The question is not whether they haven't (can not be proved, in principle), but whether they have (can be proved, in principle). So, have they? Suspicion is not evidence. Conviction is not proof.
I"m telling you that meteor dust is a proven fact, consisting of mineral elements. Do you want to argue that it is not a fact? Or that it does not add up over tens, hundreds, or thousands of years? I think any fact has more credibility than a paranoid conjecture. (It also turns out that barium is found in brake linings, which---guess what?---wear out over time, leaving dust which is scattered by the wind.)
If "geoengineering" is not happening, state bans against it are like outlawing witchcraft. I haven't heard of any cessation of contrails in the states where such bans have been established. Well done. Mission accomplished. Now in those states, "chemtrail" complainers will need to shut up and admire the contrails.
Aside from reference to ill-considered experimental programs dating back to the 1960s or so, there is no evidence of any spraying programs. Flynn or Kennedy repeating urban myth does not make the myth a reality.
Why would people tell me about something that is not happening? Certainly, the patent staff at Boeing did not think they needed to tell me that what I was proposing was already invented. They pursued the patent protection. Don't you think this is a bit inconsistent with a pre-existing program of particle distribution?
No sauce. Just supposition. And peanut-butter-spreading of past programs into the present. I haven't read the "official 9/11 report," but I have read lots of confused and incorrect speculation about it. The principle of Occam's Razor is not to introduce any hypotheses beyond the necessary minimum---so you are not really invoking its spirit at all by dreaming up stuff out of paranoia.
Let us say that every state and the federal government imposes a ban on geoengineering (which includes most civil engineering projects, but that never seems to reach anyone's attention). Would the necessary outcome be a cessation of contrails? Not in the least. The necessary outcome would BE contrails...unless you can figure out how to get turbine engines to burn powdered coal. I take it for a predictable fact that the "anti-geoengineering" critics would not be happy with the continued existence of persistent contrails. What then? Finally admit that contrails have nothing to do with spraying?
RFKJr is riding a popular horse. If he refers to past experimental programs, he wouldn't be technically wrong. Is General Flynn an expert on this subject? Is Dr. Phil? They are embracing the urban myth, so who is going to throw shade on them. Dane Wiggington is surely not an expert; he cannot even properly identify atmospheric phenomena, but he has pumped himself up to be an "expert" by popular acclamation (from non-experts).
The only things we know for sure that are coming down from the sky are meteoric dust (nobody gives it a thought) and brake lining dust from freeways (blown about by winds). This is an illustration of the blinkered thinking of the anti-geoengineering types: "Well, if I can't IMAGINE any other explanation---there must be NO other explanation." And other explanations are thrown out as inconveniences.
Look at your own argument. You present unresolved questions as though they contained answers. You repeat the chorus of the echo chamber. You refer to public figures like they are authorities. And you settle into your Castle of Bias as a defense against any critical thinking.
So, let me ask you a question: Would the imposition of a ban on spraying of any kind result in the discontinuation of persistent contrails? And if you think so, by what reason are you denying the facts of chemistry and physics and atmospheric science that make them inevitable?
This is world wide. US began it perfected it rest of world caught up.
It would have to be a world wide outright ban on “chemtrailing”
I agree water vapor is possible, but not to the extent I’m seeing it with my own eyes compared to thousands of photos showing intentional checkerboard patterns being drawn out for 100s of miles.
No contrails are "spraying". Water vapor is always the cause. If it is 59 F at ground level, it is 13 F at 1000 feet altitude, and gets far colder as you go higher. The vapor always forms ice crystals. They never descend, and can only sublimate over time. At high altitude, they are persistent, exactly like the clouds at high altitude---because they ARE clouds at high altitude.
"Chessboard" patterns are not regular; they are criss-cross. And they are the natural result of the high level of air traffic---planes going in various directions, all day long. Here is a map of just the routes for United Airlines https://www.airlineroutemaps.com/maps/United_Airlines/USA_Canada And here is a list of airlines operating in the United States and their major hubs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airlines_of_the_United_States If you overlay all this traffic, it would be astounding if it didn't appear as a criss-cross pattern. Such as they are, these trails are many miles apart from one another. And if you can see them against the blue sky, it is because they are BRIGHTER than the sky. Otherwise, they would be invisible, or resemble dark smoke.
The question is not whether they haven't (can not be proved, in principle), but whether they have (can be proved, in principle). So, have they? Suspicion is not evidence. Conviction is not proof.
I"m telling you that meteor dust is a proven fact, consisting of mineral elements. Do you want to argue that it is not a fact? Or that it does not add up over tens, hundreds, or thousands of years? I think any fact has more credibility than a paranoid conjecture. (It also turns out that barium is found in brake linings, which---guess what?---wear out over time, leaving dust which is scattered by the wind.)
