So, because we can't "cure" broken legs we should abandon casts and crutches? Because we can't "cure" visual impairments, we should abandon glasses and optical implants? Because we can't cure advanced diabetes, which can result in amputation of legs, we should abandon wheelchairs?
This is what they mean when they say that "Perfect" is the enemy of "Good Enough."
Not everything in life is black and white, Deathraydesigner.
You know this & have deliberately avoided getting the point, as you so often do.
Suppressed cures exist for many things. Ivermectin, Fenbendazole, DSMO, etc.
Not even gonna go there trying to explain, because you still won't get it... probably because you don't actually want to get it ... that's the game you play some days. 🙄
Go piss in somebody else's Cheerios... because I'm not in the mood for your bullshit today... Have a nice day.
I know this and I have worked in the prosthetics industry. I have personally benefited from medical technology. I've known people who had neural implants. Which, I think, is more than anyone else is bringing to this discussion.
There is no "suppressed cure" for Lou Gehrig's Disease. There is no "suppressed cure" for a flailing mitral valve. There is no "suppressed cure" for a broken leg. There is no "suppressed cure" for presbyopia. All these things are mitigated by technology. Ivermectin, etc., are not used to replace technological treatment.
There is nothing "black and white" when it comes to dealing with serious disability. Everyone has to make their own decision. But most people choose the technology because they want a whole life, not a fraction of a life. And that is the point that you purists disdain.
We all use computers, hackers and malware notwithstanding. Nobody thinks at all about abandoning computers. The benefits clearly outweigh the risks. You have fantasy fears about biomedical technology from seeing scary science fiction movies, and yet people enthuse about having a self-driving automobile (known to kill people on some occasions). Here Musk has made it possible for someone who was hardly more able than a coma patient to now communicate by thinking. That is a huge up-side. The down-side is hypothetical.
No cures that anyone knows of. To make lens implants we used high-precision injection molding and measured the optical power with equipment that I designed. I had years with my friend who actually HAD brain implants, and got to see how that fared with him. What exactly do you bring to the table except scoffing?
This logic always kills me: "Well, you don't know EVERYTHING, therefore in my ignorance I am at least as smart as you are." Not really. You want to dismiss all technological assists for infirmity because you demand a "cure." Just because you demand it, doesn't mean it will be there. Perhaps there will be down-sides, yes. But that is for the patient to consider. I was banking on a mitral valve repair, not a valve replacement...because the replacement only lasts so long and must be repeated farther down the road. Plus, after working in the prosthetics business, I became very respectful of Original Equipment. I imagine my friend found the implant to be inconvenient. But I am quite sure he found the tremors to be a much greater inconvenience, and obstacle.
But anyway, you are just terrified of shadows of your own imagination. The present technology can map from brain impulses to letters. We have no idea how to map from ideas into brain impulses (and back into ideas), and I doubt we ever will. Sensation is at the lowest end of the vast mountain of intelligence. We have done pretty well with artificial sensation. Artificial perception is harder and it is slow going (I worked in that area). And it gets more complex and subtle above those.
So, because we can't "cure" broken legs we should abandon casts and crutches? Because we can't "cure" visual impairments, we should abandon glasses and optical implants? Because we can't cure advanced diabetes, which can result in amputation of legs, we should abandon wheelchairs?
This is what they mean when they say that "Perfect" is the enemy of "Good Enough."
Not everything in life is black and white, Deathraydesigner.
You know this & have deliberately avoided getting the point, as you so often do.
Suppressed cures exist for many things. Ivermectin, Fenbendazole, DSMO, etc.
Not even gonna go there trying to explain, because you still won't get it... probably because you don't actually want to get it ... that's the game you play some days. 🙄
Go piss in somebody else's Cheerios... because I'm not in the mood for your bullshit today... Have a nice day.
I know this and I have worked in the prosthetics industry. I have personally benefited from medical technology. I've known people who had neural implants. Which, I think, is more than anyone else is bringing to this discussion.
There is no "suppressed cure" for Lou Gehrig's Disease. There is no "suppressed cure" for a flailing mitral valve. There is no "suppressed cure" for a broken leg. There is no "suppressed cure" for presbyopia. All these things are mitigated by technology. Ivermectin, etc., are not used to replace technological treatment.
There is nothing "black and white" when it comes to dealing with serious disability. Everyone has to make their own decision. But most people choose the technology because they want a whole life, not a fraction of a life. And that is the point that you purists disdain.
We all use computers, hackers and malware notwithstanding. Nobody thinks at all about abandoning computers. The benefits clearly outweigh the risks. You have fantasy fears about biomedical technology from seeing scary science fiction movies, and yet people enthuse about having a self-driving automobile (known to kill people on some occasions). Here Musk has made it possible for someone who was hardly more able than a coma patient to now communicate by thinking. That is a huge up-side. The down-side is hypothetical.
No cures that YOU know of... Running a stump grinder lathe making prothetics hardly qualifies you as resident expert on brain implants.
Do you really need me to explain to you the "things that you don't know, you don't know" pie chart?
"Cure" for a broken leg...dude GTFOOH with that strawman crap. Take the perceived victims you speak of with you.
Anytime anyone starts listing qualifications on the net, they pretty much disqualify themselves.
No cures that anyone knows of. To make lens implants we used high-precision injection molding and measured the optical power with equipment that I designed. I had years with my friend who actually HAD brain implants, and got to see how that fared with him. What exactly do you bring to the table except scoffing?
This logic always kills me: "Well, you don't know EVERYTHING, therefore in my ignorance I am at least as smart as you are." Not really. You want to dismiss all technological assists for infirmity because you demand a "cure." Just because you demand it, doesn't mean it will be there. Perhaps there will be down-sides, yes. But that is for the patient to consider. I was banking on a mitral valve repair, not a valve replacement...because the replacement only lasts so long and must be repeated farther down the road. Plus, after working in the prosthetics business, I became very respectful of Original Equipment. I imagine my friend found the implant to be inconvenient. But I am quite sure he found the tremors to be a much greater inconvenience, and obstacle.
But anyway, you are just terrified of shadows of your own imagination. The present technology can map from brain impulses to letters. We have no idea how to map from ideas into brain impulses (and back into ideas), and I doubt we ever will. Sensation is at the lowest end of the vast mountain of intelligence. We have done pretty well with artificial sensation. Artificial perception is harder and it is slow going (I worked in that area). And it gets more complex and subtle above those.