I see the movement of the shirt being from the slowed bullet getting caught in it as well as the blood which shows up almost immediately after the wound on the front of the neck shows. Plus that wound bleeds like an exit wound if you have ever seen someone or something that was shot.
Its the size of a dime, which falls right in line with mid caliber sub sonic or suppressed rounds. it's not an entrance wound. In one of the frames of this video you can literally see his skin stretch as it is being pierced.
No. Even in sub sonic mid caliber, exit wounds produce significant high velocity blood spatter and tissue material expulsion upon exit. We do not see that here.
There is spatter on the collar of his shirt and inside which seeps through moments after. The shirt was elevated some when the bullet exited and most of the spatter ended up on the inside of the shirt. I have a screenshot of it but there does not seem to be a way to post an image in a response.
The neck wound is not consistent with an exit wound at all....the reason it does bleed a lot at first is because of the low pressure of the entrance causing a momentary vacuum effect just like we see with ballistic gel. Then as that closes back up it starts to flow.
I'm still on the rubber bullet to the guy in a mask since 2012 train. Him and his wife came from nowhere, Erika was never her name, zero pictures of their kids faces. In 13 years they came from nowhere and disappeared into nowhere.
It is way too perfect for the goals of the movement now isn't it.... He is the martyr they need to get that final percentage of the population who were stubborn liberals but not psychopaths. Not to mention we are told we are watching a movie. I guess I am just trying to figure out the plot KEK
That thought is always in the back of my mind but at the same time not finding pictures of someone as a child before they were famous is not really proof in and of itself. I am sure there are many people who became famous/popular who don't have teen photos on the internet. I guess if you have gone to his home town and searched the archives I can believe it but searching the internet isn't proof. I come from a time when there wasn't an internet. The only way to do honest research is microfiche in libraries of old news paper articles. Most of that stuff was never digitized...
And it's not just that, it's everything, his wife was never Erika
No kids pictures from any source
His murder screams that it was a mask,
The guy with the knuckle gun isn't even discussed,
The shooter used terms he wouldn't as a kid his age, got a mauser off a roof in two pieces, then had it back together in the woods? That's not happening.
Everything is so BS I can't believe any of the narrative.
Yeah but you don't think that if they thought it would be an issue they wouldn't just find someone that resembled him as a child or even faked one and put it out there. I don't see this as disqualifying. The focus was on morning the man, not reflection on his childhood. They showed images of when he was supposedly starting Turning Point. I am not sure what you are looking for. Them to hark back and say, "Oh and here is Charlie as a baby, and here he is as a terrible two, and an awkward tween. What's the point. I understand the concern but don't feel the weight of the argument.
They want it to be an issue, his memorial was at the Q. The stadium has the nick name the Q. It look like a Q from above. Look at that memorial and the news coverage, sad "murder", but c'mon this whole thing is huge. Charlie was not this huge. "Turning point" "met his wife in Israel by chance" Erika is not her name. He just started talking against Israel. He .. dies .. Everyone looks him up and listens .. all these college kids he's been speaking to for 13 years are old enough to run for Congress next fall.
That stadium is not called "The Q." I'm familiar with the area and it's never been called that. And there is no real resemblance to the letter Q from above.
It's an NFL stadium and who ever pays to sponsor it gets to name it. Right now it's State Farm Stadium.
If anyone could show me a charlie Kirk before 2012 I'd have to reconsider, but I still don't believe it wasn't a psyop even with that information alone.
But it should say something his only existence before that was a letter.
This wasn't a family service. I'm sure there were plenty at private services. This was a nationally televised public service for people who remembered Charlie for his public life as a conservative activist and Christian apologist. That's how people remember him. 99% of people there didn't know him as a child and want to remember him how they remember him. As a young man fighting for America.
I slowed down that video and it looks like the shock wave moves down through the shirt, not up from the mic. It doesn't look like it explodes either. Maybe it is rigged to fire like a gun, but if that is the case it would have been a gut shot by the look of the angle of the mic
Sorry, I thought you meant the hand mic. I guess I am going on visual proof at this point. I see not real proof of an exploding mic. You would think if it would pierce his neck it would also do some kind of damage to the shirt. I see very little evidence of that.
The part that detonated would have been the battery pack on the inside of his shirt, on the backside of the black square you can see on his right shoulder.
I guess I just don't see evidence of an explosion. No gas expansion, no shrapnel, no apparent damage to the shirt where the mic was. In the video I posted, it is not undisputable evidence but it looks like you can see the bullet come in from top left, make the puncture wound with blood spurts, then proceed through his neck stretching the skin before making the exit wound and getting hung up in the shirt making the bulge right before the blood starts flowing. Did you watch the video?
Watch the black square at the top right of the shirt. That is the microphone. The shirt is sandwiched between the black square that we can see and the much larger battery pack inside the shirt and sitting against the skin.
How would a bullet make that black square fly off, when that square is firmly attached to a large battery pack right under it?
