My standard first and foremost is God's Word and truth.
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word I am not going to "respect" that position anymore than I will "respect" some dude's pronouns that's wearing a dress.
The enemy loves isolating believers and keeping them out of church. I'm not going to respect his accomplishments.
I would encourage you to find a solid church, they are out there. There are dozens of churches in my city that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. That doesn't take away from some solid churches out there like the 2 I attend that don't have the problems you listed.
Don't "Do you"
Your Bible actually warns about that quite extensively. Do what God commands.
Slow down there Disco...Nobody is attacking your precious church.
I can only relate MY experience & if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me. Then move along. (You can do something else too, but I'd imagine that's not what the Christ would recommend - so I'll refrain)
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word ...
Cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word". I triple dog dare ya!
What you REALLY mean to say is...
"If anyone is contrary to What my pastor/priest/middleman TOLD ME " which I go around repeating like a self-righteous parrot is VERY different than "contrary to God's Word".
Quit while you're ahead. I'll never attend church ever again. Not Catholic church...not cowboy church...not any church. I don't need anything they're selling. I've got a direct line through Christ to the Almighty...and I don't need to attend beef & beer socials and chip in the second collection for IsisRaEl. But you can if you want...and I levy zero judgement to people that do. You do you.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing. That's pretty lame dude. Grow up already.
Never said you were. Are you really going to misrepresent me and make a straw man fallacy very first thing out of the gate? Do better.
if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me.
I disagree with what you said because it conflicts with scripture. Super simple stuff. Forgive? You didn't sin against me. I'm giving you correction and you are responding like a fool. I don't need to forgive you, I'm instructed to shake the dust off my sandals at this point.
I don't need anything (a church) is selling.
Good churches aren't selling anything.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing.
It's not me, it's God. HE commands believers to be a part of the body of Christ. As a Christian I'm instructed to test everything with scripture and hold my brothers accountable. It seems you don't like accountability which could be your real problem.
I also never said jack crap about supporting Israel. Any decent church with historic eschatology wouldnt be putting Israel central to anything. They would be addressing local and national issues. i.e. my church helped overturn Roe v Wade and have bills of abolition pending all over the nation.
I get it... You had a bad experience with some bad churches. The enemy has used that to separate you from the flock. Now you attack anyone that tries to set your bitterness and offense aside but you're holding onto that sin and bitterness.... just like the enemy wants you to.
The bottom line is you can't support your position from scripture/ God's Word. Reconcile that.
Christians are commanded to come together as a body for learning and worship under supervision and leadership of qualified pastors and elders. You are at odds with that since you refuse to attend church.
Here's just a few of the 50+ verses that support my assertion:
Hebrews 10:24β25 (ESV)
βAnd let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.β
β This directly commands believers not to forsake assembling together.
Acts 2:42 (ESV)
βAnd they devoted themselves to the apostlesβ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.β
β The early church model shows commitment to regular, communal worship and instruction.
1 Corinthians 12:27 (ESV)
βNow you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.β
β This emphasizes every believerβs role within the corporate body, implying active participation.
Ephesians 4:11β13 (ESV)
β...to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith...β
β Ministry and growth happen through mutual edification in the church context.
Colossians 3:16 (ESV)
βLet the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom...β
β This presumes corporate interaction and mutual spiritual encouragement.
Gods word was taught to by men with an AGENDA...a VERY ASCUED AGENDA. The WHOLE Old Testament was getting people to build a NATION that serves God. The USA is that NATION and is CURRENTLY giving BIRTH to that. I know it's hard but keep reading and you will see it eventually.
Tell us what EXACTLY what you will rule & reign when Christ returns and where Heaven is?
Think garden of Eden is in USA? Heaven started in Montana...? Boy are you in for a SUPRIZE...$20 spot says your pastors won't be exactly what you thought.
My standard first and foremost is God's Word and truth.
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word I am not going to "respect" that position anymore than I will "respect" some dude's pronouns that's wearing a dress.
