinger who from bitter personal experience knew better.
The Decree Against Communism was a 1949 Catholic Church document issued by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, and approved by Pope Pius XII, which declared Catholics who professed atheistic communist doctrine to be excommunicated as apostates from the Christian faith.
Ok, the Obama admin declared ISIS as a terrorist organization in 2014 yet we know now that his and Bush's admins' CIA and State Dept. created them in the first place! Just like the Catholic church's CIA (the Jesuits) created communism! Don't give me some stupid face-saving, distance-making decree of 1949 when I'm giving you stuff from the 1600s fren. There is no escaping this. The Catholic church is the whore of Babylon and all the other denominations are her daughters. Faith in Christ cannot be institutionalized!
1848: Communism emerges as a modern ideology with Marx and Engels’ The Communist Manifesto.
1849: The Catholic Church takes its first clear anti-communist stance in Pope Pius IX’s encyclical Nostis et Nobiscum.
Summary: Communism was formalized in 1848, and just one year later, in 1849, the Catholic Church responded with its initial opposition, criticizing communism’s anti-religious and socially disruptive ideas. As of April 11, 2025, these events occurred 177 sand 176 years ago, respectively.
Socialist means communist
Communist means goddamn communist
If you believe that, then the video proves it's point.
If Socialism means Communism, then why have Socialism as a word?
It's defines a harmful 19th century cognitive and intellectual illusion and fantasy.
It does to you, but to the next person it means something else.
Look at @cyberriggers definition of it.
Yeah - there's no such thing as socialism - only communism.
Hence why the word is meaningless.
I heard socialism is the economic arm of communism.
Another definition that links back to communism. So then this just proves the point that Socialism is just a word, and that we should just call it Communism.
you could call it the entertainment wing of the communist party
@5:48 -- "... and Obama was a pretty big patriot..."
Yeah, no. And neither was his tranny spouse ("All this for a flag!")
This dude consumes lots of FNM and believes it. Stopped listening after that. But, yes, his point of socialism having many conflicting perceived attributes is fairly well-reasoned (just as is his analogy to defining what a house is). Can't comment on the rest of the video as I didn't watch it all.
I didn't agree with that part as well. Obama was not a patriot to you Americans, he was a sellout and in it for himself/his puppet masters
However, even if you don;t agree on that point I urge you to at least finish the rest of the video. This board I thought was all about listening to differentiating opinions and talking about them.
Communism was perfected by the Jesuits in Paraguay in the 17th century https://greatawakening.win/p/19A12tNri2/new-study-finds-crazy-jew-did-no/c/
Significant differences challenge the idea that this was “perfected communism.” The reductions were not driven by a secular ideology of class struggle or economic equality, as modern communism is, but by a religious mission to convert and “civilize” the Guaraní within a colonial context. The Jesuits maintained strict hierarchical control, and the system depended on their authority rather than egalitarian self-governance. Moreover, the reductions were not a prototype for Marxist communism—Karl Marx’s ideas emerged much later, in the 19th century, influenced by European industrial conditions and philosophical traditions, not Jesuit experiments in South America.
The claim may also originate from fringe theories suggesting Jesuits directly inspired modern communism, sometimes tied to conspiracy narratives about their influence on figures like Marx. No credible historical evidence supports this; Marx’s intellectual roots are well-documented in German philosophy, British economics, and French socialism, not Jesuit writings from Paraguay.
Historically, the reductions achieved remarkable economic success and protected the Guaraní from enslavement by Spanish and Portuguese colonists, peaking with a population of over 140,000 across 30 missions by 1732. Yet, they ended abruptly in 1767 when the Jesuits were expelled from Spanish territories, and the communities largely dissolved, suggesting the system’s reliance on Jesuit oversight rather than an inherent, replicable model.
In short, while the Jesuit reductions shared some features with communal living—collective labor, shared resources—they were a unique product of their religious and colonial context, not a perfected form of communism. The assertion oversimplifies both the reductions and communism, conflating a 17th-century missionary project with a 19th-century political ideology. Historians generally view the comparison as an anachronistic stretch rather than a substantiated fact.
AI slop! Karl Marx was Jesuit-trained and the reductions were the prototype for his ideas. The popes are the anti-christs!
psst you won't find this info casually on the internet where the AIs grab their responses from
Read chapter 10 of this book https://archive.org/details/footprintsofjesu00thom/page/168/mode/1up?view=theater
Further evidence of the connection can be obtained merely by observing the Jesuits' current-day positions, as is highlighted by this response to a question on Quora:
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-Christians-allege-that-Catholicism-is-evil-and-that-Jesuits-invented-Communism-Karl-Marx-was-a-supposed-Jesuit-trained-coadjutor-Can-anyone-cite-any-reliable-sources-Is-it-too-Dan-Brown-Illuminati-Is-it
I found an online version of the magazine. I'm only 4 pages in and I've found a communism! Ha
https://issuu.com/jesuitsinbritain/docs/12250_j_f_summer2024_tp_web?ff
screenshot https://files.catbox.moe/xd0wos.jpeg
I should start reading this. I could use it on people who blame everything on the Jews!
I made a post on this with more in it here https://greatawakening.win/p/19Ax2bxgVN/x/c/4eRUFv0UhJw?d=50
Catholicism is vehemently anti Communist. You gave zero primary sources proving Marx was funded by the priestly order called Jesuits.
Dig this https://greatawakening.win/p/19Ax2bxgVN/x/c/4eRUFv0UhJw
Yeah, just like the politicians are anti-Islamic terror meanwhile they're funding ISIS 😂
The Decree Against Communism was a 1949 Catholic Church document issued by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, and approved by Pope Pius XII, which declared Catholics who professed atheistic communist doctrine to be excommunicated as apostates from the Christian faith.
Ok, the Obama admin declared ISIS as a terrorist organization in 2014 yet we know now that his and Bush's admins' CIA and State Dept. created them in the first place! Just like the Catholic church's CIA (the Jesuits) created communism! Don't give me some stupid face-saving, distance-making decree of 1949 when I'm giving you stuff from the 1600s fren. There is no escaping this. The Catholic church is the whore of Babylon and all the other denominations are her daughters. Faith in Christ cannot be institutionalized!
But we're not allowed to call it what it really is.
Well why not? Just call it out, and let the chips fall where they may.