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posted 261 days ago by MuckeyDuck 261 days ago by MuckeyDuck +27 / -0
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– MuckeyDuck [S] 4 points 261 days ago +4 / -0

For what it's worth I asked Grok: Are claims made in this tweet true?

Here is answer. Interpret this response as you choose. I just thought it's important to make effort to vet claims made.

No, the claims in the tweet are not true. They significantly misrepresent the provisions of H.R. 1, the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," which was signed into law by President Trump on July 4, 2025. I'll break down the key claims from the tweet and explain why they're inaccurate based on the actual law.

Claim 1: A "Remittance Law" effective now (as of October 2, 2025) requires Real ID and a fee to send money via services like Western Union, effectively banning undocumented immigrants from doing so.

This is false. The relevant provision in H.R. 1 imposes a 1% excise tax on non-commercial "remittance transfers" (money sent from a U.S. resident to a non-U.S. citizen or resident abroad via electronic funds transfer providers like Western Union). However:

  • There is no Real ID requirement for senders—verified citizenship or SSN is mentioned only for limited exemptions or credits, but not as a barrier to sending money.
  • The tax does not ban remittances for undocumented immigrants; it simply adds a small fee on top of the transfer amount.
  • The effective date is January 1, 2026, not October 1, 2025 (or any date in October). Until then, remittances remain untaxed under this law.

The tweet appears to conflate the remittance tax with the separate REAL ID enforcement deadline (May 7, 2025, for domestic air travel and federal facilities), which has nothing to do with money transfers.

Claim 2: This prevents "illegals" from coming here, working for cash, getting government aid, and sending money back (e.g., to Mexico).

This is misleading and overstated. The 1% tax applies to all qualifying remittances regardless of the sender's immigration status—it doesn't target or block undocumented immigrants specifically. Undocumented senders can still transfer money (with the fee deducted), and workarounds like using proxies or informal channels would likely persist, as noted in replies to the tweet. The law aims to raise revenue (estimated at $10–20 billion annually) and discourage some migration incentives, but it doesn't create a "ban" or tie remittances to aid eligibility.

Claim 3: $60 billion leaves the U.S. annually through these transfers, tax-free.

This is partially inaccurate. Total U.S. outbound remittances (from all immigrants, legal and undocumented) were estimated at over $200 billion in 2024–2025, with a significant portion going to Mexico and other Latin American countries. However, no reliable source pins the undocumented-specific figure at exactly $60 billion—estimates for undocumented remittances vary but are often lower (around $20–50 billion total for Latin America). Pre-law, these were indeed largely tax-free, but the new 1% tax changes that starting in 2026.

In summary, the tweet celebrates a viral exaggeration of the law as an immediate "ban" tied to Real ID, when it's actually a modest future tax with no such restrictions. This fits a pattern of misinformation around the bill's immigration provisions, which supporters hype as a major deterrent to illegal immigration.

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– Mr_A 3 points 261 days ago +3 / -0

The headline is pure BS. Remittances have always required identification when over a certain amount, and that's unchanged. No relation to "real ID." When ID is needed, it can be any kind of ID, including foreign passports. More detail in the comment by MuckeyDuck.

The money transfer tax is separate, and won't make much difference overall, although it will produce a lot of revenue. There are also reasons why it might be struck down as illegal or in violation of treaties before it goes into effect.

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– MuckeyDuck [S] 1 point 261 days ago +1 / -0

I am deleting this post as it seems it is largely untrue.

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– Mr_A 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

👍

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– DIAFhillary 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

It would be amazing if it is real but as stated below it doesn't appear to be. His post is probably clickbait.

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks for checking your post fren.

It looks as if you've withdrawn it and that is very responsible if the sources aren't adding up.

Appreciate it.

Have great day and thanks.

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– MuckeyDuck [S] 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks you.

I did check the claim out and it appeared to be mostly untrue, so I deleted it.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

o7 fren!

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– ILearnedToCode 2 points 261 days ago +2 / -0

Lots of self deportations if true.

Even if false, pushing this narrative might drive some self deportations anyways

u/#catdance

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– MuckeyDuck [S] 1 point 261 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks mods

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