If "geoengineering" is not happening, state bans against it are like outlawing witchcraft. I haven't heard of any cessation of contrails in the states where such bans have been established. Well done. Mission accomplished. Now in those states, "chemtrail" complainers will need to shut up and admire the contrails.
Aside from reference to ill-considered experimental programs dating back to the 1960s or so, there is no evidence of any spraying programs. Flynn or Kennedy repeating urban myth does not make the myth a reality.
Why would people tell me about something that is not happening? Certainly, the patent staff at Boeing did not think they needed to tell me that what I was proposing was already invented. They pursued the patent protection. Don't you think this is a bit inconsistent with a pre-existing program of particle distribution?
Your responses seem to touch a lot of science and philosophical way of thinking.
By that standard you trust the official 9/11 Report?
As Q simply states when in doubt okamz razor is usually at play.
And that scale seems to tip more to being true of some form of mass spray/manipulation by entities across globe.
Especially now have a verified CONFIRM from one of Trumps top officials with RFK JR. Not to mention Flynn and Dr Phill bringing it to the masses.
I can’t see RFK ending up as some double double agent meant to harm or smear the movement.
I can’t see why Q Disinfo would be at play for leading public on about geoengineering/mass spraying.
Interesting RFK JR seems to even NAME the agency as DARPA. Huh. Just like the conspiracy has always leaned.
So IMO the Illuminati deep state Kabal or whoever did 9/11 and DARPA sprays nanotech. It’s in everything. The air. Water. Food.
No sauce. Just supposition. And peanut-butter-spreading of past programs into the present. I haven't read the "official 9/11 report," but I have read lots of confused and incorrect speculation about it. The principle of Occam's Razor is not to introduce any hypotheses beyond the necessary minimum---so you are not really invoking its spirit at all by dreaming up stuff out of paranoia.
Let us say that every state and the federal government imposes a ban on geoengineering (which includes most civil engineering projects, but that never seems to reach anyone's attention). Would the necessary outcome be a cessation of contrails? Not in the least. The necessary outcome would BE contrails...unless you can figure out how to get turbine engines to burn powdered coal. I take it for a predictable fact that the "anti-geoengineering" critics would not be happy with the continued existence of persistent contrails. What then? Finally admit that contrails have nothing to do with spraying?
RFKJr is riding a popular horse. If he refers to past experimental programs, he wouldn't be technically wrong. Is General Flynn an expert on this subject? Is Dr. Phil? They are embracing the urban myth, so who is going to throw shade on them. Dane Wiggington is surely not an expert; he cannot even properly identify atmospheric phenomena, but he has pumped himself up to be an "expert" by popular acclamation (from non-experts).
The only things we know for sure that are coming down from the sky are meteoric dust (nobody gives it a thought) and brake lining dust from freeways (blown about by winds). This is an illustration of the blinkered thinking of the anti-geoengineering types: "Well, if I can't IMAGINE any other explanation---there must be NO other explanation." And other explanations are thrown out as inconveniences.
Look at your own argument. You present unresolved questions as though they contained answers. You repeat the chorus of the echo chamber. You refer to public figures like they are authorities. And you settle into your Castle of Bias as a defense against any critical thinking.
So, let me ask you a question: Would the imposition of a ban on spraying of any kind result in the discontinuation of persistent contrails? And if you think so, by what reason are you denying the facts of chemistry and physics and atmospheric science that make them inevitable?
Not all contrails but some.
This is world wide. US began it perfected it rest of world caught up.
It would have to be a world wide outright ban on “chemtrailing”
I agree water vapor is possible, but not to the extent I’m seeing it with my own eyes compared to thousands of photos showing intentional checkerboard patterns being drawn out for 100s of miles.
No contrails are "spraying". Water vapor is always the cause. If it is 59 F at ground level, it is 13 F at 1000 feet altitude, and gets far colder as you go higher. The vapor always forms ice crystals. They never descend, and can only sublimate over time. At high altitude, they are persistent, exactly like the clouds at high altitude---because they ARE clouds at high altitude.
"Chessboard" patterns are not regular; they are criss-cross. And they are the natural result of the high level of air traffic---planes going in various directions, all day long. Here is a map of just the routes for United Airlines https://www.airlineroutemaps.com/maps/United_Airlines/USA_Canada And here is a list of airlines operating in the United States and their major hubs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airlines_of_the_United_States If you overlay all this traffic, it would be astounding if it didn't appear as a criss-cross pattern. Such as they are, these trails are many miles apart from one another. And if you can see them against the blue sky, it is because they are BRIGHTER than the sky. Otherwise, they would be invisible, or resemble dark smoke.