Christopher Hitchens: ”In 1786, when the United States was barely a country, it was having its sailors taken as slaves by the Barbary states, the states of the Ottoman Empire and North Africa. Tripoli, shores of Tripoli. Ships stopped, its crews carried off into slavery. We estimate 1.5 million European and American slaves taken between 1750 and 1815.
Jefferson and Adams went to their ambassador in London and said, why do you do this to us? The United States has never had a quarrel with the Muslim world of any kind. We weren't in the crusades. We weren't at war with Spain. Why do you do this to our people and our ships? Why do you plunder and enslave our people? The ambassador said very plainly, Mr. Abdul Rahman said, because the Quran gives us permission to do so, because you are infidels, and that's our answer. Jefferson said, well, in that case, I will send a navy which will crush your state, which he did.
Islamic fundamentalism is not created by American democracy. It's a lie to say so. It's a masochistic lie, and it excuses those who are the real criminals, and blames us for the attacks made upon us.”
“They really mean to abolish everything you care about, and they want to take away everything you love and destroy everything you have, replacing it with a Stone Age ideology.”
The Europeans paid frequent tributes/ tolls/ negotiated treaties to not be attacked. They saw it as a cost of doing business. Predictably, the Barbary Coast warlords kept increasing the rates at random intervals.
Jefferson had a better way. Then as now, the Europeans benefited from our country's strength and resolve.
It was a bit of a messy affair. For instance, these states were used by certain European powers to harass the opponent, so the opponent would not have sufficient amount of resources to throw at them.
For instance, while Charles V was busy securing the med, the dutch instigated the Turks to harass the Spanish because of the war of independence in 1581. (See also Christianos Y Moros festivities on many Med.cities/tow along the "costas". )
Later the dutch sent Adm. De Ruyter to bombard Algiers, free christian slaves. But the problem remained.
And the problem remains till this day. As said: Islam: submission: is all about slavery. It is the opposite of what we stand for.
Plenty of games played. In some ways, the Barbary Coast pirates simply rotated through countries that played victim and those that paid tribute. Jefferson, with true American spirit, cut through the BS and played for keeps. Which is how Trump rolls too, God bless him.
Yes, and we were done a disservice when Jefferson and House/Senate failed to outright ban Islam from our country for all time. An even greater disservice was done to us by our very own federal govt with the creation of AQ, Taliban, and ISIS/ISIL. A lot of people today think it was Mossad that created those, however that isn't the case. Mossad is a creation of MI-6 and OSS/CIA from the WWII Polish and French Resistance's Nazi hunters. AQ/Taliban is a creation of Poppy Bush's CIA, though his connections to the Saudi Royal Family and close friends the bin Laden Family. IS in its many forms is a creation of [Hussein], No Name, and then SoS [HRC]. Mossad is credited with the creation of Hamas/Hezbollah, but the underlying group they spawned from is the Muslim Brotherhood arm that operated in Iran and Egypt before WWI, which was a creation of MI-6 as a way to organize and keep track of the various militant tribal groups of Persia, Arabia, Turkey, and N. Africa. Hitler then went to those areas and recruited them due to their hatred of a common enemy and their oil rich lands. The Allied Powers then recruited them a second time after the Nazis were beaten back to Europe. Thus, the creation of modern Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and a few years later, Israel.
Mossad isn't the controllers of MI-6 or the American Clowns. It's the other way around, through their shared ancestry of the Fed Reserve and City of London banking cartels. Namely, the Rothschilds and their American proxies, the Rockefellers, Chase Family, Morgan, Schiffs, and Joe Kennedy. This is why Israel and Britain have always been dubbed as America's best allies.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the other militant Islamist groups aren't so much proxies of Iran as they are proxies of the two major Weatern Intel agencies: MI-5/6, and C_A, working in conjunction with their regional proxy, Mossad. It just appears that the former work for the latter due to the high prevalence of Israeli and Islamic dual citizens in both countries. However, it's those dual citizens that often filter "Intel" from the [DS] elements of British and U.S. spy agencies to the elected officials and bureaucrats of both countries to affect policy decisions made by POTUS/SoS and the British PM and Home Sec. It's why those assessments often are at odds with what the white hat elements find after doing proper investigations.
There's also a compounding effect from both Judaism and Islam having doctrines that don't just allow, but actually call for lying, cheating, stealing, raping, pillaging, and murdering of any non-believers while Christianity preaches the opposite. It's made it extremely easy for both Judaism and Islam to openly target the Christian and secular populations while simultaneously gaslighting us with anti-Semitism and Islamophobia meant to guilt trip everyone into compliance and subservience.
What compounds everything even further is that more often than not, the white hat assessments are circular filed, swept under the rug, or buried/"lost" because they have routinely showed that our own govts are responsible for the Islamist attacks. If the public were to ever fully realize and understand just how compromised the Western govts are, and just what they're truly responsible for, so many heads would roll that we'd have to have multiple special elections and hiring rounds to replace them all. This shit goes levels deep worldwide.
But most of it could've been stopped, if not all of it, had both Britain/UK and the U.S. govts just outright banned the practice of Islam in our territories.
Taya @travelingflying on X:
Christopher Hitchens: ”In 1786, when the United States was barely a country, it was having its sailors taken as slaves by the Barbary states, the states of the Ottoman Empire and North Africa. Tripoli, shores of Tripoli. Ships stopped, its crews carried off into slavery. We estimate 1.5 million European and American slaves taken between 1750 and 1815.
