Unfortunately, the wording in some Q posts makes it seem as if they will be doing most if not all of it.
We are not going to be hosting military tribunals, or throwing people in Gitmo. We were told no civil war, which I'm not sure how we avoid that, if its on We the People to come together. We still have no power to lock people up, we're waiting on Q+ to do that.
And if the answer revolves solely around God, and he wins in the end (which I believe), what exactly are we fighting over on this earth?
It's good that you raise this point. It really is important.
I guess my view is that an important, and critical part, of the Q operation was to encourage anons (and everyone else who followed the drops, who I would call Q-patriots) and give us morale support, etc, and engender our trust in POTUS and the operation behind him at a critical juncture.
But we are almost 8 years away from that time. So where are we now?
When you child is small, you tell them, "just trust me, I will take care of you. Do what Daddy and Mummy say, and everything will work out."
But then, what if at 18 years of age, you child comes to you and says, "you told me to just trust you and do whatever you say". You'd know you failed as a parent. because your job is to guide and help that child to grow to maturity, to become a self-responsible adult, not simply a child doing whatever Daddy tells them.
During that period: 2017 - 2020 (essentially), it was really important for the awakening movement that people believed that what Q was talking about was actually possible. To have faith. To be willing to engage, think, act.
The point of the article, I think, is that if people remain in a 2017-2020 mindset, like children just following Q, they become increasingly vulnerable to people who infiltrate to exploit and redirect the Awakening movement.
It happened during that period (17-20), many times. But Q would redirect people back on track. But now, we have to be able to do that ourselves. Independent, taking all that we have learned, and then moving ahead.
Trump is in the White House, and many of the key the objectives that Q talked about are well on their way. But, we still have to engage and work. Maybe now its time for all of us to partake in the heavy lifting.
What do I mean? POTUS (and team) has their responsibility, to oversee those things you mentioned. But we also have ours. Our heavy lifting involves: growing mentally, increasing our awakening by becoming independent and critical thinkers, and improving our own situation and environment, aka community, etc.
Different responsibilities, both actually very important to building that new world Q said they would show us. (DJT is showing us directly, right now.)
A primary goal of the Q operation was to prevent patriots from taking things into their own hands, which would ruin the greater plan and help the cabal.
This is an information war. Tens of thousands of Q-believing patriots fight it every day on social media, forums like this, and by sharing truth in the real world and getting involved locally. Serious anons are not sitting on their hands waiting for military arrests.
So there is a plan, and they are doing the heavy lifting. And will this result in arrests or removal/neutralization? And if so, is that not "doing it for us?"
Because ultimately you said
In my opinion, the former echoes the mentality of a people willing to accept monarchs as the true rulers
Yet you state that Q is doing all this work and we're just to disseminate it. So I'm having a hard time reconciling what you're saying.
I think its only 'unfortunate' if you view the Q operation in a certain way.
More and more, I think that the Q operation was a good (moral, positive intent) psyop to awaken and mobilize people around the world, to
a) wake up to the reality of how evil has been controlling the world (and us)
b) building the necessary grassroots (groundswell) of support that is necessary and critical for the 'top' - aka POTUS - to carry out the plan.
What Q posted was defined by these objectives. Like certain scriptures, if you take everything (everything!) literally, when it is meant otherwise, you miss the point.
Example: "I have come to cast fire upon the earth! Would that it was already kindled...." Jesus.
Jesus is NOT talking about literal fire, but the fire of truth. So, what's the message? My mission is to liberate the world with the power of truth, but the task is made harder when my people are not awake or sensitive to truth!
We are not going to be hosting....
Right. But this does not remove the fact that the restoration of America HAS TO BE a joint operation, between the elected President (Trump) and the American people. Neither of them can do this alone.
Taking the drops by Q to mean "you don't have to do anything, we are going to do everything" is a shortcut to failure, imo. So, the question is, HOW do you understand or interpret the drops, including those drops that appear to say one thing, when perhaps the purpose is not literal.
Some people take "you are watching a show" to be completely literal, that every person is an actor, all the people on the bad side have been executed and replaced, and that nothing at all is real. It's all "to wake up the normies".
From my perspective, this is a failed interpretation. So then, what does "you are watching a show mean?". If your interpretation does not mobilize you to greater engagement, responsibility and action as a factor in the information war, then what is that interpretation worth, if the main purpose of the Q operation was to get you to engage, take responsibility, become an active positive element in the information war, and think independently?
And if the answer revolves solely around God
Well, if you read my comment, it should be clear that I am saying the answer does NOT solely revolve around God.
"The only thing required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing"
The perspective is this: God created this world, and empowered us with both free will and responsibility as an integral part of the design, because that design, and purpose, is a joint cooperation of God's children with their Father. When we fail, God's will is prolonged. God's will never changes, but how quickly is it accomplished? This depends on how united <we> are with God.
Fail, reject God, and God's purpose for you is delayed. Unite with God, and His will for you is accomplished.
Do you see the point? It's not ONE or THE OTHER. It's not that God does everything and humans do nothing, or God does nothing and humans do everything.
Likewise, what the Q operation is directly implying (by even existing) is that its not EITHER the White Hats will do everything and we do nothing OR we do everything and the white hats do nothing. It was an operation by the White Hats to get us to wake up and realize what we have to do, what OUR responsibility is, for the plan to work.
Unfortunately, the wording in some Q posts makes it seem as if they will be doing most if not all of it.
We are not going to be hosting military tribunals, or throwing people in Gitmo. We were told no civil war, which I'm not sure how we avoid that, if its on We the People to come together. We still have no power to lock people up, we're waiting on Q+ to do that.
