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Islam And The American Experiment (www.americanthinker.com)
posted 38 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 38 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay +34 / -0
Islam And The American Experiment
There is nothing new about America’s conflicts with Islam. That aggressive theocratic system has been at war with America almost since the U.S. was born.
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– SuckaFree 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

FTA (excerpted from Adams's and Jefferson's letter to SecForAffairs John Jay):

"That he verily believed the Devil assisted his Country-men, for they were almost allway’s successfull."

"the Devil"

Aka, Satan, or, in Islamic lore, Shai'tan. Aka, the Enemy.

This, right here, from one of the highest ranking Muslims of that age, is all you need to know that Islam is Satan's plan to conquer the world.

This letter, and the American-Algerian War of 1785-95, and the limited engagement Barbary Wars that came after is why I believe one of the biggest disservices our Founding Fathers committed toward the future of America was to NOT outlaw and ban Islam from our shores and American interests overall. Jefferson himself studied the Qu'ran, Hadiths, and Sirahs in order to better understand this enemy in order to find ways to defeat them. This is one of the things modern Islamists will argue as to why they believe the U.S. is actually already an Islamic Nation. They argue that Jefferson was really a Musselman and that since he was POTUS, that America was effectively conquered and converted at that time, and that America has been an apostatic State ever since and deserves to be punished for it. If you don't believe me, do some research or have a chat with an Imam. They'll tell you.

For all the bravery the Founding Fathers showed in taking on the world's strongest Empire at the time and fighting for American Independence, twice, they showed a lot of cowardice and ineptitude when it came to other issues such as the Islam Question, slavery, etc. The fact that they chose to leave it to future generations to solve this particular issue, when the truth was staring them straight in the face and daring them to challenge Islam directly shows the same amount of cowardice, if not more, than the Peanut Farmer showed in 1979-1980.

The fact they even recognized Islam as an Abrahamic Religion and not a "religiously" false yet actively politically despotic and evil autocracy/theocracy in order to effectively and permanently ban and outlaw it from our homeland and territories is, in my opinion, the single largest blunder they committed in the fledgling years.

The continued refusal to recognize Islam as an existential threat and permanent enemy of the U.S. is the same cowardly blunder that every successive POTUS, Congress, and Senate has committed since 1785, including the current Admin and Legislative Branch. The fact we're even officially recognizing Islamic Terror Orgs as viable governments and continue to fund them is proof.

One simply CANNOT argue with Islam. One simply CANNOT* negotiate with Islam. And one simply CANNOT recognize Islam as 1) an Abrahamic Religion, 2) a viable political entity worth negotiating and dealing with, and 3) a viable way of living life on this planet.

The author of that article is being nice when only limiting Islam's differences with the American Republic to a handful of cherry-picked Amendments.

Islam isn't just anti-thetical to THE WHOLE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND U.S. CODE. Islam is anti-thetical to humanity itself.

Islam deserves to be completely, totally, and permanently wiped off the planet for all time. Point blank, end of discussion.

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– BooniesRedneck 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

If you have time, this book will give you a more in depth look — William J Federer - What Every American Needs to Know about the Qur'an: A History of Islam & the United States. Things my history teacher didn’t teach me.

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

https://thechristianprince.com/EBOOKS/WhatEveryAmericanNeedsToKnowAboutTheQuran.pdf

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– BooniesRedneck 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Oh nice!! I have the paperback copy, but I’ll add this to my pdf collection. Thank you fren :)

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– HenryBowman1984 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

To the shores of Tripoli! And wear your leatherneck coats…

What to Expect: The Effect Of Muslim Population Growth on a Society

https://shoebat.com/2011/07/02/what-to-expect-the-effect-of-muslim-population-growth-on-a-society/

by Shoebat Foundation on July 2, 2011 in General by Michael Haltman, Homeland Security Examiner
June 23, 2010
…original article…
…click here for a related video from our media library…

What happens to society's as the Muslim population grows in percentage of the total?