Jefferson and Adams went to their ambassador in London and said, why do you do this to us? The United States has never had a quarrel with the Muslim world of any kind. We weren't in the crusades. We weren't at war with Spain. Why do you do this to our people and our ships? Why do you plunder and enslave our people? The ambassador said very plainly, Mr. Abdul Rahman said, because the Quran gives us permission to do so, because you are infidels, and that's our answer. Jefferson said, well, in that case, I will send a navy which will crush your state, which he did.
Islamic fundamentalism is not created by American democracy. It's a lie to say so. It's a masochistic lie, and it excuses those who are the real criminals, and blames us for the attacks made upon us.”
Christopher Hitchens on Islam many years ago:
“They really mean to abolish everything you care about, and they want to take away everything you love and destroy everything you have, replacing it with a Stone Age ideology.”
https://x.com/travelingflying/status/2035139452406731196?s=20
Hitchens saw it all coming, but few were listening:
https://x.com/Burner_BCF/status/2035150548110885336?s=20
And along the western shores of Europe, whole towns were attacked in Spain, Portugal, France, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland and Scotland.
The origin of the phrase "the white slave trade"
US Marines History:
From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli—
Leathernecks
Well there are Marines on the way right now . . .
They took civilian ships and enslaved the passengers too! See Lydia Bailey by Kenneth Roberts.
Thanks for the book suggestion.
OH it is great! Also describes the slaughter of all white people in Haiti.
I'll recommend it to my Friend who has a book club. Give the Ladies a dose of reality, our Schools have edited from real History.
😁
Sadly, the book doesn’t play out like a lame Hallmark Channel movie the gals in the book club will never even consider reading it.
Now the same people killing white people are here in Florida and all over the United States.
The Europeans paid frequent tributes/ tolls/ negotiated treaties to not be attacked. They saw it as a cost of doing business. Predictably, the Barbary Coast warlords kept increasing the rates at random intervals.
Jefferson had a better way. Then as now, the Europeans benefited from our country's strength and resolve.
It was a bit of a messy affair. For instance, these states were used by certain European powers to harass the opponent, so the opponent would not have sufficient amount of resources to throw at them.
For instance, while Charles V was busy securing the med, the dutch instigated the Turks to harass the Spanish because of the war of independence in 1581. (See also Christianos Y Moros festivities on many Med.cities/tow along the "costas". )
Later the dutch sent Adm. De Ruyter to bombard Algiers, free christian slaves. But the problem remained.
And the problem remains till this day. As said: Islam: submission: is all about slavery. It is the opposite of what we stand for.
Plenty of games played. In some ways, the Barbary Coast pirates simply rotated through countries that played victim and those that paid tribute. Jefferson, with true American spirit, cut through the BS and played for keeps. Which is how Trump rolls too, God bless him.
https://youtu.be/lcJhmm3D3OY?si=nsXomsHQXslfq2uO
Good watch. Fat Electrician
Yes, and we were done a disservice when Jefferson and House/Senate failed to outright ban Islam from our country for all time. An even greater disservice was done to us by our very own federal govt with the creation of AQ, Taliban, and ISIS/ISIL. A lot of people today think it was Mossad that created those, however that isn't the case. Mossad is a creation of MI-6 and OSS/CIA from the WWII Polish and French Resistance's Nazi hunters. AQ/Taliban is a creation of Poppy Bush's CIA, though his connections to the Saudi Royal Family and close friends the bin Laden Family. IS in its many forms is a creation of [Hussein], No Name, and then SoS [HRC]. Mossad is credited with the creation of Hamas/Hezbollah, but the underlying group they spawned from is the Muslim Brotherhood arm that operated in Iran and Egypt before WWI, which was a creation of MI-6 as a way to organize and keep track of the various militant tribal groups of Persia, Arabia, Turkey, and N. Africa. Hitler then went to those areas and recruited them due to their hatred of a common enemy and their oil rich lands. The Allied Powers then recruited them a second time after the Nazis were beaten back to Europe. Thus, the creation of modern Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and a few years later, Israel.
Mossad isn't the controllers of MI-6 or the American Clowns. It's the other way around, through their shared ancestry of the Fed Reserve and City of London banking cartels. Namely, the Rothschilds and their American proxies, the Rockefellers, Chase Family, Morgan, Schiffs, and Joe Kennedy. This is why Israel and Britain have always been dubbed as America's best allies.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the other militant Islamist groups aren't so much proxies of Iran as they are proxies of the two major Weatern Intel agencies: MI-5/6, and C_A, working in conjunction with their regional proxy, Mossad. It just appears that the former work for the latter due to the high prevalence of Israeli and Islamic dual citizens in both countries. However, it's those dual citizens that often filter "Intel" from the [DS] elements of British and U.S. spy agencies to the elected officials and bureaucrats of both countries to affect policy decisions made by POTUS/SoS and the British PM and Home Sec. It's why those assessments often are at odds with what the white hat elements find after doing proper investigations.
There's also a compounding effect from both Judaism and Islam having doctrines that don't just allow, but actually call for lying, cheating, stealing, raping, pillaging, and murdering of any non-believers while Christianity preaches the opposite. It's made it extremely easy for both Judaism and Islam to openly target the Christian and secular populations while simultaneously gaslighting us with anti-Semitism and Islamophobia meant to guilt trip everyone into compliance and subservience.
What compounds everything even further is that more often than not, the white hat assessments are circular filed, swept under the rug, or buried/"lost" because they have routinely showed that our own govts are responsible for the Islamist attacks. If the public were to ever fully realize and understand just how compromised the Western govts are, and just what they're truly responsible for, so many heads would roll that we'd have to have multiple special elections and hiring rounds to replace them all. This shit goes levels deep worldwide.
But most of it could've been stopped, if not all of it, had both Britain/UK and the U.S. govts just outright banned the practice of Islam in our territories.
No coincidences Trump is sending the USS Tripoli to end this.