Not a troll post but a genuine question. If the Bible states a rich man can never get into heaven, and Trump and his family are rich, but if they end up successfully saving the country from the Satanists and help restore and protect Christianity in America, will they still not get into heaven? I don't see them giving up their money anytime soon, and they kind of DO need that money in order to run for POTUS and do a lot of the things they need to get done, not to mention protect themselves, so it does beg the question.
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It doesn't say rich can't enter heaven.
It just says its harder for them.
The rich can help people more than poor people,as they have the means.....
Exactly..Bible also say do not curse the rich..and Jesus said with men it’s impossible, but with God ALL things are possible.
Exactly, Pbman2.
Many of the rich -- most, I suspect, if we're talking the Ultra Rich -- are callous and more than a few are psychopathic.
But certainly not all.
Trump, Musk, and a number of others are clearly people of good will despite personality quirks that help them build fortunes.
And then there are those who simply inherit wealth -- who don't need the drive and the less-empathic view of others that often help the very rich become so rich.
Thank you! It says it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get to Heaven. Luke 18:25 KJV For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. https://tbibles.com/xuUQ
My church actually did a study not that long ago on this passage.
Part was a discussion which I've forgotten the details of, but essentially said that, the eye of a needle was NOT a reference to a sewing needle. I wish I remembered, but it was more like an arch or doorway, that would be difficult for a camel to go through (as big as they are). The example was not to say it is impossible for wealthy to make it to heaven, but that the wealthy often have priorities on other things than salvation. Other things other than Christ or their fellow man.
Locally, I know several millionaires that are some of the nicest and most generous people you've ever met.
Several of them sponsor local programs to help the needy, children's programs, missions, etc. They are businessmen who genuinely give back to the community, and give much of their wealth anonymously to the local Christian college, Christian schools, churches, etc.
I would not be presumptuous enough to say they won't receive grace.
IIRC there was a scholar that taught me that one of the gates into Jerusalem was called the needle (or the specific Hebrew phrase used in that passage) that was incredibly hard to get camels through that were loaded up. Often needing to remove lots of items off the packs to be able to get through.
So the message was supposed to be that holding onto things, instead of focusing on the goal of getting where you needed to be, was the problem & that many wealthy would refuse to shed things/materialism to gain access through the gates of heaven.
Not impossible, but lots of proper balancing & careful maneuvering, even after unloading excess.
edit: u/StormSailor I hope this pings you. The context of this discussion may help you understand. I really wish I could recall more of the details of that lesson.
Nice work, I believe you are correct on this.
Like most things, the original intent has been skewed by time and ne'er-do-wells.
Was hoping someone would bring this up. Used to believe it was a physical impossibility. Nope, just slow and hard
IMHO, money is an amplifier. If you are an ass, money will multiply that. If you are kind, generous and compassionate- money will amplify that to