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How many hours have you spent on the range? How many calibers have you fired? Ever shot anything other than a paper target?
Experience tells me it is entirely possible for Charlie to have been shot by a .30
Kek... fren, Ive spent well over 1,000's of hrs in the field harvesting large and small game for over 50 yrs. I've skinned and butchered literal tonnages of meat. And that's not even counting something like range time! I've more familiarity and firearm experience than most I am confident in claiming.
You're replying to the wild man of Appalachia and Latgale fren. This machine provides venison for an entire clan annually for decades now. I stand by my assessments and claims.
Well then you couldn't possibly be wrong, is I guess what you're implying? And my own experience means nothing?
I think you are ignoring the testimony of others who are far more experienced with how bullets react on hitting a human body after glancing off a plate carrier. This is not central to the post though, so no point in arguing.
Far be it for me to question such an experienced huntsman, but you have no idea what round was loaded into that rifle. No pictures of the ammo cartridges have been released or published. Have you ever fired a 110 grain varmint round through a human neck? Everyone is comparing what happened to shooting bucks and the like, but that is baselessly assuming that the round was 150+ grain. Everyone just keeps making assumptions. Shooting a 180 grain round through a target dummy and saying, "See, the human neck can't stop a 30-06 round therefore it wasn't 30-06!" as the YouTubers are doing is deceptive. Varmint rounds are designed to fragment and are much less likely to fully penetrate a target, exactly like the bullet that was recovered from Charlie's neck. Prove to me that varmint rounds can not be stopped by a human neck (you can't), then I will believe you.
While technically correct, I'd say the burden of proof lay in the evidence being provided. Those type of frangible rounds are relatively hard to acquire due to low demand in larger caliber.
Personally, I dont use frangible rounds for small game. It's not practical IMO for hunting. Picking shot out of critters is tedious enough, I would imagine flechette style shrapnel to be even more so.
The only universal practical purpose for frangible rounds seems to be law enforcement and military application in high civilian density urban areas.
There is little evidence to work with, but I would say that the bullet that was recovered from Charlie's neck is evidence, and it does fit. Tyler Robinson's family exposed him to hunting from a young age, and probably engaged in varmint hunting. The Mauser Model 98 was a family heirloom passed down to him from his grandfather. The likelihood of him having access to this ammunition high. 110-grain varmint rounds are readily available and not difficult to acquire. These rounds are produced by major manufacturers such as Federal, Hornady, and Speer, and are sold under popular lines like Federal Varmint & Predator and Hornady V-Max. They are commonly stocked by online retailers, though availability can fluctuate based on demand. While not as ubiquitous as 5.56 NATO or .223 ammo, 110-grain varmint rounds are easily obtainable through both online and brick-and-mortar gun shops, particularly in regions with active hunting communities. While I wouldn't want to use such a round to hunt something like rabbits I see no issue with using it to hunt something like coyotes, which are common in Utah, which allows year-round hunting with no bag limit.