If the battery pack detonated, though, that black square would instantly fly off and vanish. And that's what we see in the video.
Dozens, if not hundreds, of very similar devices hidden in pagers killed and injured a whole lot of people in Lebanon one year ago. It doesn't take a lot of force or a big explosion when it's literally at point-blank range.
Maybe but it's going to be tough to defy the laws of physics with a tshirt. What is giving the microphone enough base to shoot a projectile up into someone's brain without ripping a hole in the shirt? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction still holds true as far as I know.
I cannot seem to find the video any longer but there was videos showing a muzzle flash reflected in a window which coincided with the gun shot sound from the same side as this video postulates the shot came from. Still looking for it.
Theory: the microphone clipped to the right side of his shirt - the black square you can see in the photos - had a much larger battery pack on the other side of the shirt.
The battery pack was detonated the same way the Hezbollah pagers were detonated a year ago.
The black square immediately disappears. The shock wave deforms his face and causes his shirt to billow.
The detonation sent a projectile/shrapnel into his neck, causing the severe wound we saw.
I guess that is plausible but doesn't Newtons third law come into play here. Shooting a projectile with enough force to penetrate several inches into someone's body would exert enough force to do more than ruffle a shirt.
That was his earpiece cord…some say
I guess that is a possibility, but I have yet to find any images that show there was an ear piece with a cord coming out of his ear. Do you have any?
Apparently the coroner told Erika that the bullet is still in his body. Does that change this theory??
He's dead, if that's the case why would they not remove it for forensic analysis?
The dynamic of his shirt seems to match front shot theory
I see the movement of the shirt being from the slowed bullet getting caught in it as well as the blood which shows up almost immediately after the wound on the front of the neck shows. Plus that wound bleeds like an exit wound if you have ever seen someone or something that was shot.
If that were an exit would youd see way more blood spatter and tissue and matter being blown out forward which we dont
Its the size of a dime, which falls right in line with mid caliber sub sonic or suppressed rounds. it's not an entrance wound. In one of the frames of this video you can literally see his skin stretch as it is being pierced.
No. Even in sub sonic mid caliber, exit wounds produce significant high velocity blood spatter and tissue material expulsion upon exit. We do not see that here.
There is spatter on the collar of his shirt and inside which seeps through moments after. The shirt was elevated some when the bullet exited and most of the spatter ended up on the inside of the shirt. I have a screenshot of it but there does not seem to be a way to post an image in a response.
The neck wound is not consistent with an exit wound at all....the reason it does bleed a lot at first is because of the low pressure of the entrance causing a momentary vacuum effect just like we see with ballistic gel. Then as that closes back up it starts to flow.
Agree to disagree.
I'm still on the rubber bullet to the guy in a mask since 2012 train. Him and his wife came from nowhere, Erika was never her name, zero pictures of their kids faces. In 13 years they came from nowhere and disappeared into nowhere.
Q drops suggest it was planned.
Serious question, do you think charley and the entire movement was produced including his death? A show?
It is way too perfect for the goals of the movement now isn't it.... He is the martyr they need to get that final percentage of the population who were stubborn liberals but not psychopaths. Not to mention we are told we are watching a movie. I guess I am just trying to figure out the plot KEK
While trying not to, yes. So far. The information lines up no other way.
That thought is always in the back of my mind but at the same time not finding pictures of someone as a child before they were famous is not really proof in and of itself. I am sure there are many people who became famous/popular who don't have teen photos on the internet. I guess if you have gone to his home town and searched the archives I can believe it but searching the internet isn't proof. I come from a time when there wasn't an internet. The only way to do honest research is microfiche in libraries of old news paper articles. Most of that stuff was never digitized...
As big as that memorial was, they'd show a picture of young Charlie if it existed.
And it's not just that, it's everything, his wife was never Erika No kids pictures from any source His murder screams that it was a mask, The guy with the knuckle gun isn't even discussed, The shooter used terms he wouldn't as a kid his age, got a mauser off a roof in two pieces, then had it back together in the woods? That's not happening.
Everything is so BS I can't believe any of the narrative.
I agree, the patsy did not shoot him if he was shot. This was not a 30-06 wound. Half his neck would be gone if not more.
It wasnt in two pieces off the roof it was never dissasembled after the shot
Footage of him getting off the roof means the gun must have flew into the woods in one piece, then.
Unless he had help, his help definitely left it in the woods to get away. /Sarcasm
Yeah but you don't think that if they thought it would be an issue they wouldn't just find someone that resembled him as a child or even faked one and put it out there. I don't see this as disqualifying. The focus was on morning the man, not reflection on his childhood. They showed images of when he was supposedly starting Turning Point. I am not sure what you are looking for. Them to hark back and say, "Oh and here is Charlie as a baby, and here he is as a terrible two, and an awkward tween. What's the point. I understand the concern but don't feel the weight of the argument.
