I think the difference here is you’re trusting the testimony of known liars who had multiple incentives to lie, but may well have been telling the truth for once, who knows?
I’m pointing out that they’re telling stories, with video footage that can be, and appears to be, faked, and that I don’t trust their stories because they’re known liars.
Am I right? Maybe, maybe not. Are you right? Maybe, maybe not. Are we arguing about stories? Yes.
In any courtroom, the burden of proof is on the claimant. I’m not making a single claim, but rejecting claims. You’re the one forwarding the claims. The burden of proof is on you. My evidence that it’s fake is the same as your evidence that it’s real. Bit of a quandary there, huh?
Testimony of what "known liars"? The people running the Apollo program? Any proof for this libel?
Well, you are not right. The hardware sent and returned prove you wrong.
No, in a court the burden of proof is on the one declaring another party is a fraud. The Moon landings have been substantiated by samples, photos, telemetry, and testimony. Prove them wrong. It is on you.
But it is true. The case has already been proven by the mission with the evidence returned. Read up on the evidence, since you seem to be saying you are not familiar with it. Their case stands...unless you can prove it to be false. So, get on with it. They have already proven to the world what the world accepts as proof, mainly because the world was also tracking the radio communications and can confirm they went to the Moon. There is also the fact that the laser retroreflectors put in place are still an ongoing experiment: https://www.space.com/apollo-retroreflector-experiment-still-going-50-years-later.html
I think the difference here is you’re trusting the testimony of known liars who had multiple incentives to lie, but may well have been telling the truth for once, who knows?
I’m pointing out that they’re telling stories, with video footage that can be, and appears to be, faked, and that I don’t trust their stories because they’re known liars.
Am I right? Maybe, maybe not. Are you right? Maybe, maybe not. Are we arguing about stories? Yes.
In any courtroom, the burden of proof is on the claimant. I’m not making a single claim, but rejecting claims. You’re the one forwarding the claims. The burden of proof is on you. My evidence that it’s fake is the same as your evidence that it’s real. Bit of a quandary there, huh?
Testimony of what "known liars"? The people running the Apollo program? Any proof for this libel?
Well, you are not right. The hardware sent and returned prove you wrong.
No, in a court the burden of proof is on the one declaring another party is a fraud. The Moon landings have been substantiated by samples, photos, telemetry, and testimony. Prove them wrong. It is on you.
Haha nice way of flipping it.
But it is true. The case has already been proven by the mission with the evidence returned. Read up on the evidence, since you seem to be saying you are not familiar with it. Their case stands...unless you can prove it to be false. So, get on with it. They have already proven to the world what the world accepts as proof, mainly because the world was also tracking the radio communications and can confirm they went to the Moon. There is also the fact that the laser retroreflectors put in place are still an ongoing experiment: https://www.space.com/apollo-retroreflector-experiment-still-going-50-years-later.html
I release you to go be happy. Sorry that I don’t trust The World™. It’s not gonna happen anytime soon.