In the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.

The book as well as the author are controversial, but the topic is definitely something that needs to be explored and understood. From the book:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in: United States — Muslim 0.6% Australia — Muslim 1.5% Canada — Muslim 1.9% China — Muslim 1.8% Italy — Muslim 1.5% Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in: Denmark — Muslim 2% Germany — Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% Spain — Muslim 4% Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in: France — Muslim 8% Philippines — 5% Sweden — Muslim 5% Switzerland — Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in: Guyana — Muslim 10% India — Muslim 13.4% Israel — Muslim 16% Kenya — Muslim 10% Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in: Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8% At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in: Bosnia — Muslim 40% Chad — Muslim 53.1% Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: Albania — Muslim 70% Malaysia — Muslim 60.4% Qatar — Muslim 77.5% Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in: Bangladesh — Muslim 83% Egypt — Muslim 90% Gaza — Muslim 98.7% Indonesia — Muslim 86.1% Iran — Muslim 98% Iraq — Muslim 97% Jordan — Muslim 92% Morocco — Muslim 98.7% Pakistan — Muslim 97% Palestine — Muslim 99% Syria — Muslim 90% Tajikistan — Muslim 90% Turkey — Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in: Afghanistan — Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100% Somalia — Muslim 100% Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons. Map courtesy of PBS. …original article…
…click here for a related video from our media library…

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– mitmont123 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

I’m not reading it. BS words like jizzia, halal haram should never need to be known in the US. Just another way for history to be rewritten when school book publishers cant even get current history right.

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

How could it not be what it is: an Abrahamic religion? There used to actually be rules about who was liable to be enslaved by Christians or Muslims. Heretics such as Orthodox watch out for Catholics. Two apples that didn't fall far from the tree.

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– BooniesRedneck 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Islam is not an Abrahamic religion because Abraham did not worship Allah.

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Abraham didn't worship Jesus either. It's through his son. Allah is their word for god.

"Strict Monotheism: Like the other Abrahamic faiths, Islam is entirely centered on the belief in one, indivisible God (Allah).

The Holy Books: Muslims believe in the divine origins of the Torah and the Gospel. The Quran is considered the final, unaltered revelation given to the Prophet Muhammad, meant to confirm and clarify the messages of earlier scriptures.

The "People of the Book": In Islamic tradition, Jews and Christians are historically referred to as Ahl al-Kitab (People of the Book), acknowledging their shared prophetic heritage and the divine origin of their scriptures."

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– BooniesRedneck 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Abraham worshiped God, the Creator, Jesus is His ONLY begotten Son. Begotten, NOT MADE. We are not the same. Watch and decide for yourself. https://youtu.be/ClxPaXAuOWE?si=B-EUsa4jhvhHmLqS

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Allah is their word for god. I like how you feel have to shout to try to get other people to accept your beliefs. Earth: the special snowflake planet with the one and only son of a fabled Supreme Being.

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– BooniesRedneck 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Actually, I was just pointing out the difference. You’re free to be as ignorant as you choose.

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– UltraMagaOK 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

I rebutted that. To claim Islam is not Abrahamic is moronic. It certainly is so why are you implying I am ignorant?

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– BooniesRedneck 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Just because you replied to a comment doesn’t mean that you’re correct. You don’t believe in God, so you have no understanding of how the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is not the same as Allah. Your entire argument is from the aspect of Islam. As a Christian, I’m telling you that their god is not the same as my God.

If you want to argue that the Arabs are Semitic or that they are Abraham’s children — that’s fine. But they’re not the same religion and are not derived from the same religion. Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, was an Egyptian and did not worship Abraham’s God. Ishmael and Hagar were both sent away from Abraham and Sarah region sometime after Isaac was born. In fact, all of Abraham’s sons were sent from the region that was Isaac’s. They did not worship the same God, they are not Abrahamic religions.

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