Learning moment: Confirmation is the Catholic version of born again. Catholics are Christians. Yes, they are looked down upon by Protestants who rejected books from the first bible to suit their liking. But, Yes, they do read and are taught the Bible, a few additional books, but they do follow the word.
I would highly recommend you quit splitting hairs over who is most Christian. If Christians don’t ban together, our women will be wearing burqas and many of our men will be dead.
Thank you for this. It's amazing how many Protestants feel that Catholics are not Christian.
Christians believe in the Holy Trinity and the Roman Catholics were the first Christian religion to form from the early Christians. Protestants are a branch of Catholicism whether they like it or not. As all Christians are a branch of the Jewish faith as well.
Christianity is not a branch of Judaism. Christian's core tenant is that Jesus is the Son of God and Christ Messiah, something Jews regard as heresy. Sure, both have Abrahamic roots, just as Islam does, but that's where the similarities end. Christ's new covenant overrode Moses' old covenant and after that, established an entirely separate religion.
So what is the Old Testament to you? All Christian bibles contain one. It is just as much a part of Christianity as the New Testament. Yet it is our history as much as the Jews.
Jesus was a Jew His apostles were all Jews. Read ACTS to see they converted many of the Jews to Christianity before they converted the Gentiles.
In ACTS Peter recognized that all people on earth were God’s people and could become Christians
I often wonder if the Christian’s of this world are now God’s Chosen people.
I believe there were quit a few Spirit filled Christians who took the JAB, so to answer you're question....
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
PLENTY of people I see on here who are closer to God than most church going Christians let me tell you.
I went to Catholic school for two years before my parents put me in public school. However, I was never baptized & my parents were not practicing Catholics. I remember learning all the things the Catholic kids learned - our class would walk around the church stopping at each station of the cross. As I recall they were very intense about their love for Jesus.
I agree, you must believe in the correct Jesus, and yes Catholics do teach the correct Jesus, in my opinion. Are you implying however a works doctrine vs a grace doctrine? Just wondering. I am not familiar with the Catholic view on that doctrine.
Catholics are told that they are born again when they are baptized with water as a child. Even though the Bible says you must be born of the Holy Spirit. There is also the Sacrament of Confirmation (teen years) which is confirming their baptismal vows that were said for them by their Godparents. Most Catholics don’t read the Bible. They rely on Priests to teach them. They must go deeper. I am a born again Catholic. I will never not be Catholic. I do think the Church needs to do better in this area.
I am with you. As a young adult I went searching. As a Catholic out of my predominantly Catholic area, I realized how hated Catholics are by Protestants. Could so many be wrong. I took a world religions class to find out exactly what others believed. EYE OPENER! So I pulled my Catholic bible back out and started reading.
2 of my main sticking points I have been told time and time again - I can’t get to heaven through works. Yet, I’ve read we will be judged on our works.
And there is no purgatory? My question is if there is no escape from hell, where does our spirit go until heaven? Where does it “sleep?” I know I don’t have all the answers because I have never died that I know of. How can they be so sure?
As in any christian religion, not all catholics are christian is the sense of being born again and filled with the holy spirit.
Learning moment: Confirmation is the Catholic version of born again. Catholics are Christians. Yes, they are looked down upon by Protestants who rejected books from the first bible to suit their liking. But, Yes, they do read and are taught the Bible, a few additional books, but they do follow the word.
I would highly recommend you quit splitting hairs over who is most Christian. If Christians don’t ban together, our women will be wearing burqas and many of our men will be dead.
Thank you for this. It's amazing how many Protestants feel that Catholics are not Christian.
Christians believe in the Holy Trinity and the Roman Catholics were the first Christian religion to form from the early Christians. Protestants are a branch of Catholicism whether they like it or not. As all Christians are a branch of the Jewish faith as well.
Christianity is not a branch of Judaism. Christian's core tenant is that Jesus is the Son of God and Christ Messiah, something Jews regard as heresy. Sure, both have Abrahamic roots, just as Islam does, but that's where the similarities end. Christ's new covenant overrode Moses' old covenant and after that, established an entirely separate religion.
So what is the Old Testament to you? All Christian bibles contain one. It is just as much a part of Christianity as the New Testament. Yet it is our history as much as the Jews.
Jesus was a Jew His apostles were all Jews. Read ACTS to see they converted many of the Jews to Christianity before they converted the Gentiles.
In ACTS Peter recognized that all people on earth were God’s people and could become Christians
I often wonder if the Christian’s of this world are now God’s Chosen people.
I believe there were quit a few Spirit filled Christians who took the JAB, so to answer you're question....
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
PLENTY of people I see on here who are closer to God than most church going Christians let me tell you.
I went to Catholic school for two years before my parents put me in public school. However, I was never baptized & my parents were not practicing Catholics. I remember learning all the things the Catholic kids learned - our class would walk around the church stopping at each station of the cross. As I recall they were very intense about their love for Jesus.
If you believe in the Holy Trinity (as Catholics do) you are Christian. Getting into Heaven is a different story.
I agree, you must believe in the correct Jesus, and yes Catholics do teach the correct Jesus, in my opinion. Are you implying however a works doctrine vs a grace doctrine? Just wondering. I am not familiar with the Catholic view on that doctrine.
Catholics are told that they are born again when they are baptized with water as a child. Even though the Bible says you must be born of the Holy Spirit. There is also the Sacrament of Confirmation (teen years) which is confirming their baptismal vows that were said for them by their Godparents. Most Catholics don’t read the Bible. They rely on Priests to teach them. They must go deeper. I am a born again Catholic. I will never not be Catholic. I do think the Church needs to do better in this area.
I am with you. As a young adult I went searching. As a Catholic out of my predominantly Catholic area, I realized how hated Catholics are by Protestants. Could so many be wrong. I took a world religions class to find out exactly what others believed. EYE OPENER! So I pulled my Catholic bible back out and started reading.
2 of my main sticking points I have been told time and time again - I can’t get to heaven through works. Yet, I’ve read we will be judged on our works.
And there is no purgatory? My question is if there is no escape from hell, where does our spirit go until heaven? Where does it “sleep?” I know I don’t have all the answers because I have never died that I know of. How can they be so sure?