They want it to be an issue, his memorial was at the Q. The stadium has the nick name the Q. It look like a Q from above. Look at that memorial and the news coverage, sad "murder", but c'mon this whole thing is huge. Charlie was not this huge. "Turning point" "met his wife in Israel by chance" Erika is not her name. He just started talking against Israel. He .. dies .. Everyone looks him up and listens .. all these college kids he's been speaking to for 13 years are old enough to run for Congress next fall.
That stadium is not called "The Q." I'm familiar with the area and it's never been called that. And there is no real resemblance to the letter Q from above.
It's an NFL stadium and who ever pays to sponsor it gets to name it. Right now it's State Farm Stadium.
Everyone is fully capable of covering any "holes" in the narrative but they are doing the reverse, while holes exist. They want the holes.
If anyone could show me a charlie Kirk before 2012 I'd have to reconsider, but I still don't believe it wasn't a psyop even with that information alone.
But it should say something his only existence before that was a letter.
High school yearbooks would clear it up easy. I bet his mom and dad have plenty of photos
They didn't even show a younger picture at his memorial. When does that ever happen.
I have seen a video of a yearbook picture of him. Someone that went to school with him was showing it. I will have to see if I can find it.
This wasn't a family service. I'm sure there were plenty at private services. This was a nationally televised public service for people who remembered Charlie for his public life as a conservative activist and Christian apologist. That's how people remember him. 99% of people there didn't know him as a child and want to remember him how they remember him. As a young man fighting for America.
Some say exploding mic under his shirt. And that is a cord. Remember the exploding pagers.
But he almost always uses a hand mike. In fact he has it in his hand when he was shot.
The hand mic is for the PA speaker system aimed toward the crowd. The shirt mic is for the video recordings they upload online.
https://x.com/BadEmpanadaCPS/status/1969988607667843178?t=MwwXD2fVAYEkGbf0kclzCQ&s=19
I slowed down that video and it looks like the shock wave moves down through the shirt, not up from the mic. It doesn't look like it explodes either. Maybe it is rigged to fire like a gun, but if that is the case it would have been a gut shot by the look of the angle of the mic
Sorry, I thought you meant the hand mic. I guess I am going on visual proof at this point. I see not real proof of an exploding mic. You would think if it would pierce his neck it would also do some kind of damage to the shirt. I see very little evidence of that.
The part that detonated would have been the battery pack on the inside of his shirt, on the backside of the black square you can see on his right shoulder.
I guess I just don't see evidence of an explosion. No gas expansion, no shrapnel, no apparent damage to the shirt where the mic was. In the video I posted, it is not undisputable evidence but it looks like you can see the bullet come in from top left, make the puncture wound with blood spurts, then proceed through his neck stretching the skin before making the exit wound and getting hung up in the shirt making the bulge right before the blood starts flowing. Did you watch the video?
Watch the black square at the top right of the shirt. That is the microphone. The shirt is sandwiched between the black square that we can see and the much larger battery pack inside the shirt and sitting against the skin.
How would a bullet make that black square fly off, when that square is firmly attached to a large battery pack right under it?
If the battery pack detonated, though, that black square would instantly fly off and vanish. And that's what we see in the video.
Dozens, if not hundreds, of very similar devices hidden in pagers killed and injured a whole lot of people in Lebanon one year ago. It doesn't take a lot of force or a big explosion when it's literally at point-blank range.
They've had a year to perfect these things.
Watch the black square.
https://x.com/jonaaronbray/status/1968490136754078125?t=-G0c0eQb_T6xDr03ZwdDrw&s=19
This is what the exploding pagers looked like. Unless they got way more precise I don't see how it could be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JceqgG5nP40
I would imagine there's technology we haven't seen. And that's what scares me. Is there threats to our leaders that we done recognize?
Maybe but it's going to be tough to defy the laws of physics with a tshirt. What is giving the microphone enough base to shoot a projectile up into someone's brain without ripping a hole in the shirt? For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction still holds true as far as I know.
I cannot seem to find the video any longer but there was videos showing a muzzle flash reflected in a window which coincided with the gun shot sound from the same side as this video postulates the shot came from. Still looking for it.
So the shot was behind the glass and didnt break the glass? Its not a muzzle flash
No it was a reflection.
That analysis was on this link. I don't have a Twitter; it says age restricted now, so I'm not sure if it's still available.
https://x.com/ProjectConstitu/status/1968645577945620533
Theory: the microphone clipped to the right side of his shirt - the black square you can see in the photos - had a much larger battery pack on the other side of the shirt.
The battery pack was detonated the same way the Hezbollah pagers were detonated a year ago.
The black square immediately disappears. The shock wave deforms his face and causes his shirt to billow.
The detonation sent a projectile/shrapnel into his neck, causing the severe wound we saw.
I guess that is plausible but doesn't Newtons third law come into play here. Shooting a projectile with enough force to penetrate several inches into someone's body would exert enough force to do more than ruffle a shirt.
Save the video and repost to catbox.