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posted ago by winn ago by winn +44 / -0

Sorry, I tried to keep this short but I failed.

I realize this term has been applied to various positions and that what I'm about to describe might be different from what you understand it to mean. You'll have to bear with me on that.


My problem with Christian Nationalism is this: Who decides how to interpret Christianity?

Within Christianity there are many different views on its doctrines.

  • Some say we should worship on Saturday, others say Sunday.
  • Some say you have to go to a church, others think you can have church in someone's house.
  • Some say drinking alcohol is a sin, others say it isn't.
  • Some say 'cuss words' are sinful, others say they're not.
  • Some think divorce is only allowed in cases of adultery, others say a woman can divorce if her husband beats her.

The list goes on and on.

We could also address the churches who think they're the 'One True Church' and all the others are heretics, but I honestly hope I don't have to explain the dangers of that mentality being given the Powers of Statehood. Go research the Midieval period.

Now, why am I bringing this up?

Right now as we speak the Vatican, in collusion with secular Climate Change groups, is trying to get the entire world to obey a "Weekly Day of Rest", to "let the earth rest and let people have time for worship". Some call it the "Earth Sabbath". This is of course to be done on Sundays. The push has support in America, as you will see by doing a CTRL + F search for 'Sunday' in the Project 2025 PDF document. Many of the authors of Project 2025 are in the current Trump administration, or in Trump's ear from the sidelines.

⚠️ If this ever gets codified into American Law, your businesses would be forced to obey a particular interpretation of a religious dogma, like it or not. This is a VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT to be setting. I believe all "Blue Laws" are Unconstitutional as well.

I don't care if you think Sunday is the day for church. You don't get to tell my business which day is for church. And you don't get to tell me any other view on any other doctrine and force me to submit to it. You cannot legislate faith in Christ.

People must be free to follow their faith without the State imposing it for them. This is not Sharia Law Iran, this is America.

Be careful what you wish for if you're out there pushing anything like this. The "Christ is King" Nick Fuentes "Groyper" crowd is especially guilty of it. The Eastern Orthodox "Orthobros" are as well (cue the vaporwave DontMakePeaceWithEvil-DestroyIt.gif). There's a community in Idaho which seems headed in this direction, though I haven't done a deep dive into their views yet.

Regardless, I believe I have laid out a good template of caution.

If you see anyone pushing Church-State Union ideas, please, for the love of God, push back on them. Warn them. Walk through the logic with them. Try not to be nasty, as they're often religious zealots who've linked their identity in Christ with their Church-State Union positions. The goal is to get them to comprehend the ramifications of what they're asking for.

They have fallen into the same error many of Christ's followers fell into—they believe that in order for the Kingdom of God to manifest on the earth, there must be a "God Government" forced on the people, just like the followers thought Jesus was going to raise a literal army and overthrow the Roman government to set up a "Godly Government".

But, my fellow christians, how does the Kingdom of God REALLY manifest on earth?

In the hearts of men.

✝️By the power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, men's hearts are changed from wicked, cowardly, cold, selfish hearts into loving, caring, courageous, generous, honest hearts. Men such as these need no government telling them "do this, don't do that". Men such as these, if elected to public office, would not act corruptly. This is how the Kingdom of God manifests on the earth. And the more men we have on earth who are born again, the more the Kingdom of God is manifest. So spread the Gospel frens! If you don't know what it is (it's really SIMPLE!), I'm sure u/Slechta5614 would be happy to share it with you!✝️

But you will say,

what about the "Christians" who also act corruptly?

That is what church is for, to hold each other accountable and help one another grow in the Faith. A christian acting corruptly is either in need of correction, or is just a "Christian in name only" (there are many...). A lot of people were just born into the religion called Christianity and they roll with it without ever actually being born again. Many also use it as a social club or a societal status-marker.

But non-christians will ree:

Hey I'm not a christian and I don't act corruptly!

Then your morality is a ripple-effect of the Cross of Christ, because the world before Christ was UTTERLY wicked. Think of all the things that were accepted as normal! Slavery, prostitution, beating women, raping kids, highway robbery, vengeance killing, and on and on. Through the Gospel these practices have gradually become abhorrent. Men like Socrates I find to have been specially touched by God but for the vast majority people were real sacks of shit! So you, whatever you are, are a by-product of what Jesus did 2,000 years ago, and you need to come meet your Holy Source! He's the Lord of all creation whether you like it or not and you'll FAFO one day (;

Anyways,

The government needs to STAY OUT of the affairs of faith, because it's not their job and frankly, it's none of their business. If a christian is convinced they need to worship on Sunday, they will put their faith ahead of their occupation and find a job that lets them. If a business is convinced they need to close on Sundays, they may. But when the government gets involved, they have a way of screwing things up. As we know.

Whoever wants the State united to their church is a fool and has not studied history in the slightest. Or would you like to see AI-powered blasphemy laws? 🖲️ I believe Russia already has some blasphemy laws on the books in response to the Pussy Riot fiasco.

You see frens, this is an NWO template:

To cause such a moral decay in society that we turn around and beg the State to marry the Church in order to crack down on it. Why do you think San Francisco started letting people rob stores and shit on the street? Because they want you to want a police state. They use extreme liberalism to cause you to beg for extreme fascism. Ping pong.

It doesn't matter which church the State marries, because once the union is complete, those pesky little dogmatic issues can be worked out later. They'll find a way to twist and warp the dogmas to fit their wicked purposes. Trust me.

Again, go research the Middle Ages. Listen to Bill Cooper's Mystery Babylon series. Religious freedom is much more than just allowing you to worship God freely. Religious freedom protects you from how other people worship God. And that is YUUUUUUGE!


Cheers. As always, feel free to add your take on it. If I'm over-reeeeeacting, don't hesitate to let me know! 🐸 I will also be re-posting some of my ✨Greatest Hits✨ in the comments section for further reading as I get the time.

I know Sunday seems like a silly thing to ree over. But what happens when they start codifying other christian dogmas into law? What happens when the Muslims also want some of their dogmas codified? The whole concept is ridiculous, unnecessary, unconstitutional and a recipe for disaster.

u/#peperee