The enemy loves isolating believers and keeping them out of church. I'm not going to respect his accomplishments.
I would encourage you to find a solid church, they are out there. There are dozens of churches in my city that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. That doesn't take away from some solid churches out there like the 2 I attend that don't have the problems you listed.
Don't "Do you" Your Bible actually warns about that quite extensively. Do what God commands.
Slow down there Disco...Nobody is attacking your precious church.
I can only relate MY experience & if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me. Then move along. (You can do something else too, but I'd imagine that's not what the Christ would recommend - so I'll refrain)
Cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word". I triple dog dare ya!
What you REALLY mean to say is...
"If anyone is contrary to What my pastor/priest/middleman TOLD ME " which I go around repeating like a self-righteous parrot is VERY different than "contrary to God's Word".
Quit while you're ahead. I'll never attend church ever again. Not Catholic church...not cowboy church...not any church. I don't need anything they're selling. I've got a direct line through Christ to the Almighty...and I don't need to attend beef & beer socials and chip in the second collection for IsisRaEl. But you can if you want...and I levy zero judgement to people that do. You do you.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing. That's pretty lame dude. Grow up already.
Never said you were. Are you really going to misrepresent me and make a straw man fallacy very first thing out of the gate? Do better.
I disagree with what you said because it conflicts with scripture. Super simple stuff. Forgive? You didn't sin against me. I'm giving you correction and you are responding like a fool. I don't need to forgive you, I'm instructed to shake the dust off my sandals at this point.
Good churches aren't selling anything.
It's not me, it's God. HE commands believers to be a part of the body of Christ. As a Christian I'm instructed to test everything with scripture and hold my brothers accountable. It seems you don't like accountability which could be your real problem.
I also never said jack crap about supporting Israel. Any decent church with historic eschatology wouldnt be putting Israel central to anything. They would be addressing local and national issues. i.e. my church helped overturn Roe v Wade and have bills of abolition pending all over the nation.
I get it... You had a bad experience with some bad churches. The enemy has used that to separate you from the flock. Now you attack anyone that tries to set your bitterness and offense aside but you're holding onto that sin and bitterness.... just like the enemy wants you to.
The bottom line is you can't support your position from scripture/ God's Word. Reconcile that.
Good day
All that judgement and presumption and you didn't cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word".
I knew you wouldn't...
Lol now you're being dishonest.
I'll say it again more simply...
Christians are commanded to come together as a body for learning and worship under supervision and leadership of qualified pastors and elders. You are at odds with that since you refuse to attend church.
Here's just a few of the 50+ verses that support my assertion:
Hebrews 10:24β25 (ESV) βAnd let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.β β This directly commands believers not to forsake assembling together.
Acts 2:42 (ESV) βAnd they devoted themselves to the apostlesβ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.β β The early church model shows commitment to regular, communal worship and instruction.
1 Corinthians 12:27 (ESV) βNow you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.β β This emphasizes every believerβs role within the corporate body, implying active participation.
Ephesians 4:11β13 (ESV) β...to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith...β β Ministry and growth happen through mutual edification in the church context.
Colossians 3:16 (ESV) βLet the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom...β β This presumes corporate interaction and mutual spiritual encouragement.
I said good day sir!
Gods word was taught to by men with an AGENDA...a VERY ASCUED AGENDA. The WHOLE Old Testament was getting people to build a NATION that serves God. The USA is that NATION and is CURRENTLY giving BIRTH to that. I know it's hard but keep reading and you will see it eventually. Tell us what EXACTLY what you will rule & reign when Christ returns and where Heaven is? Think garden of Eden is in USA? Heaven started in Montana...? Boy are you in for a SUPRIZE...$20 spot says your pastors won't be exactly what you thought.
Lol dude you know nothing about the science of textual transmission.
I could wipe the floor with your assertions.
Your still talking and I am still standing....NEXT
Standing on stupidity isn't something to brag about.