And if the answer revolves solely around God, and he wins in the end (which I believe), what exactly are we fighting over on this earth?
Agree with this post. Made me remember this drop (apologies for the copy/paste. I don’t know how to post image directly).
1052
Q!xowAT4Z3VQ 04/06/2018 17:05:43 ID: 4faef7 8chan/qresearch: 924224 Anonymous 04/06/2018 17:01:17 ID:8d9ba6 8chan/qresearch: 924151
WWG1WGA
u/#q1052
Type u/ #q<drop number> without any spaces to post the drops like this.
Yup, this is exactly the type of posts I was referencing.
It's good that you raise this point. It really is important.
I guess my view is that an important, and critical part, of the Q operation was to encourage anons (and everyone else who followed the drops, who I would call Q-patriots) and give us morale support, etc, and engender our trust in POTUS and the operation behind him at a critical juncture.
But we are almost 8 years away from that time. So where are we now?
When you child is small, you tell them, "just trust me, I will take care of you. Do what Daddy and Mummy say, and everything will work out."
But then, what if at 18 years of age, you child comes to you and says, "you told me to just trust you and do whatever you say". You'd know you failed as a parent. because your job is to guide and help that child to grow to maturity, to become a self-responsible adult, not simply a child doing whatever Daddy tells them.
During that period: 2017 - 2020 (essentially), it was really important for the awakening movement that people believed that what Q was talking about was actually possible. To have faith. To be willing to engage, think, act.
The point of the article, I think, is that if people remain in a 2017-2020 mindset, like children just following Q, they become increasingly vulnerable to people who infiltrate to exploit and redirect the Awakening movement.
It happened during that period (17-20), many times. But Q would redirect people back on track. But now, we have to be able to do that ourselves. Independent, taking all that we have learned, and then moving ahead.
Trump is in the White House, and many of the key the objectives that Q talked about are well on their way. But, we still have to engage and work. Maybe now its time for all of us to partake in the heavy lifting.
What do I mean? POTUS (and team) has their responsibility, to oversee those things you mentioned. But we also have ours. Our heavy lifting involves: growing mentally, increasing our awakening by becoming independent and critical thinkers, and improving our own situation and environment, aka community, etc.
Different responsibilities, both actually very important to building that new world Q said they would show us. (DJT is showing us directly, right now.)
Thank you!
A primary goal of the Q operation was to prevent patriots from taking things into their own hands, which would ruin the greater plan and help the cabal.
u/#q1052
This is an information war. Tens of thousands of Q-believing patriots fight it every day on social media, forums like this, and by sharing truth in the real world and getting involved locally. Serious anons are not sitting on their hands waiting for military arrests.
So military is the only way means what then, in that context?
It means only true patriots within the US military can be trusted to carry out the PLAN
Capturing intel on the cabal, documenting years-long evidence trails, laying the traps, pulling the political levers, and maintaining secrecy.
All while doing their normal thing to keep us safe at home and abroad.
So there is a plan, and they are doing the heavy lifting. And will this result in arrests or removal/neutralization? And if so, is that not "doing it for us?"
Because ultimately you said
Yet you state that Q is doing all this work and we're just to disseminate it. So I'm having a hard time reconciling what you're saying.
I think its only 'unfortunate' if you view the Q operation in a certain way.
More and more, I think that the Q operation was a good (moral, positive intent) psyop to awaken and mobilize people around the world, to
a) wake up to the reality of how evil has been controlling the world (and us)
b) building the necessary grassroots (groundswell) of support that is necessary and critical for the 'top' - aka POTUS - to carry out the plan.
What Q posted was defined by these objectives. Like certain scriptures, if you take everything (everything!) literally, when it is meant otherwise, you miss the point.
Example: "I have come to cast fire upon the earth! Would that it was already kindled...." Jesus.
Jesus is NOT talking about literal fire, but the fire of truth. So, what's the message? My mission is to liberate the world with the power of truth, but the task is made harder when my people are not awake or sensitive to truth!
Right. But this does not remove the fact that the restoration of America HAS TO BE a joint operation, between the elected President (Trump) and the American people. Neither of them can do this alone.
Taking the drops by Q to mean "you don't have to do anything, we are going to do everything" is a shortcut to failure, imo. So, the question is, HOW do you understand or interpret the drops, including those drops that appear to say one thing, when perhaps the purpose is not literal.
Some people take "you are watching a show" to be completely literal, that every person is an actor, all the people on the bad side have been executed and replaced, and that nothing at all is real. It's all "to wake up the normies".
From my perspective, this is a failed interpretation. So then, what does "you are watching a show mean?". If your interpretation does not mobilize you to greater engagement, responsibility and action as a factor in the information war, then what is that interpretation worth, if the main purpose of the Q operation was to get you to engage, take responsibility, become an active positive element in the information war, and think independently?
Well, if you read my comment, it should be clear that I am saying the answer does NOT solely revolve around God.
"The only thing required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing"
The perspective is this: God created this world, and empowered us with both free will and responsibility as an integral part of the design, because that design, and purpose, is a joint cooperation of God's children with their Father. When we fail, God's will is prolonged. God's will never changes, but how quickly is it accomplished? This depends on how united <we> are with God.
Fail, reject God, and God's purpose for you is delayed. Unite with God, and His will for you is accomplished.
Do you see the point? It's not ONE or THE OTHER. It's not that God does everything and humans do nothing, or God does nothing and humans do everything.
Likewise, what the Q operation is directly implying (by even existing) is that its not EITHER the White Hats will do everything and we do nothing OR we do everything and the white hats do nothing. It was an operation by the White Hats to get us to wake up and realize what we have to do, what OUR responsibility is, for the plan to work.
Imo.